spiccioli
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October 04, 2015, 06:00:26 PM |
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how can i change "nickname = random_nick()" to my nickname? if i simply change it its wont work.
nickname = 'your-nick' then restart yield-generator. regards. spiccioli
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belcher (OP)
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October 05, 2015, 10:19:27 PM |
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You don't need to do that. It increases privacy if your IRC bot's nickname is generated randomly.
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1HZBd22eQLgbwxjwbCtSjhoPFWxQg8rBd9 JoinMarket - CoinJoin that people will actually use. PGP fingerprint: 0A8B 038F 5E10 CC27 89BF CFFF EF73 4EA6 77F3 1129
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phelix
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October 06, 2015, 12:36:17 PM |
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Idea: Joinmarket Autonomous Agent
A Joinmarket program living on a server making money all by itself via serving customers. Once it has made enough profit it can replicate by renting another server at a (pre programmed) hosting company and installing a copy of itself. It might even send some share home.
Given the somewhat critical nature of joinmarket/coinjoin regarding money laundering this might be a good match. Please consider whether this is legal first, I have no idea.
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tailsjoin
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October 24, 2015, 05:17:38 PM |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512
I'm looking for someone to take over the maintenance of my Github: https://github.com/tailsjoin/tailsjoin. I no longer wish to participate in the development of this project because of this: https://github.com/chris-belcher/joinmarket/pull/272.
If it's not clear to Chris Belcher that EVERYONE deserves to know where their funds are going, and how much, then I don't want to have anything to do with it. Regardless of how this PR goes or what happens with the donation bullshit, I am no longer working on this.
If you would like to take ownership of the tailsjoin project, please email me at: tailsjoin@ruggedinbox.com using my GPG key: 44C5398EA821BB41A0C070521B9184DF9E117718. Unencrypted email will be deleted directly.
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waxwing
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October 24, 2015, 07:13:42 PM |
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tailsjoin:
I understand your perspective and hope you'll reconsider. I think it was a mistake not to make more effort to publicise the optional donation feature (specifically because there was a default opt-in rather than opt-out). I only started paying attention to it this week.
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waxwing
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October 24, 2015, 07:27:35 PM |
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That's understood, but what does 'funding' really mean here? There is no possibility of small donations paying meaningful salaries as VC could do. If funding of that sort is an issue (and sure, it is) then I'm not sure there's any good solution, but skewing the interface so that donations become more likely is not going to solve it (and can result in substantial loss of goodwill). (I want to repeat to anyone reading, we're talking about *optional* donations here. The only discussion was about how it's presented to the user.)
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Sukrim
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October 25, 2015, 09:41:18 AM |
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Just FYI: P2Pool has a very similar "revenue" model of default donations and people just switch it off there.
What should this money be used for anyways? Bounties? Salary? Infrastructure? Building a pool of project coins to earn money from?
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tailsjoin
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October 25, 2015, 06:42:11 PM |
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Financisto
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October 26, 2015, 03:30:30 AM |
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Hey guys, why don't you set a vote system (with all developers - and maybe investors too) in order to choose where the money is gonna be invested?
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tailsjoin
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October 27, 2015, 02:20:41 PM Last edit: October 27, 2015, 11:48:20 PM by tailsjoin |
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Hey guys, why don't you set a vote system (with all developers - and maybe investors too) in order to choose where the money is gonna be invested?
This has nothing to do with where the funds go. My gripe is with the fact that a hidden "idiot/ignorance" tax was added to the tumbler with a default amount of 1.5%. If users weren't paying daily attention to code changes, they knew nothing about this "donation" amount being automatically deducted from their funds and sent to Chris Belcher. This is how things sat for two weeks until I started to make shit about it. Now Chris wants to act superior to everyone (including waxwing who is the only reason JoinMarket is even worth using) by only answering easy questions and intentionally manipulating the conversation. Even the supposed announcement made to quell us into shutting up was manipulative. It is titled "Funding development of JoinMarket" and it's not even stickied. It should be an announcement that clearly states there has been a forced opt-out policy and it should be stickied at the very least. This just feels like disrespect piled on top of more disrespect and contempt for us, the not Chris Belchers. For posterity, here's the thread in question: https://www.reddit.com/r/joinmarket/comments/3q27ys/funding_development_of_joinmarket/Take a look at how to not address a topic head on. This is a wonderful example of an attempt to beat around a bush until everyone forgets it a bush. It's truly infuriating, as a problem solving human being, to have to deal with someone that acts like a religious fanatic, politician, or a used car salesman.
