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November 27, 2018, 06:44:44 PM
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You forgot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Harris_Simons and by extension, this --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mercer. See one of my most recent posts to get up to speed.

You forgot to add my genius submission to the list, bud.
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I went through many posts and articles about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto and made a list of the suspects,
divided into 1) prime suspects, 2)others, and 3) group/institutions
I know some sound very unlikely but I still mention them because I didn't want to make any prejudgments.
Please let me know about other potential candidates. Happy Birthday Bitcoin!

1)
Adam Back
Charles Bry
David Chaum
Michael Clear
Wei Dai
Hal Finney
Neal J. King
Martti Malmi
Shinichi Mochizuki
John Nash
Tatsuaki Okamoto
Vladimir Oksman
Nick Szabo

2)
Gavin Andresen
Andreas Antonopoulos
Peter Bachman
John Perry Barlow
Doug Barnes
Michel Bauwens
BCNext
Tim Berners-Lee
Jim Bell
Kay Bell
Tamas Blummer
Nicholas Bohm
S. Boxx
Stefan Brands
Eli Brandt
Greg Broiles
Patrick Byrne
Jan Camenisch
Arthur Chandler
Jim Choate
Igor Chudov
Bram Cohen
Nick Collision
Matt Corallo
Geoff Dale
Luke Dashjr
L.Detweiler
Whitfield Diffie
Ray Dillinger
Jamie Dinkelacker
James A. Donald
Dooglus
Barry Downey
Evan Duffield
Vincent Durham
Tony Eng
Dan Fabulich
Niels Ferguson
Paul Ferguson
Amos Fiat
Art Forz
Matthew Franklin
Patri Friedman
Curtis D. Frye
Tony Gallippi
Jeff Garzik
Matthew Gaylor
John Gilmore
David Gordon
James Orlin Grabbe
Ron Gross
Ashish Gulhati
Laszlo Hanyecz
Mike Hearn
Martin Hellman
Michael Hendrix
Eyal Hertzog
Robert A. Hettinga
Eric Hughes
Mike Ingle
David Irvine
Douglas Jackson
Victor K.
Jeff Kane
Mark Karpeles
Sunny King
Steve Klingsporn
Con Kolivas
Dave Krieger
Nick Lambert
Matthew B. Landry
Laurie Law
Charles/Charlie Lee
Vili Lehdonvirta
Hendrik Lenstra
Romana Machado
Michael Marquardt
Yossi Matias
Gregory/Greg Maxwell
Timothy C. May
Jed McCaleb
Stanton McCandlish
James McCarthy
Jim McCoy
Alfred J. Menezes
Perry E. Metzger
Jude Milhon
Max More
David Naccache
Daniel A. Nagy
Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto
Moni Naor
Satoshi Obana
Kazuo Ohta
Donald O'Mahony
Jackson Palmer
Torben Pedersen
Michael Peirce
Jean-Marc Piveteau
Naval Ravikant
Ben Reeves
Ron Rivest
Meni Rosenfeld
Nikolay Rozhok
Gary Rowe
Susan Sabett
Mayank Sahu
Steve Schear
Andreas Schildbach
Nils Schneider
Berry Schoenmakers
Adi Shamir
Carol Shaw
Charlie Shrem
Barry Silbert
Jerry Solinas
Markus Stadler
Bill Stewart
Patrick Strateman
Aaron Swartz
Amir Taaki
Yael Tauman
Hitesh Tewari
Will Thomas
Peter Todd
Zhou Tong
Dustin D. Trammell
Patrick P. Tsang
Ross William Ulbricht
Wladimir J. van der Laan
Thomas Vartanian
Roger Ver
Paul Vernon
Sebastiaan von Solms
Erik Voorhees
Michael Weber
Russell E. Whitaker
Zooko Wilcox-O’Hearn
Peter Wuille
Moti Yung
Phil Zimmerman
Haibin Zhang

3)
Group of above mention persons and/or others
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Samsung/Toshiba/Nakamichi/Motorola


Very good application for service in a detective Agency) But it seems to me that the real knowledge of who is actually the father and Creator of bitcoin has no practical use. On the contrary, the consequences of this investigation will be purely negative, since this person certainly has information that in the hands of fraudsters will be destructive. There is also a threat to personal safety.

