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January 08, 2015, 01:02:52 PM
Last edit: January 09, 2015, 04:39:17 PM by Hamuki
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Hey Bitcointalk.

There is a lot of Escrows on this site, sadly they arent available all the time.
I wont be either, but I want to offer an escrow service too with no fee for normal private sales.

No deals over 0.30 BTC. Thats all I have for compensation if something goes wrong.

Prices.

Normal Private sales: 0, nothing.
Group Buys: 1%
IPOs: 1%

I will deal with anyone who approaches me.
If any disputes should happen between the buyer and seller.
The money will stay in my wallet till I have spoken to other Escrows and figured out what to do, or if the dispute is no longer between the two parts.

Numbers of deals Escrowed till this point: 0

My timezone: GMT+1
Location: Denmark

If you have any questions then you are more than welcome to ask.

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January 08, 2015, 03:20:37 PM
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Escrows are meant to be trusted and have lots of previous trades. You only have a couple. I'd lock this thread if I was you and try again when you're established as a trustworthy trader.
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January 08, 2015, 03:47:49 PM
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Escrows are meant to be trusted and have lots of previous trades. You only have a couple. I'd lock this thread if I was you and try again when you're established as a trustworthy trader.

I have been here on the forum for a long time, and I have made plenty of transactions with people here.
They have told me that they have added +Trust to my account, I cant see any other than the one I have at the moment..

My account is established..

I guess you have made a new account or something.. Because I wasnt expecting a message like that from a newbie (Your rank, not an insult)

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January 08, 2015, 04:09:16 PM
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Escrows are meant to be trusted and have lots of previous trades. You only have a couple. I'd lock this thread if I was you and try again when you're established as a trustworthy trader.
Trust is supposed to be earned , thats how most of the escrows got there.  But usually escrows have history of large fund deals before, they start escrowing funds
 

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January 08, 2015, 04:12:39 PM
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You've got 1 trusted feedback from redsnow's escrow and two other untrusted feedbacks. It's common sense that an escrow should be a reputable and well trusted member and being here a long time isn't really relevant without trades or reputation. People buy Senior accounts all the time and if you've been around a long time you should know the general requirements to become an escrow. Lots of previous trades and evidence of such is the bare minimum otherwise why trust you?.

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January 08, 2015, 04:13:39 PM
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Escrows are meant to be trusted and have lots of previous trades. You only have a couple. I'd lock this thread if I was you and try again when you're established as a trustworthy trader.

I have been here on the forum for a long time, and I have made plenty of transactions with people here.
They have told me that they have added +Trust to my account, I cant see any other than the one I have at the moment..

My account is established..

I guess you have made a new account or something.. Because I wasnt expecting a message like that from a newbie (Your rank, not an insult)

LOL Dont wank his chain Hamuki, You do only have 3 ratings as your trust score.
You might consider yourself 'established' like I do despite only being a few months older than you but frankly no one will trust a guy to be the ESCROW with such low ratings (either me or you).


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January 08, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
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No one is forced to use me as an escrow.
People can choose who they want.

If you dont trust me, then dont.

I dont care what you think, I just want to help out where I can.

Have a good evening.

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January 08, 2015, 06:15:01 PM
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No one is forced to use me as an escrow.
People can choose who they want.

If you dont trust me, then dont.

I dont care what you think, I just want to help out where I can.

Have a good evening.

KUDOS for not blasting out at me like a noob.

This place is full of trolls, the first time I tried to do a business here while being new I got listed as a potential scammer by Mr Tomato (later he revoked the status) and then this other weird guy who Neg'd on my trust score just cuz HE THOUGHT I was a scammer.

It was a hard battle to gain back some rep and I did. So just a suggestion : Dont even post something, even if it makes sense, unless you can back it up with proof that would be widely acceptable by this community. Cuz even if IS a good idea, people will ruin your profile JUST cuz they can.


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January 08, 2015, 06:27:30 PM
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No one is forced to use me as an escrow.
People can choose who they want.

If you dont trust me, then dont.