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Financisto
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October 29, 2015, 10:09:35 AM |
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That's a shame. I hope you will overcome that misunderstanding as a team and keep improving this unique project.
BTW Tails + Joinmarket would be very powerful.
Hope to see more development on that...
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dooglus
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October 29, 2015, 09:09:52 PM |
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Why isn't this merged yet? I asked him that on the reddit post: dooglus: I see you still didn't merge pull request #272[1] that does nothing but adds the default to the documentation. belcher_: What is the actual practical alternative? I don't think the US military has an interest in JoinMarket like they have with tor. I guess he's avoiding the question.
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belcher (OP)
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October 30, 2015, 02:07:13 AM |
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1HZBd22eQLgbwxjwbCtSjhoPFWxQg8rBd9 JoinMarket - CoinJoin that people will actually use. PGP fingerprint: 0A8B 038F 5E10 CC27 89BF CFFF EF73 4EA6 77F3 1129
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uwichii
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October 30, 2015, 05:35:18 AM |
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aradesh@aradesh:~/src/joinmarket$ python yield-generator.py blahhh downloading wallet history no tx used Traceback (most recent call last): File "yield-generator.py", line 95, in <module> main() File "yield-generator.py", line 90, in main maker = YieldGenerator(wallet) File "yield-generator.py", line 26, in __init__ Maker.__init__(self, wallet) File "/home/aradesh/src/joinmarket/maker.py", line 129, in __init__ self.orderlist = self.create_my_orders() File "yield-generator.py", line 42, in create_my_orders max_mix = max(mix_balance, key=mix_balance.get) ValueError: max() arg is an empty sequence
i guess i should start mining Wink
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tailsjoin
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October 30, 2015, 07:50:20 PM |
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I will continue work on tailsjoin, and I will offer pull requests when possible for JoinMarket. Although this whole thing was a litte much, I'll be the first to admit that I flew off the handle directly. That is my way, and I would argue that society needs people that act a bit irrational in order to draw in the rational.
Thank you to everyone that participated in the conversation regarding this issue. Thank you Chris for making the appropriate change. Times like these will only make the project stronger in the long run, and all of us as people as well.
My site is fixed, my github is fixed. Lets all have a good day.
tailsjoin Fri Oct 30 19:45:48 UTC 2015
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October 30, 2015, 08:13:44 PM |
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I will continue work on tailsjoin, and I will offer pull requests when possible for JoinMarket. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512
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waxwing
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October 31, 2015, 06:11:29 PM |
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aradesh@aradesh:~/src/joinmarket$ python yield-generator.py blahhh downloading wallet history no tx used Traceback (most recent call last): File "yield-generator.py", line 95, in <module> main() File "yield-generator.py", line 90, in main maker = YieldGenerator(wallet) File "yield-generator.py", line 26, in __init__ Maker.__init__(self, wallet) File "/home/aradesh/src/joinmarket/maker.py", line 129, in __init__ self.orderlist = self.create_my_orders() File "yield-generator.py", line 42, in create_my_orders max_mix = max(mix_balance, key=mix_balance.get) ValueError: max() arg is an empty sequence
i guess i should start mining Wink
You need to fund the wallet. Follow the instructions here: https://github.com/chris-belcher/joinmarket/wiki/Using-the-JoinMarket-internal-wallet#funding-wallet-and-displaying-balance
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cysive
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November 02, 2015, 04:33:57 AM |
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Does the bitoind rpc option work with an encrypted wallet?
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