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You forgot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Harris_Simons and by extension, this --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mercer. See one of my most recent posts to get up to speed.

You forgot to add my genius submission to the list, bud.

Your original contention-- before I'd even posted--was that James Simons was Satoshi Nakamoto; then you revised that to suggest Nick Szabo is the one who was working for billionaires, Szabo being the actual paid worker bee Satoshi to have created Bitcoin, so to speak.  I don't know if you've edited out your older post about Simons actually being Satoshi Nakamoto.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628344.60


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…I go back to Szabo’s pal, Wei Dai. Wei, I say, the other night you said you were sure Nick Szabo wasn’t Satoshi. What made you sure? Two reasons, he replies. One: in Satoshi’s early emails to me he was apparently unaware of Nick Szabo’s ideas and talks about how bitcoin expands on your ideas into a complete working system and it achieves nearly all the goals you set out to solve in your b-money paper. I can’t see why, if Nick was Satoshi, he would say things like that to me in private. And, two: Nick isn’t known for being a C++ programmer.
https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/2008-nakamoto

Sounds definitive in the negative to me.

Again, Nick Szabo follows James Bowery on twitter and vice versa.  That might change (in case someone wants to get screenshots now).

I've read only about 500 Bitcoins have ever been spent by Satoshi.  This is an Eric Hoffer-like "true believer" stoic mindset, the more so

because some of those spends were when the value of BTC was much less.


I have seen James in his home drink out of glass food jars, a somewhat common and self-comforting retro trait of many midwesterners and

southerners.


Someone in the other thread makes the point-- without citing the date...I looked it up-- that in December 2017, James A. Donald made a post

about witnessing certain things in Cuba.  Donald cites no date.  Now, if you look up the price of BTC then, it was pretty startling and changing.

Maybe it was a period in which the heat was building.  It could be Donald was inventing a false clue, or maybe Donald had recently visited Cuba

as an American tourist and talked with old timers

there.  A 64 year old man (maybe 63 in 2017) would have been too young to have been in the sugar cutting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venceremos_Brigade of 1969 and really, too old in 2017, when the brigade was begun again.  


James A. Donald consistently avoided leaving or dropping any clues as to his real identity, though he made an exception in December

2017, for whatever reason.  My take is he made it up.  In communications to Martti Malmi, he seems obsessed with security.
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November 27, 2018, 08:50:56 PM
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You forgot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Harris_Simons and by extension, this --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mercer. See one of my most recent posts to get up to speed.

You forgot to add my genius submission to the list, bud.

Your original contention-- before I'd even posted--was that James Simons was Satoshi Nakamoto; then you revised that to suggest Nick Szabo is the one who was working for billionaires, Szabo being the actual paid worker bee Satoshi to have created Bitcoin, so to speak.  I don't know if you've edited your older post about Simons being Satoshi out or not.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628344.60


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…I go back to Szabo’s pal, Wei Dai. Wei, I say, the other night you said you were sure Nick Szabo wasn’t Satoshi. What made you sure? Two reasons, he replies. One: in Satoshi’s early emails to me he was apparently unaware of Nick Szabo’s ideas and talks about how bitcoin expands on your ideas into a complete working system and it achieves nearly all the goals you set out to solve in your b-money paper. I can’t see why, if Nick was Satoshi, he would say things like that to me in private. And, two: Nick isn’t known for being a C++ programmer.
https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/2008-nakamoto

Sounds definitive in the negative to me.

Again, Nick Szabo follows James Bowery on twitter and vice versa.  That might change (in case someone wants to get screenshots now).

I've read only about 500 Bitcoins have ever been spent by Satoshi.  This is an Eric Hoffer-like "true believer" stoic mindset, the more so

because some of those spends were when the value of BTC was much less.


I have seen James in his home drink out of glass food jars, a somewhat common and self-comforting retro trait of many midwesterners and

southerners.


Someone in the other thread makes the point-- without citing the date...I looked it up-- that in December 2017, James A. Donald made a post

about witnessing certain things in Cuba.  Donald cites no date.  Now, if you look up the price of BTC then, it was pretty startling and changing.