I dont care what you think, I just want to help out where I can.

Have a good evening.

KUDOS for not blasting out at me like a noob.

This place is full of trolls, the first time I tried to do a business here while being new I got listed as a potential scammer by Mr Tomato (later he revoked the status) and then this other weird guy who Neg'd on my trust score just cuz HE THOUGHT I was a scammer.

It was a hard battle to gain back some rep and I did. So just a suggestion : Dont even post something, even if it makes sense, unless you can back it up with proof that would be widely acceptable by this community. Cuz even if IS a good idea, people will ruin your profile JUST cuz they can.

Well said I was expecting that some one will give him a negative trust, because he is not a established member having no trade history and going to start a escrow service.  Grin

Good luck

Thanks

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January 09, 2015, 08:30:39 AM
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No one is forced to use me as an escrow.
People can choose who they want.

If you dont trust me, then dont.

I dont care what you think, I just want to help out where I can.

Have a good evening.

KUDOS for not blasting out at me like a noob.

This place is full of trolls, the first time I tried to do a business here while being new I got listed as a potential scammer by Mr Tomato (later he revoked the status) and then this other weird guy who Neg'd on my trust score just cuz HE THOUGHT I was a scammer.

It was a hard battle to gain back some rep and I did. So just a suggestion : Dont even post something, even if it makes sense, unless you can back it up with proof that would be widely acceptable by this community. Cuz even if IS a good idea, people will ruin your profile JUST cuz they can.

There is no reason to throw down others.
Its unprofessional and rude.

Calling someone a noob is rather childish.
And before someone gets butthurt because they search through my postal history, yes at some point I have called someone a noob.

Its nice to see that there is still decent people on here.

And giving neg rep without proof is sad to see.
Unless its extremely obvoius then I dont see reason for it.

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January 09, 2015, 08:32:51 AM
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No one is forced to use me as an escrow.
People can choose who they want.

If you dont trust me, then dont.

I dont care what you think, I just want to help out where I can.

Have a good evening.

KUDOS for not blasting out at me like a noob.

This place is full of trolls, the first time I tried to do a business here while being new I got listed as a potential scammer by Mr Tomato (later he revoked the status) and then this other weird guy who Neg'd on my trust score just cuz HE THOUGHT I was a scammer.

It was a hard battle to gain back some rep and I did. So just a suggestion : Dont even post something, even if it makes sense, unless you can back it up with proof that would be widely acceptable by this community. Cuz even if IS a good idea, people will ruin your profile JUST cuz they can.

Well said I was expecting that some one will give him a negative trust, because he is not a established member having no trade history and going to start a escrow service.  Grin

Good luck

Thanks

People can neg rep me.. But I will report them and keep on following them and make sure that it will be removed again.
There is no reason for it since I havent been involved with any scams or shady activity.

Now, lets get away from this kind of talk.

People can write if they need a free escrow im available from now and just about 24/7 this weekend.

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Escrow needs to be trusted and green positive trust is a minimum entry requirement. You can offer your service, but I don't think anyone will be interested.

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January 09, 2015, 09:05:38 AM
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KUDOS for not blasting out at me like a noob.

There is no reason to throw down others.
Its unprofessional and rude.

Calling someone a noob is rather childish.
And before someone gets butthurt because they search through my postal history, yes at some point I have called someone a noob.

Its nice to see that there is still decent people on here.

And giving neg rep without proof is sad to see.
Unless its extremely obvoius then I dont see reason for it.

Dude, I didnt call you noob lol I congratulated you for not lashing out like one.

Trolls dont need reason to troll around. Trust me on that.


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January 09, 2015, 09:09:09 AM
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I suggest you build up your reputation and get more positive trust ratings. I'm pretty sure you'll be able to do more business this way

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January 09, 2015, 09:28:41 AM
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I have made plenty of transactions with people here.

My account is established..

A bit of an overestimation for yourself here. 2 documented transaction is not considered plenty, and one of which was through escrow so there was no chance to scam on that one.

