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January 06, 2015, 01:12:04 AM
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No I didn't want my trust rating only. I wanted the slander gone. You were still calling me a liar, without backing. And saI'd it would have been negative but I bitched.

So it wasn't any better. People clicking on my trust would still read that.

But what ever helps you sleep at night buddu.

Next time answer the phone rather than have your wife answer.
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January 06, 2015, 01:14:03 AM
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Next time answer the phone rather than have your wife answer.

Stop lying - you don't have my phone number.   Roll Eyes


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January 06, 2015, 01:23:17 AM
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Just what I found for your docs out of St.  Albert.

But who knows, you could be lieing about being canadian
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January 06, 2015, 01:32:06 AM
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Just what I found for your docs out of St.  Albert.

But who knows, you could be lieing about being canadian

Stop lying and saying they are my docs.  My docs are private and not available online.

You are very gullible, aren't you?

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January 06, 2015, 01:32:39 AM
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No I didn't want my trust rating only. I wanted the slander gone. You were still calling me a liar, without backing. And saI'd it would have been negative but I bitched.

So it wasn't any better. People clicking on my trust would still read that.

But what ever helps you sleep at night buddu.

Next time answer the phone rather than have your wife answer.
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   Spreads FUD - calls me a liar, and a fool. I've caught him in lies at least 3 separate times now. I tried to be the nice guy and remove negative feedback, he retaliated by opening three threads on me and spamming me with PMs. THEN he added negative trust against me.

Before you consider doing any business with this fool, consider he is hot headed and acts without thought. Add to the fact he has no problem lying, and come to the conclusion he should not be dealt with.
If you want to break it down, line by line:
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   Spreads FUD - calls me a liar, and a fool.
This is true. You have called him (among other things) a liar multiple times.
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I've caught him in lies at least 3 separate times now.
I haven't seen the specific lies, however they appear to be in reference to you calling Vod names trying to bash him. Overall a true statement.
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I tried to be the nice guy and remove negative feedback,
True. He did remove his trust report after he saw an explanation regarding the original zip code issue. By that time he had received several PMs and there were several threads opened about the issue. He left neutral feedback with his opinion on the situation. I do not remember exactly what it said, however I remember thinking it was generally accurate
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he retaliated by opening three threads on me and spamming me with PMs.
as mentioned above, true
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THEN he added negative trust against me.
Vod has a negative rating now, from you
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Before you consider doing any business with this fool, consider he is hot headed and acts without thought. Add to the fact he has no problem lying, and come to the conclusion he should not be dealt with.
this is an opinion and by definition opinions cannot be a lie/slander
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January 06, 2015, 01:46:24 AM
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The people on default trust are expected to have a certain level of maturity and professionalize themselves for being in a position of "power". That's how they get themselves on the default trust list most of the time which is why issues are kept at a minimum. Of course there will be disputes because of of different views of opinions but again, it's not often that this happens. Usually, things can be worked out just by sending a PM to the person that left the rating. I find that more times than not if it's truly a case of false trust, it'll get handled.

I'm not taking into consideration the trust left by others not on default trust. Surely false feedback from throw away accounts gets frustrating, but they won't ruin someones reputation usually.
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January 06, 2015, 02:02:25 AM
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The people on default trust are expected to have a certain level of maturity and professionalize themselves for being in a position of "power". That's how they get themselves on the default trust list most of the time which is why issues are kept at a minimum. Of course there will be disputes because of of different views of opinions but again, it's not often that this happens. Usually, things can be worked out just by sending a PM to the person that left the rating. I find that more times than not if it's truly a case of false trust, it'll get handled.

I'm not taking into consideration the trust left by others not on default trust. Surely false feedback from throw away accounts gets frustrating, but they won't ruin someones reputation usually.

Thank you
This isn't a nobody,  this effects me in the eyes.of a lot.of people.
this thread was started to question who put that list together. As clearly it's a joke.
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January 06, 2015, 02:43:27 AM
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The people on default trust are expected to have a certain level of maturity and professionalize themselves for being in a position of "power". That's how they get themselves on the default trust list most of the time which is why issues are kept at a minimum.  

I think that's the plan and it would/does work well but when a few people on there have huge trust lists and they add everyone who has left them feedback it really dilutes the quality of the list and opens it up massively to issues and abuse. If you don't reasonably trust someone and aren't willing to partially stake your rep on the line in doing so you really shouldn't add someone to your trusted list.

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January 06, 2015, 03:10:21 AM
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Thank you
This isn't a nobody,  this effects me in the eyes.of a lot.of people.
this thread was started to question who put that list together. As clearly it's a joke.

I understand. There are some faults.

Hilariousandco said it well.

I think that's the plan and it would/does work well but when a few people on there have huge trust lists and they add everyone who has left them feedback it really dilutes the quality of the list and opens it up massively to issues and abuse. If you don't reasonably trust someone and aren't willing to partially stake your rep on the line in doing so you really shouldn't add someone to your trusted list.

The root cause of trust abuse is when too many people are added to the default trust list. This leads to irresponsible trust ratings and abuse. Perhaps checks and balances isn't the solution, but more of a cap of who is on the default trust list.

In your situation takagari, I think Vod had intentions of removing it, (can't be for sure on this) but the trust left on his account seems to have steered him away from doing so. Perhaps your solution here is to start with a clean pallet and mutually agree to remove the ratings off each other or at least have Vod put the trust rating to neutral upon the removal of your trust to him.
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January 06, 2015, 04:48:07 AM
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The people on default trust are expected to have a certain level of maturity and professionalize themselves for being in a position of "power". That's how they get themselves on the default trust list most of the time which is why issues are kept at a minimum. Of course there will be disputes because of of different views of opinions but again, it's not often that this happens. Usually, things can be worked out just by sending a PM to the person that left the rating. I find that more times than not if it's truly a case of false trust, it'll get handled.

I'm not taking into consideration the trust left by others not on default trust. Surely false feedback from throw away accounts gets frustrating, but they won't ruin someones reputation usually.
I love how magically none of these restrictions apply to VOD.
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January 06, 2015, 04:53:25 AM
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The people on default trust are expected to have a certain level of maturity and professionalize themselves for being in a position of "power". That's how they get themselves on the default trust list most of the time which is why issues are kept at a minimum. Of course there will be disputes because of of different views of opinions but again, it's not often that this happens. Usually, things can be worked out just by sending a PM to the person that left the rating. I find that more times than not if it's truly a case of false trust, it'll get handled.

I'm not taking into consideration the trust left by others not on default trust. Surely false feedback from throw away accounts gets frustrating, but they won't ruin someones reputation usually.
I love how magically none of these restrictions apply to VOD.

And I love how you magically think that is true.

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