How Arizona is Keeping the World Free!

[BADecker]

Arizona is a gun State. The people can have guns.

The people of Arizona, or all who enter Arizona, have the right to open carry throughout the State. This means that anybody and everybody can wear a pistol right out in the open, in a belt holster, in a shoulder holster, or any holstered way he wants. Rifles or shotguns can be carried over the shoulder using standard carrying straps... right out in the open.

Anybody in Arizona has the right to have a concealed gun without a permit. If you are in Arizona visiting from somewhere else in the world, you can conceal an armed and loaded gun on your person - under your shirt, in your pant's pocket, etc. - without needing a permit.

Very few, if any, governments in modern, populated places in the world allow the public of their country, state or province to do this. In fact, most (if not all) of the other States in the United States require a permit for concealed carry. If you know of a region or area in the world, that allows Arizona style gun freedom, please post which region that is.

There are some places in Africa where guns are allow, even though the areas are populous. Mostly it's because the people are so poor that they can't afford guns. So there haven't really been any strict gun laws enacted, or the particular government isn't strong enough to enforce any gun laws. Other than that, the only gun freedom areas of the world are places where there is almost no population at all. If you know of areas that are free to open or conceal carry no permit, please list them.

Governments are notorious in their attempts to disarm their own citizens. To see this, simply look at Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, Pol Pot in Cambodia, Ho Chi Minh in Viet Nam, Mao Tse-tung in China, and other dictators around the world, including how common people in the United States often "execute" their unarmed, unborn babies. People without guns are essentially slaves of those that do have guns.

Nowadays people all over the world are being limited by their governments with regard to the kinds of guns, how many, and how and when they can carry them. Personally, I think that if the populations of the world had no guns, the U.N. and the individual governments of the world would step in and make the people into formal slaves, slaves under as harsh treatment or worse as those in Northwestern Africa.

Now, how does Arizona with its gun freedom keep the whole world free?
Here's how.

Governments of the world are attempting to take the guns away from all their own citizens. They want to do it to enslave their citizens. But they can't. And the reason that they can't is Arizona gun freedom. If the governments of the world made slaves of their gun-less populations, Arizona would see, the whole U.S. would see, and the whole world would see.

What would the world see? They would see that the bearing of arms, the carrying of guns, and even the threat of gun-carry by the populace is where the freedom is. Arizona and the world that still had guns would NEVER give up their guns once they saw this. The anti-gun drive of the governments of the world would fail miserably, and they know it. As long as Arizona has gun freedom, the governments don't dare to push too hard, lest they lose it all. Arizona is keeping the world free.

Arizona is free because the Arizona government knows that the population of Arizona would take the government down in a minute if the government tried to make slaves of the people of Arizona. How would the gun-toting population of Arizona take their own government down if their government tried to make slaves of them? They would do it with their guns.

However, if you go to Arizona with the idea that you are going to be free to use your guns in ways that harm or damage other people, you will find out that Arizona gun laws are extremely strict against people using their guns for criminal activity. Guns save lives, in every way, if done correctly.

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[Chef Ramsay]

Open carrying is allowed in NH and I did quite a bit of it when I lived there, never did the police hassle me nor did a member of the public call them on me nor anyone I knew. Concealed carry is $10 w/ a sheet of minor personal info and is mailed to you w/i 10 business days. Alaska and Vermont have liberal guns laws too. The former is one of the reasons NH was picked as the home of the Free State Project- https://freestateproject.org/.

[username18333]

If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

[TheButterZone]

As much as I want to move there, because I prefer heat to cold and liberty to the criminals utopia of CA, you can't "Constitutional Carry" guns in all of Arizona (let's say 'all'=in public, not counting unsecure government facilities and pro-criminal safety businesses). The Federal Gun-Free School Zone Act enabled the Giffords massacre, because it was held right across the street from a school where you needed a bribery permit to legally carry and not commit a federal felony. The gun carrier who ran to the scene, if he didn't have a permit (IDR if he did), could have been convicted (and maybe still can) , because there is no exigency exception to the Act.