You have good intentions, but just because you're willing doesn't mean you're qualified. And the fact that you said you'll run to other escrows to ask what to do when there's a dispute, means you shouldn't be one in the first place.

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January 09, 2015, 09:56:56 AM
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You should not be offering to escrow a transaction that you are not able to cover if something goes wrong. Do you have any proof of funds to reimburse your customers in case there is a mistake on your end?
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January 09, 2015, 09:57:27 AM
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Have to say give the guy a chance. He's not forcing anyone to use him, just offering. People can research and decide themselves whether they think he's the best guy for the job or not.

No one's going to get anywhere without trying and it's a bit sad to see everyone putting someone down who's trying

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January 09, 2015, 10:00:47 AM
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Have to say give the guy a chance. He's not forcing anyone to use him, just offering. People can research and decide themselves whether they think he's the best guy for the job or not.

No one's going to get anywhere without trying and it's a bit sad to see everyone putting someone down who's trying

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January 09, 2015, 10:09:54 AM
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Have to say give the guy a chance. He's not forcing anyone to use him, just offering. People can research and decide themselves whether they think he's the best guy for the job or not.

No one's going to get anywhere without trying and it's a bit sad to see everyone putting someone down who's trying
Just say use him as escrow at you own risk. All reputation start from zero

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January 09, 2015, 11:19:20 AM
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Have to say give the guy a chance. He's not forcing anyone to use him, just offering. People can research and decide themselves whether they think he's the best guy for the job or not.

No one's going to get anywhere without trying and it's a bit sad to see everyone putting someone down who's trying

This is bad logic. That's like saying give a brand new account a shot at trading paypal funds for BTC, or taking a large no-collateral loan. Sure you can take the huge risk, but generally it should be flagged before it happens. Same thing applies here; his account is older, but his reputation is new.

Now don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying he's a scammer, just that there's a higher possibility of him running off. If everyone had the the same attitude of "give the guy a chance", there would have been many more successful scammers.

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January 09, 2015, 12:09:24 PM
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im not against this because all trusted escrow now is untrusted too at first, but unfortunately people here would prefer using the trusted ones... goodluck with your service mate..  Wink
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January 09, 2015, 12:25:33 PM
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There is no reason for it since I havent been involved with any scams or shady activity.

Now, lets get away from this kind of talk.

People can write if they need a free escrow im available from now and just about 24/7 this weekend.

Offering escrow with no good reason to usually seems pretty shady. Don't take it personally as all new escrows are scrutinised here and so they should be. You're offering to hold on to others money for free and this can easily be taken advantage of. People use escrows because they're trusted to be able to hold funds. Currently you are not so it defeats the purpose and makes others skeptical of you regardless of your intentions.
 
im not against this because all trusted escrow now is untrusted too at first, but unfortunately people here would prefer using the trusted ones... goodluck with your service mate..  Wink

But how did they become trusted? You have to build up that trust before you even start.

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January 09, 2015, 12:40:41 PM
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But how did they become trusted? You have to build up that trust before you even start.

i know that but at the very first even theymos have neutral trust here right? hope you get my point..  Wink

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January 09, 2015, 01:02:38 PM
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But how did they become trusted? You have to build up that trust before you even start.

i know that but at the very first even theymos have neutral trust here right? hope you get my point..  Wink

have a good night Smiley

Yes, but theymos and everyone else earned that trust over time. They didn't just turn up and say 'give me your money'.

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January 09, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
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Okay, read all your replies.

I have 0.30 BTC atm in my wallet if something goes wrong, so I will not escrow deals that are over 0.30 BTC.


I have done a lot of deals here. Almost none of them have been repped on so yea, it does not count Smiley

So no deals over 0.30 BTC.

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January 09, 2015, 07:05:20 PM
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Okay, read all your replies.

I have 0.30 BTC atm in my wallet if something goes wrong, so I will not escrow deals that are over 0.30 BTC.


I have done a lot of deals here. Almost none of them have been repped on so yea, it does not count Smiley

So no deals over 0.30 BTC.