Maybe it was a period in which the heat was building.  It could be Donald was inventing a false clue, or maybe Donald had recently visited Cuba

as an American tourist and talked with old timers

there.  A 64 year old man (maybe 63 in 2017) would have been too young to have been in the sugar cutting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venceremos_Brigade of 1969 and really, too old in 2017, when the brigade was begun again.  


James A. Donald consistently avoided leaving or dropping any clues as to his real identity, though he made an exception in December

2017, for whatever reason.  My take is he made it up.  In communications to Martti Malmi, he seems obsessed with security.

FYI: James A. Donald once owned jim.com. Ref: https://web.archive.org/web/20180308073337/http://echeque.com/
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FYI: James A. Donald once owned jim.com. Ref: https://web.archive.org/web/20180308073337/http://echeque.com/

Yes, that's precisely what I had already posted in the other thread in which we are discussing this, except, in the most technical sense,

a re-direct from echeque to jim.com does not perfectly prove James A. Donald owned either or both.  He probably set the redirect though,

sure.  I certainly believe he did/does own both, as I've already said in the other thread.  But I don't have an allwhois screenshot, as it is all

masked.


Also, as I mentioned before, jim.com was registered in February of 1995.  Early.  James A. Donald goes by both Jim and James, as does

Bowery.  This is of course no big deal re men with this name-- just another clue.

As it can and has been easily proven Bowery is a massively skilled C++ programmer with a long, intense interest going back to roughly the

mid-1990s in peer-to-peer file sharing, e-currencies, cryptography, gold (I believe he was a regular poster or reader on the goldismoney

board but haven't researched that .. he did in fact post a lot on Majority Rights).  


Seeing as how these are his known interests and skills, why

do you think he appears nowhere on Cypherpunks-- under his real name, Jim Bowery or James Bowery-- which I have found?  He was missing

in action?  A mere passive "interested reader"? Too dull? Too much a scientific nobody?  (Bowery has testified to Congress about the need for

scientific education).  

https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/users/319662/james-bowery

Too disinterested? Too reticent?  Or maybe just too present but with anonymous patina?  Which stands to reason?

James Bowery in Iowa just under 3 years ago speaking for Rand Paul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w39dpwSYsbw

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=james+bowery

Jim Bowery blog:
http://jimbowery.blogspot.com/?view=flipcard

Scroll 4:32 -- Nick Szabo (whose Bitgold work is strangely uncredited in Nakamoto's white paper) asks if "anyone wants to help me code one up?".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iSZIf4xVq0&feature=youtu.be

On December 27th, 2008 Szabo wrote, “Bit Gold would greatly benefit from a demonstration, an experimental market (with e.g. a trusted third party substituted for the complex security that would be needed for a real system). Anybody want to help me code one up?”

One week later on January 3rd, 2009, Satoshi released the code for Bitcoin, with Bit Gold as the inspiration.

(Clearly, Satoshi didn't code it up in a week.  So Szabo's request is stagy in the extreme.  The two would have been in concert for some months.)
https://coincentral.com/who-is-nick-szabo/


Bowery and Szabo follow each other on twitter.  Go see and get screenshots.

Could Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto of CA, a two-block away neighbor of Hal Finney (an easy address search on the net in 2008/9)  have been used as a patsy by JB, or a cabal of JB, Szabo and maybe even-- but not necessarily, Hal Finney himself?  Of the three, Bowery is by far the most skilled C++ coder.  

 ===========================

"The Book Of Satoshi" bundles old mailing-lists discussions with Satoshi Nakamoto. Upon reading through the pages, I noticed this sentence:

"The design [of Bitcoin] supports a tremendous variety of possible transaction types I DESIGNED YEARS AGO: escrow transactions, bonded contracts, third party arbitration, multi-party signature, etc."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/288a6n/another_pointer_to_nick_szabo/
Unrelated but interesting Hal Finney archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09975.html

(The Satoshi Nakamoto phrase  "I designed years ago: escrow transactions, bonded contracts, third party arbitration, multi-party signature, etc" ... if you google it, it is all over, even in a Washington Post piece.  It's a genuine Satoshi quote.