If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

Nukes are fired by people, and unlawful orders (democide) can be mutinied against.

[Elwar]

If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

This.

The response to the 2nd Amendment was demonstrated during something called the "Civil War" (aka the war of northern aggression).

[BADecker]

As much as I want to move there, because I prefer heat to cold and liberty to the criminals utopia of CA, you can't "Constitutional Carry" guns in all of Arizona (let's say 'all'=in public, not counting unsecure government facilities and pro-criminal safety businesses). The Federal Gun-Free School Zone Act enabled the Giffords massacre, because it was held right across the street from a school where you needed a bribery permit to legally carry and not commit a federal felony. The gun carrier who ran to the scene, if he didn't have a permit (IDR if he did), could have been convicted (and maybe still can) , because there is no exigency exception to the Act.

If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

Nukes are fired by people, and unlawful orders (democide) can be mutinied against.

That's right. You can't constitutional carry. And you don't need to. Why not? The Constitution was written for government people to follow.

The Constitution is a corporate agreement in the form of a trust (as all corporations are). Did you sign up to be under that corporation? If you did, make sure by looking up the paperwork that has your signature on it, and then follow its rules. If you can't find the paperwork with your signature on it that shows that you joined, then you didn't join, and it isn't for you. It is for government people who have taken the Oath of Office, or have succumbed to employment by government.

When you carry, you carry as a man or woman. You don't constitutional carry. Their laws don't include you. None of them do except if you harm someone, damage his property, or contract with them, and then only with regard to the contract.

Just because we are a bunch of stupid idiots who think that the President is a king, and that his executive orders apply to us, doesn't mean that they do... except if we BELIEVE that they do.

Take a look at the info in the links listed at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916456.msg10079836#msg10079836, and see that government rights don't apply to you except if you are in government, or except if you want them to. Otherwise, you have the right to do ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING as long as you don't hurt someone, damage his property, or break a contract that you explicitly signed.

[BADecker]

If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

People push the buttons that launch the nukes. Such people can die from bullets if they become a threat.

[BADecker]

Open carrying is allowed in NH and I did quite a bit of it when I lived there, never did the police hassle me nor did a member of the public call them on me nor anyone I knew. Concealed carry is $10 w/ a sheet of minor personal info and is mailed to you w/i 10 business days. Alaska and Vermont have liberal guns laws too. The former is one of the reasons NH was picked as the home of the Free State Project- https://freestateproject.org/.

The people behind Freedom's Phoenix are friends with many of the folks in the Free State Project. In addition, the Freedom's Phoenix website - https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/ - has, at different times, all kinds of news info about freedom all over the place.

[TheButterZone]

As much as I want to move there, because I prefer heat to cold and liberty to the criminals utopia of CA, you can't "Constitutional Carry" guns in all of Arizona (let's say 'all'=in public, not counting unsecure government facilities and pro-criminal safety businesses). The Federal Gun-Free School Zone Act enabled the Giffords massacre, because it was held right across the street from a school where you needed a bribery permit to legally carry and not commit a federal felony. The gun carrier who ran to the scene, if he didn't have a permit (IDR if he did), could have been convicted (and maybe still can) , because there is no exigency exception to the Act.

If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

Nukes are fired by people, and unlawful orders (democide) can be mutinied against.

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Let's put it another way then: You can't carry guns (without a legit fear of being killed or thrown in a rape cage) in all of Arizona because the right to self-defense codified by the Constitution is still infringed there by government unconstrained by its own law.

[koshgel]

Guns don't kill people. Guns help protect you from other people with smaller guns

But seriously, open carry is okay to an extent. I don't need to see people carrying high powered rifles down the street like there's a war going on in our backyard.

