Using Intel CPU and Motherboard ? Your Bitcoins may be in actual danger.

[jbrnt]

I didn't finish reading everything. Can I say I am safe if I use an Intel CPU, non-Intel motherboard and a non-Intel network card? I do not think Intel is after my bitcoin, only hackers are.

[Prelude]

I didn't finish reading everything. Can I say I am safe if I use an Intel CPU, non-Intel motherboard and a non-Intel network card? I do not think Intel is after my bitcoin, only hackers are.

Your non Intel branded motherboard is using an Intel chipset, unless it's a dinosaur.

[ShadowOfHarbringer]

This is all just fantasy. Until someone actually does it, I won't believe it.

Too late. Look at the AMT Wikipedia article from the OP, it's been demonstrated about 2011 I think (although the specific flaw that team discovered was patched in more recent chipsets).

Yep, AMT was already hacked once, but Intel quickly patched the hole.

But since we have no way of knowing what resides in that special, hidden, encrypted, DRMed software in Intel's AMT, anything could be in there. And you can be sure that NSA will put their nasty fingers in it sooner or later (if it hasn't already).

Intel has just created grounds for domination of permanently NSA-FBI-CIA-rootkited hardware on the market (since most M/B chips are Intel's anyway). And their backdoor is extremely sophiscticated, there is nothing else close to it on the consumer & server market.

Intel cannot be trusted anymore.

[Lauda]

So what is your suggestion then? Should i build my own CPU from my own transistors and mine the silicon myself? 

[ShadowOfHarbringer]

So what is your suggestion then? Should i build my own CPU from my own transistors and mine the silicon myself?  

I don't know what you should do, but I am surely stopping buying anything from Intel.

Too bad I already bought 2 intel motherboards lately. Well, it would be a big waste of money and time to sell them and buy new ones, so i will be installing non-intel network cards on these while leaving the built-ins unused - that will at least protect me from remote hack.

Still, i need to be careful when downloading *.exe files from internet, because any of them could be a rootkit. Lucky for me, I don't use Windows too much (maybe just for selected games), so that is not a big problem.

[criptix]

For remote access, a cooperating network interface is required: Intel ethernet adapters, Intel WiFi adapters, and certain 3G modems are supported. If you can, replace Intel-made network interfaces with ones made by a different manufacturer, that do not support AMT.

Apparently for the remote control to work, you also need to have Intel network card, so not using any Intel network hardware should keep you safe from remote attack.

do you know the reason why it has to be an pci intel network card?
most motherboards are already coming with onboard lan, shouldnt that be the same?

[Prelude]

For remote access, a cooperating network interface is required: Intel ethernet adapters, Intel WiFi adapters, and certain 3G modems are supported. If you can, replace Intel-made network interfaces with ones made by a different manufacturer, that do not support AMT.

Apparently for the remote control to work, you also need to have Intel network card, so not using any Intel network hardware should keep you safe from remote attack.

do you know the reason why it has to be an pci intel network card?
most motherboards are already coming with onboard lan, shouldnt that be the same?

High end motherboards usually come equipped with Intel NICs since they're the best, performance wise. If it isn't Intel you're fine I imagine.

Wish I wouldn't have upgraded to X99.

[siameze]

So what is your suggestion then? Should i build my own CPU from my own transistors and mine the silicon myself? 

Probably. You may have difficulties sourcing silicon from outside of the reach of the US and NSA. I'm sure they have already hidden exploits in domestic silicon.

[bitspill]

So what is your suggestion then? Should i build my own CPU from my own transistors and mine the silicon myself? 

Probably. You may have difficulties sourcing silicon from outside of the reach of the US and NSA. I'm sure they have already hidden exploits in domestic silicon.

They said they were going to mine the silicon themselves, how does the gov't have hidden exploits in a metal? Maybe it's in the gold/silver used in cabling also

[Balthazar]

http://cubieboard.org/2015/01/04/cubieboard4cc-a80-in-factory/

[Lauda]

So what is your suggestion then? Should i build my own CPU from my own transistors and mine the silicon myself?  

I don't know what you should do, but I am surely stopping buying anything from Intel.
Too bad I already bought 2 intel motherboards lately. Well, it would be a big waste of money and time to sell them and buy new ones, so i will be installing non-intel network cards on these while leaving the built-ins unused - that will at least protect me from remote hack.

Still, i need to be careful when downloading *.exe files from internet, because any of them could be a rootkit. Lucky for me, I don't use Windows too much (maybe just for selected games), so that is not a big problem.

What do you mean by Intel motherboards? Motherboards that have Intel sockets?

So what is your suggestion then? Should i build my own CPU from my own transistors and mine the silicon myself? 

Probably. You may have difficulties sourcing silicon from outside of the reach of the US and NSA. I'm sure they have already hidden exploits in domestic silicon.

They said they were going to mine the silicon themselves, how does the gov't have hidden exploits in a metal? Maybe it's in the gold/silver used in cabling also

Maybe the whole planet was infected by malware on a molecular level. There was probably some discovery on how to manipulate molecules, but kept quiet.
I will have to source my silicon off of the planet.

[Christian1998]

What do you mean by Intel motherboards? Motherboards that have Intel sockets?

I think he means mainboard which were produced by Intel and for example not by Asus, Asrock or any other.

Sorry for my bad english
Best regards
Christian

[siameze]

So what is your suggestion then? Should i build my own CPU from my own transistors and mine the silicon myself? 

Probably. You may have difficulties sourcing silicon from outside of the reach of the US and NSA. I'm sure they have already hidden exploits in domestic silicon.

They said they were going to mine the silicon themselves, how does the gov't have hidden exploits in a metal? Maybe it's in the gold/silver used in cabling also

Maybe the whole planet was infected by malware on a molecular level. There was probably some discovery on how to manipulate molecules, but kept quiet.
I will have to source my silicon off of the planet.

See? Now LaudaM may be our only hope. They have even fooled the citizenry into believing it is impossible to manipulate objects on a molecular level.

[elliwilli]

Damn thats spooky.
I should be safe though. i use a Atheros Ethernet card so im safe (ish)

[Lethn]

<<< smug AMD user

[rikfredsy]

Waaaw this is really interest information i heard 2015 . i didn't think that technology is so so developped like this

Intel core 2 duo E6750 is this safe for old CPU like mine ? or almost intel CPU > 2005 NOT safe ?

[BillyBobZorton]

So Intel = Skynet?

[rikfredsy]

So Intel = Skynet?

High system for spying on everyone but this is not a danger if someone is normal theirs nothing to hide

[ALToids]

I feel much safer buyer CPUs from Russia so Putin can steal my BTC:

http://www.futurelooks.com/russian-government-says-america-fine-well-make-cpu-arm-linux/

[ShadowOfHarbringer]

So Intel = Skynet?

Intel = NSANet

Waaaw this is really interest information i heard 2015 . i didn't think that technology is so so developped like this
Intel core 2 duo E6750 is this safe for old CPU like mine ? or almost intel CPU > 2005 NOT safe ?

Intel CPUs/MBs older than 2011 are probably completely safe.

However, the worst part is - we cannot actually be sure. Intel has hard-wired code in all motherboards supporting their CPUs and nobody knows what the code is or what it does. It is completely encypted and has strong DRM.

This is not the work of an honest company. This is an obviously evil plot.