Now read Crypto Kong below. -doublespend timestamp)
============================

https://cryptome.org/jya/crypto-kong.htm

15 January 1998 (EDIT NOTE: "Years ago" Satoshi quote.  Additionally, here is the Crypto Kong software.  Experienced C++ coders
can compare it to Satoshi's coding style.  But it's the current antifa year; few will even read long posts like this on V-Bulletin.
http://echeque.com/Kong/
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:49:52 -0800 (PST)
To: Filtered Cypherpunks List <cypherpunks@toad.com>
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
Subject: Crypto Kong penetration.

(EDIT NOTE: Remember, James A. Donald was the first to reply to Satoshi Nakamoto's Jan. 3, 2009. -doublespend timestamp)


    -- 2
Since release there have been a very large number of hits on
the Kong documents, and mere 102 downloads of the program,
and 74 downloads of the source code.

The large number of source code downloads indicates that I am
only reaching the crypto techie audience, that for the most
part is already able to use PGP, not the non tech audience
that Crypto Kong was designed for.

On my web page I have documentation as to how business users
can and should use this product.
(See the section "contracts
and certificates"
<http://www.jim.com/jamesd/Kong>

I and Mather Cromer have prepared a release document targeted
at business users  (See below)

Does anyone have any suggestion of how to get the message in
front of the target audience?

 (press release oriented towards businessmen follows:


    --
   Announcing Crypto Kong.

    Free digital signatures and encryption.


    <http://www.jim.com/jamesd/Kong/Kong.htm>.

    Many businessmen use a faxed signature for a contract, or for
    authority to act, or worse still, a shared password, as
    stockbrokers often do.  This is almost worthless.

    The signature on a fax can be, and often is, a mere bitmap,
    not genuinely scanned in from a signature written in ink on a
    paper document, but merely applied digitally to an image in
    computer memory.  If that bitmap was also applied to some
    other document sent to the same company, which it usually
    was, then the fax proves nothing.

    On the other hand, often one cannot wait for FedEx to deliver
    signed documents.
  The answer is digital signatures and
    encryption.
With digitally-signed electronic documents, you
    can send unforgeable signed documents instantaneously across
    the globe.

    Crypto Kong is easy to use and it uses the same identity
    model that as businesses today use for ordinary handwritten
    signatures,  unlike other products which impose their own
    different way of handling identity.

    Crypto Kong takes away the hassles of certificate management,
    public key authentication, and complicated operating
    instructions.  Anyone can immediately use it to sign
    documents, to compare signatures  or to encrypt sensitive
    messages.
Kong compares the signatures on documents, rather
    than comparing a signature against certificates.

    Crypto Kong software makes it easy to send or receive
    digitally signed documents or use top grade encryption to
    keep messages private.

    Crypto Kong provides support for contracts and the
    documentation that accompanies transactions.


    The Crypto Kong application and detailed documentation
    information is available as a free download from the Kong
    home page:

    Kong is compatible only with Windows 95 and Windows NT.
    Complete source code is also available for download from the
    home page.

    --digsig
         James A. Donald
     6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG
     SgQ8pgY/MeQpI9CfGR5kSsRdW61mSVYtqHkEMoMU
     47jSLQPPmYxhaKH9MyohUU9Q9i3bzVWjwey/s3Od4


    --digsig
         James A. Donald
     6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG
     gME+6HSq3N3G1iw88pJyVqcNc8dlMZhS2f+zUijA
     4IpLFuTI1zY7tEU4+gDAFM6uhgcWP9IyA/3guXt7j    
     4WRob8mo+81LCLSyU4RiPNOilXHZTlyvZzsFMr+9d




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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of
the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this right,
not from the arbitrary power of the state.

http://www.jim.com/jamesd/

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JAN 9 (2009)

Quine's Simplification of Structural Realism
After reviewing Stanford's web page on Ontic Structural Realism, it is becoming more urgent that I try persuade scholars in this area to take more seriously Quine's monumental feat of clearing away semantic underbrush with his description of relata as syntactic sugars for relations.