[BADecker]

As much as I want to move there, because I prefer heat to cold and liberty to the criminals utopia of CA, you can't "Constitutional Carry" guns in all of Arizona (let's say 'all'=in public, not counting unsecure government facilities and pro-criminal safety businesses). The Federal Gun-Free School Zone Act enabled the Giffords massacre, because it was held right across the street from a school where you needed a bribery permit to legally carry and not commit a federal felony. The gun carrier who ran to the scene, if he didn't have a permit (IDR if he did), could have been convicted (and maybe still can) , because there is no exigency exception to the Act.

If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

Nukes are fired by people, and unlawful orders (democide) can be mutinied against.

<snip>

Let's put it another way then: You can't carry guns (without a legit fear of being killed or thrown in a rape cage) in all of Arizona because the right to self-defense codified by the Constitution is still infringed there by government unconstrained by its own law.

Good points. And I want to thank you for bringing them up. So, listen carefully, all of you who read this, to what I say here. These words have far bigger impact than they seem when you simply look at them.

The legalization of carry and concealed carry without a permit required, is a step in the direction of change back to the way it should be. That is, the right to carry freely... along with freedom in general.

All over America and the world, police agencies are using police brutality to kill people. Do you see that little "<snip>" thing that you did above^^? The words in that "<snip>" have links to the things everybody can do about it if they will only take the time to do them. Of course, you can't do them if police simply gun you down in the street, dead. But if they don't, and/or especially if you have friends that understand what's in the links, and especially if you set things up correctly, the bondsmen will pay, if the bad cop doesn't. And when a bondsman pays, except in rare cases, the cop is off the job.

We have let things get so extremely bad, we have become so extremely ignorant about the basic law, that there are going to be some rough and tough times before we can take the country back to the freedom that it was at its start. Obviously, as shown by your words, we don't want you getting in our way. Just sit back and watch men and women do it. Then, after we finish re-setting freedom, you can come out of your shell and live free.

Subjection of anyone in America to codification of any law, is subject first to personal acceptance of the codification, by every person who falls under the codification. In other words, laws in America, and especially codification thereof, do not apply anyone, until each person individually accepts the application of the law or code to himself. It's in foundational Constitutional law.

Some government people codify some law. How does that law or codification apply to you or me except that we accept that it applies to us? It doesn't. And again, the links in the "<snip>" above, take us to places that show how the highest law of the land can be used to make codification people fall in line when they try to apply the code to you without cause, and without your acceptance. It shows how you can make them pay if they trample on your rights without cause or without your acceptance of what they are doing.

It is starting. Freedom is coming back. Are you scared of freedom? Sounds like you are. Not on the outside, perhaps. But down underneath. Take a look at this little clip from the movie Easy Rider, with Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper, to see the place where you are probably at - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc11mJGre10.

[TheButterZone]

I snip when you don't reply in kind.

You say that cops are rarely "off the job" (as in fired, never again rehirable to a position where he/she can violate rights under color of law or authority). They aren't. They almost never "pay" for their rights violations; THE TAXPAYERS, their victims, DO. Neither do prosecutors, who send us to rape cages for merely being able to defend ourselves, drive some people like Aaron Swartz to choose liberty or death. Neither does anyone else in government truly "pay" for their crimes against humanity, with infinitesimally few exceptions of the government prosecuting itself.

I cannot afford to move to Arizona and support myself.

Guns don't kill people. Guns help protect you from other people with smaller guns

But seriously, open carry is okay to an extent. I don't need to see people carrying high powered rifles down the street like there's a war going on in our backyard.

"High powered rifles" is Newspeak pro-criminal safety bullshit. Try again.

[BADecker]

I snip when you don't reply in kind.

You say that cops are rarely "off the job" (as in fired, never again rehirable to a position where he/she can violate rights under color of law or authority). They aren't. They almost never "pay" for their rights violations; THE TAXPAYERS, their victims, DO. Neither do prosecutors, who send us to rape cages for merely being able to defend ourselves, drive some people like Aaron Swartz to choose liberty or death. Neither does anyone else in government truly "pay" for their crimes against humanity, with infinitesimally few exceptions of the government prosecuting itself.