You missed the point entirely.

Bro spend some time here, trade and do other stuff make friends, get a hooker, beat up a scammer that didnt pay someone back. Build the trust let people know you first forget escrow lol.


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even I cant get people to use me as escrow let alone you.

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January 10, 2015, 02:01:19 AM
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even I cant get people to use me as escrow let alone you.

Why does everyone want to be an escrow anyways?
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January 10, 2015, 02:56:50 AM
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even I cant get people to use me as escrow let alone you.

Why does everyone want to be an escrow anyways?

maybe because of the tip?  Cheesy
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January 10, 2015, 05:33:20 AM
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even I cant get people to use me as escrow let alone you.

Why does everyone want to be an escrow anyways?

Exactly. This is a valid question everyone should ask. I don't think we need more random escrows but more very trusted ones never hurt. Though I'm sure many people who offer escrow services like this have nothing but good intentions there's also likely a bigger percent who do it with the intent to scam at some point because what better way to get ahold of large amounts of other people's money relatively easy?

maybe because of the tip?  Cheesy

You really don't get much in tips for this type of service and if you're doing it for that you're getting into the wrong business and for the wrong reasons.

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January 10, 2015, 07:46:39 AM
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even I cant get people to use me as escrow let alone you.

Why does everyone want to be an escrow anyways?

That is just my example.

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January 10, 2015, 08:14:32 AM
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even I cant get people to use me as escrow let alone you.

Why does everyone want to be an escrow anyways?

Right? I was asked to escrow a few times, declined it because it takes too much communication, patience, and formality. Although I wouldn't mind doing it for some people. Just not newbs, because they tend to be flakes, which I've experienced many times.




I have 0.30 BTC atm in my wallet if something goes wrong...

This isn't relevant. Escrow is done from trust, not how much you have in your wallet to cover as insurance. If you did your job correctly, then you shouldn't be liable.

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even I cant get people to use me as escrow let alone you.

Why does everyone want to be an escrow anyways?

Right? I was asked to escrow a few times, declined it because it takes too much communication, patience, and formality. Although I wouldn't mind doing it for some people. Just not newbs, because they tend to be flakes, which I've experienced many times.

Same as me. I don't mind escrowing occasional deals or money for sig campaigns but don't really have an interest in being a regular escrow currently as it is far too time consuming and looks to be a largely thankless task. I bet more often than not people will be too cheap to send a tip or even say thanks and the latter is what would bother me the most.

I have 0.30 BTC atm in my wallet if something goes wrong...

This isn't relevant. Escrow is done from trust, not how much you have in your wallet to cover as insurance. If you did your job correctly, then you shouldn't be liable.

Inexperienced escrows are also more likely to fuck up but if they do they will likely be liable for returning the funds. You may have 0.3 in your wallet but is that an amount you would be ok with losing if something goes wrong? These are all things you should be taking into consideration.

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January 10, 2015, 12:22:45 PM
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even I cant get people to use me as escrow let alone you.

Why does everyone want to be an escrow anyways?

Right? I was asked to escrow a few times, declined it because it takes too much communication, patience, and formality. Although I wouldn't mind doing it for some people. Just not newbs, because they tend to be flakes, which I've experienced many times.

Same as me. I don't mind escrowing occasional deals or money for sig campaigns but don't really have an interest in being a regular escrow currently as it is far too time consuming and looks to be a largely thankless task. I bet more often than not people will be too cheap to send a tip or even say thanks and the latter is what would bother me the most.

I have 0.30 BTC atm in my wallet if something goes wrong...

This isn't relevant. Escrow is done from trust, not how much you have in your wallet to cover as insurance. If you did your job correctly, then you shouldn't be liable.

Inexperienced escrows are also more likely to fuck up but if they do they will likely be liable for returning the funds. You may have 0.3 in your wallet but is that an amount you would be ok with losing if something goes wrong? These are all things you should be taking into consideration.

I agree, escrowing isn't as easy as it seems. You need to be professional and focussed, and know a lot of rules.

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