Quine had the beginnings of a revolution in philosophy by relying on identity-as-substitutivity which, as it turns out, is adequate to describe all of mathematics using nothing but the predicate calculus:

“Chief among the omitted frills is the name. This again is a mere convenience and is strictly redundant, for the following reasons. Think of ‘a’ as a name, and think of ‘F(a)’ as any sentence containing it. But clearly ‘F(a)’ is equivalent to ‘(∃x)( a = x & F(x))’. We see from this that ‘a’ need never occur except in the context ‘a =’. But we can as well render ‘a =’ always as a simple predicate ‘A’, thus abandoning the name ‘a’. ‘F(a)’ gives way thus to ‘(∃x)(A(x) & F(x))’, where the predicate ‘A’ is true solely of the object ‘a’.

“It may be objected that this paraphrase deprives us of an assurance of uniqueness that the name has afforded. It is understood that the name applies to only one object, whereas the predicate ‘A’ supposes no such condition. However, we lose nothing by this, since we can always stipulate by further sentences, when we wish, that ‘A’ is true of one and only one thing:


(∃x)A(x) & ~ (∃x,y)(A(x) & A(y) & ~(x=y) )”


“(This identity sign “=” here would either count as one of the simple predicates of the language or be paraphrased in terms of them.)”



I really think a lot more progress in science, mathematics and philosophy would occur if scholars of "structure" would state their arguments in Quine's syntax.
Posted 9th January 2009 by Jim Bowery
http://jimbowery.blogspot.com/2009/01/quines-simplification-of-structural.html?view=flipcard
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We don't know.  We don't need to.

I have a business card which I like to think might be Satoshi's.  It reads, "This card intentionally left blank."  I could upload a picture of it if you're interested.

FWIW, speaking as someone whose name is on your list of candidates, I regard this fixation on Satoshi's identity as being a little dangerous.  There are people who might do awful things to other people if they think that by doing so they might get their hands on Satoshi's coins.  Many of them read this forum.

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Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto residing just two blocks from Hal Finney meets highly unlikely odds.  Yet his name (Satoshi Nakamoto) was pre-picked.

In 2008 and still today, Japanese engineering in the popular mind has great respect.  Perhaps in coding, not as much so, but even if that

circumstance holds, it is not in the popular mind.  So the coder snatched Finney's neighbor's name.  Clever, with the mysterious Orient element.

Nick Szabo had conceived many or most elements of it, without solving the doublespend issue...nad maybe some other vital 'unsolves'.

He advertised for a coder to come forward, and one did.  Szabo, from accounts, either doesn't code C++ particularly well or at all.

Szabo's initials-- 'NS' would be how a Japanese would write his name...this has been oft mentioned, i.e. 'Nakamoto Satoshi', 'NS'-- another cute

wrinkle..  


Then Satoshi glaringly leaves Nick's seminal work out in his treatise crediting bibliography.


Is the 'real' Satoshi Nick Szabo or his coder? (Wozniak to Jobs?).  After all, the coder made it happen and perfected it.  Neither one seems to have

done it for much money-- not billions, anyway.  A lot, but not billions maybe.  Unless their coins and the private key is extant.


If it is true, as someone claiming to be Satoshi emailed to Martti Malmi, that he (Satoshi) no longer had the private key-- if Satoshi has destroyed

it and all copies in a fit of dyspeptic passion, as it were, from reasonable loathing of persecution by govt or abject fear from kidnapping, theft,

harm to himself or even temptation to flood the market, and maybe inadvertently outing himself--  well, Satoshi would have retained plausible

deniability, at least in his own private considerations of what possibilities might

happen in future.

 
Under the historic circumstances, that is thin veneer.  Could Gutenberg have remained anonymous?


During the time Hal Finney was expiring from Lou Gehrig's Disease, his family requested donations of Bitcoin to help pay his medical

expenses.  One could claim that as a ruse so that his family would not be hassled or in danger after his passing, but it seems a stretch to me.

Szabo surely has very many coins, as would anyone who mined them at 50 per ten minutes (for the blocks they won) in 2009.  I think Szabo and

JAB likely snagged Nakamoto's name and address from public records.  Finney might have helped in that regard, but not so majorly otherwise.