I cannot afford to move to Arizona and support myself.

You don't need to move to Arizona. The people in the links are from all over the U.S. Some are from Canada or the U.K.

Arizona is simply moving ahead in certain ways that might be ahead of most of the other States.

[username18333]

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If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

Nukes are fired by people, and unlawful orders (democide) can be mutinied against.

Are you planning on freediving down to the Trident subs with a torpedo between your legs like a deep sea Dr. Strangelove‽

[TheButterZone]

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If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

Nukes are fired by people, and unlawful orders (democide) can be mutinied against.

Are you planning on freediving down to the Trident subs with a torpedo between your legs like a deep sea Dr. Strangelove‽

Already 155 people on each of them who could mutiny against orders to nuke their own blood.

[username18333]

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If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

Nukes are fired by people, and unlawful orders (democide) can be mutinied against.

Are you planning on freediving down to the Trident subs with a torpedo between your legs like a deep sea Dr. Strangelove‽

Already 155 people on each of them who could mutiny against orders to nuke their own blood.

How would they know who they’re actually attacking?  

[BADecker]

. . .

If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

Nukes are fired by people, and unlawful orders (democide) can be mutinied against.

Are you planning on freediving down to the Trident subs with a torpedo between your legs like a deep sea Dr. Strangelove‽

Already 155 people on each of them who could mutiny against orders to nuke their own blood.

How would they know who they’re actually attacking?  

Their ancestors are from all different countries.   

[TheButterZone]

. . .

If your gun doesn’t trump a nuclear warhead, it’s irrelevant.

Nukes are fired by people, and unlawful orders (democide) can be mutinied against.

Are you planning on freediving down to the Trident subs with a torpedo between your legs like a deep sea Dr. Strangelove‽

Already 155 people on each of them who could mutiny against orders to nuke their own blood.

How would they know who they’re actually attacking?  

You think an American, et al crew would just blindly fire a nuke, without realizing the targeting coordinates in the order they authenticated are their own soil? It would be the stuff of fiction or conspiracy to think their computers would be hacked to make them think they were nuking somewhere else in the world (and even then, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SehIzNDA5pA )

[username18333]

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How would they know who they’re actually attacking?  

You think an American [permitted to man a Trident submarine], et al crew would [not] just [follow orders and] blindly fire a nuke, [having] realiz[ed] the targeting coordinates in the order they authenticated are their own [now enemy] soil? It would be the stuff of fiction or conspiracy to think their computers would be ["]hacked["] [by any other than the American "intelligence community"] to make them think they were nuking somewhere else in the world (and even then, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SehIzNDA5pA )

I'm fairly sure he or she would fire on "domestic [withheld] threats."

[BADecker]

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How would they know who they’re actually attacking?  

You think an American [permitted to man a Trident submarine], et al crew would [not] just [follow orders and] blindly fire a nuke, [having] realiz[ed] the targeting coordinates in the order they authenticated are their own [now enemy] soil? It would be the stuff of fiction or conspiracy to think their computers would be hacked to make them think they were nuking somewhere else in the world (and even then, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SehIzNDA5pA )

I'm fairly sure he or she would fire on "domestic [withheld] threats."

This is the reason why the Power Elite need to move their base of operations to other countries. I mean their technology producing and maintaining base. The U.S. still produces too much of the technology and hardware that they use. If some other country had the ability to support the technology and manufacture of military machines the same way the U.S. does, the Power Elite would cause us to be nuked in a moment. As it is now, they would be cutting off their own supply lines.

Watch for nuking of Phoenix, Arizona. Phoenix doesn't really supply anything that can't be supplied elsewhere in the U.S.  Even the Apache helicopters could be assembled elsewhere. If they nuked Phoenix, not only would they get some test results, they would also remove the strength of the most gun-free State in America. So, they would benefit all around.



EDIT: And, they would have the benefit of an excuse for martial law around the whole nation... kinda like a big 9/11.