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RitzBitzz
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May 19, 2015, 12:07:25 AM
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@smalltimer

you have points but you're not considering demand,
which is half the supply+demand  equation... which
affects price now...

...and you're not considering the increasing transaction
volume which will decrease the fee size later.

cheers.  Kiss



transaction volumes are too low - half of it is fake and me sending coins to exchanges and back or playing satoshi dice.

Demand is the problem: demand will not grow because it can't hold its value
that's the gist of my point actually


-> If it would hold value better and favour miners less the demand would be higher and the hash maybe a little lower, so the price would be rising (and ultimately with it the hash too)

Raw hash is expense and doesn't provide any value in itself. What provides value is a fine balance between investors and miners which bitcoin has been unable to strike.

Price will come down and hash too until an equilibrium between miners and investors is reached (supply/demand equilibrium). So the inflation it has now does not provide any additional security, it just makes sure the coin doesn't take off.

The theory of the inflation being necessary to secure the network is total bogus.
What secures the network is a sustainable high price and high demand whilest inflation should be minimal. After all you want to get money into the system not out of the system.

What do you mean by "fake" transactions how can a transaction be faked?
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May 19, 2015, 12:11:58 AM
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 For bitcoin to have aids mehh Its just in state of loom or frozen in loom from Fringe and has every virus going. For someone saying BTC vs ebola Well as some don't know Ebola was man made and U.S. Government patented the Ebola virus back in 2009

oh wait a min BTC was created in 2009 hmmm http://www.google.com/patents/US20120251502 Ebola government patent. Am sure with BTC being the cure it will fight its way back up BTC just has man flue on recovery from it Smiley

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May 19, 2015, 01:52:24 AM
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could be true but that inflation of gold is way lower - low enough to not be felt. Bitcoin is a different story.
Both gold and Bitcoin are deflationary. Gold will become truly inflationary in the near future when we start mining it from space, though.

Remember Aaron Swartz, a 26 year old computer scientist who died defending the free flow of information.
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May 19, 2015, 04:59:58 PM
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High hash needs to be paid for.
Bitcoin has good hash but keeps going down because that hash needs to be paid.
When you buy gold you do not pay a constant tax to the miners after initial purchase.
Bitcoin is different. Here you pay after purchase a tax to miners of 10% of its value this year.

Can it be cured with speeding up blocktimes or does it need to fork to faster rewarddecrease?
Obviously satoshi was afraid of attackers. He did not think of a whole army of altcoins which could jump in and back it up.
He did not think of the possibility to share hash with other coins.
What sense does a mega-high hashrate make when it is this expensive and makes the coin useless to store value?
Are the fears which would make such high and expensive hashrate necessary still justified in 2015?

Here is my question:
Does Bitcoin have aids? Can it be cured? How?

These questions need to be asked. You are asking the right questions. Unfortunately, bitcoin development vanished the same time Satoshi did.

Most likely the altcoins w/ Satoshi-like developers will lift the bitcoin community from its haze of stagnation.
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May 19, 2015, 06:17:52 PM
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High hash needs to be paid for.
Bitcoin has good hash but keeps going down because that hash needs to be paid.
When you buy gold you do not pay a constant tax to the miners after initial purchase.
Bitcoin is different. Here you pay after purchase a tax to miners of 10% of its value this year.

Can it be cured with speeding up blocktimes or does it need to fork to faster rewarddecrease?
Obviously satoshi was afraid of attackers. He did not think of a whole army of altcoins which could jump in and back it up.
He did not think of the possibility to share hash with other coins.
What sense does a mega-high hashrate make when it is this expensive and makes the coin useless to store value?
Are the fears which would make such high and expensive hashrate necessary still justified in 2015?

Here is my question:
Does Bitcoin have aids? Can it be cured? How?

It would be a tax if BTC would have become as the world most prominent currency, no new people would join Bitcoin and the only effect of mining would be redistribution of holdings in favour of miners if they did it for free. Now since they don't do it for free and BTC has still some steps left for replacing fiat and becoming the dominant currency and payment method in the word these assumptions are wrong and are not true. The only thing to worry about is that there is sufficient new people getting involved to absorb all new mined (not for free) Bitcoins being sold and that's ok. When there would be enough adoption, there will be no mining because of max BTC cap Wink

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May 19, 2015, 07:25:35 PM
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could be true but that inflation of gold is way lower - low enough to not be felt. Bitcoin is a different story.
Both gold and Bitcoin are deflationary. Gold will become truly inflationary in the near future when we start mining it from space, though.

Same with basically every other resource.
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