As the very definition of Bitcoin is early peer to peer privacy (quite faulty but a portentous start) Szabo and his coder won't be fessin' up.  Why

would they?  They, as most of us, are true believers.  They want to upheave the system and have succeeded.  

When the total market was $800 billion and BTC was around 55% of it, they'd created  almost three times the wealth of Bezos' $155 billion, while

retaining, in Szabo's case, relative anonymity and in JAB the coder's case (if indeed he be) near total  anonymity except from maybe a very few

who knew him and might put it together.  But who would believe anyone without hard proof in the Fake News Idiocracy?  Almost no one at best.


By spending frugally they allay suspicions.

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Comment #72:
http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-bitcoin-buycott/

James Bowery says: • Website
January 21, 2018 at 10:53 pm GMT
• 100 Words
The proof of work required for bitcoin is amenable to mass production of specialized “mining” hardware. This is the kind of thing that governments and other large institutions can manufacture as a military armament.

A better proof of work would require CPU computation and substantial RAM — which means people can use their personal computers to compete with the bureaucracies.

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SAN FRANCISCO
Satoshi Nakamoto Is On The Move, November 2nd, 2018:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TvF_cCH6lc


Chris R
2 weeks ago (edited)
i think you need to check the figures the current banking systems consumes about thousands of times more power than bitcoin does right now the usa uses more on christmas lights

Happiness Deciphered
3 weeks ago
Oh noes , Millions of Bitcoins floods the market , and get bought up INSTANTLY. THANKS.

====================

VIDEO- Chinese junking crypto-mining gear because no money to be made at current prices:
https://twitter.com/DoveyWan/status/1064878600594305025

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079536.0

100,000+ BTC moved into segwit addresses
December 03, 2018, 05:16:33 PM
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A very interesting set of transactions happened just a couple of days ago. Someone has moved chunks of 25,000 coins into bech32 addresses. What's really weird is that he has moved it into an huge list of different addresses:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e4aaf711863d194cd8bdc04733e71b6a3296b788b5e7cd345dce17afde426841

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8184cb85c93c073b83505856a88a87a2041480cb7410cc3cadaf59a9f8a417b

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/a024efae4a970da9353a0e2a20381f4c567654f7052b86b5db6e69216a33ab77

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/fc24c43f5f9593ba12bc35a43b46c8ce51732e03e669c9e3ae099aed4d3024fb

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/ad11701c33aecf82c092a7182909ce16b63d4574f1569459e27e97d22cd5e29b

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/257b4a8848541996857043e6d2f6319edddf5abde2776f4b49bb9e773cc4414c

He wants to increase his privacy by splitting them into different addresses? Anyhow, it could be said that whales trust segwit, or at least some whales do.
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December 06, 2018, 05:01:11 PM
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Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto residing just two blocks from Hal Finney meets highly unlikely odds.  Yet his name (Satoshi Nakamoto) was pre-picked.

In 2008 and still today, Japanese engineering in the popular mind has great respect.  Perhaps in coding, not as much so, but even if that

circumstance holds, it is not in the popular mind.  So the coder snatched Finney's neighbor's name.  Clever, with the mysterious Orient element.

Nick Szabo had conceived many or most elements of it, without solving the doublespend issue...nad maybe some other vital 'unsolves'.

He advertised for a coder to come forward, and one did.  Szabo, from accounts, either doesn't code C++ particularly well or at all.

Szabo's initials-- 'NS' would be how a Japanese would write his name...this has been oft mentioned, i.e. 'Nakamoto Satoshi', 'NS'-- another cute

wrinkle..  


Then Satoshi glaringly leaves Nick's seminal work out in his treatise crediting bibliography.


Is the 'real' Satoshi Nick Szabo or his coder? (Wozniak to Jobs?).  After all, the coder made it happen and perfected it.  Neither one seems to have

done it for much money-- not billions, anyway.  A lot, but not billions maybe.  Unless their coins and the private key is extant.


If it is true, as someone claiming to be Satoshi emailed to Martti Malmi, that he (Satoshi) no longer had the private key-- if Satoshi has destroyed

it and all copies in a fit of dyspeptic passion, as it were, from reasonable loathing of persecution by govt or abject fear from kidnapping, theft,

harm to himself or even temptation to flood the market, and maybe inadvertently outing himself--  well, Satoshi would have retained plausible

deniability, at least in his own private considerations of what possibilities might

happen in future.

 
Under the historic circumstances, that is thin veneer.  Could Gutenberg have remained anonymous?


During the time Hal Finney was expiring from Lou Gehrig's Disease, his family requested donations of Bitcoin to help pay his medical

expenses.  One could claim that as a ruse so that his family would not be hassled or in danger after his passing, but it seems a stretch to me.

Szabo surely has very many coins, as would anyone who mined them at 50 per ten minutes (for the blocks they won) in 2009.  I think Szabo and

JAB likely snagged Nakamoto's name and address from public records.  Finney might have helped in that regard, but not so majorly otherwise.


As the very definition of Bitcoin is early peer to peer privacy (quite faulty but a portentous start) Szabo and his coder won't be fessin' up.  Why

would they?  They, as most of us, are true believers.  They want to upheave the system and have succeeded.  

When the total market was $800 billion and BTC was around 55% of it, they'd created  almost three times the wealth of Bezos' $155 billion, while

retaining, in Szabo's case, relative anonymity and in JAB the coder's case (if indeed he be) near total  anonymity except from maybe a very few

who knew him and might put it together.  But who would believe anyone without hard proof in the Fake News Idiocracy?  Almost no one at best.


By spending frugally they allay suspicions.

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Comment #72:
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James Bowery says: • Website
January 21, 2018 at 10:53 pm GMT
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The proof of work required for bitcoin is amenable to mass production of specialized “mining” hardware. This is the kind of thing that governments and other large institutions can manufacture as a military armament.

A better proof of work would require CPU computation and substantial RAM — which means people can use their personal computers to compete with the bureaucracies.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TvF_cCH6lc


Chris R
2 weeks ago (edited)
i think you need to check the figures the current banking systems consumes about thousands of times more power than bitcoin does right now the usa uses more on christmas lights

Happiness Deciphered
3 weeks ago
Oh noes , Millions of Bitcoins floods the market , and get bought up INSTANTLY. THANKS.

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VIDEO- Chinese junking crypto-mining gear because no money to be made at current prices:
https://twitter.com/DoveyWan/status/1064878600594305025

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100,000+ BTC moved into segwit addresses
December 03, 2018, 05:16:33 PM
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A very interesting set of transactions happened just a couple of days ago. Someone has moved chunks of 25,000 coins into bech32 addresses. What's really weird is that he has moved it into an huge list of different addresses:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e4aaf711863d194cd8bdc04733e71b6a3296b788b5e7cd345dce17afde426841

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8184cb85c93c073b83505856a88a87a2041480cb7410cc3cadaf59a9f8a417b

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/a024efae4a970da9353a0e2a20381f4c567654f7052b86b5db6e69216a33ab77

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/fc24c43f5f9593ba12bc35a43b46c8ce51732e03e669c9e3ae099aed4d3024fb

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/ad11701c33aecf82c092a7182909ce16b63d4574f1569459e27e97d22cd5e29b

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/257b4a8848541996857043e6d2f6319edddf5abde2776f4b49bb9e773cc4414c

He wants to increase his privacy by splitting them into different addresses? Anyhow, it could be said that whales trust segwit, or at least some whales do.

Re the last links, I'd say that them coins belong to Bitfinex cuz I can easily connect them addys to https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/39coweGgC8CPZ6hYL1BBEfc1zqbSfHsprW as Burt comments about below (see OP of thread quoted) ... (took me less than two minutes, then found said thread)

https://blockchain.info/address/39coweGgC8CPZ6hYL1BBEfc1zqbSfHsprW

I was having some fun exploring the blockchain for weird looking addresses and apparently this is the biggest address ever, and has tons of small micro transactions incoming. What are those transactionsa about? Is this some sort of mining related address??

According to this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/36v29t/bitfinex_hack2252015_1459_bitcoins_lost/

It is a bitfinex cold wallet.
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