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January 10, 2015, 08:31:33 PM
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This is basically a

"My horse ran away because I didn't think I needed to bolt the gate"
"Well, um, you shoulda bolted the gate"

.. and it's been dyed black and put on a ship for another country already.

So obviously horse breeders, farriers, sadlers and everyone in the whole horse industry are the ones really at fault.... but if you don't know about bolting gates, it could have been your dog, your pig or your toddler.

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January 10, 2015, 08:36:32 PM
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sorry to hear about that op  Sad
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January 10, 2015, 08:36:49 PM
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you shouldn't keep more bitcoins in your hot wallet than you would keep cash in your physical wallet.

Yes, cold storage may be hard for a non technical person, but you can at least use proper services like Coinbase Vault.  

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January 10, 2015, 08:38:37 PM
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cold storage is not that freaking hard! even sending your balance to a multi bit wallet would have been better.
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January 10, 2015, 08:56:00 PM
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"My horse ran away because I didn't think I needed to bolt the gate"
"Well, um, you shoulda bolted the gate"


The "problem" as I see it isn't with BTC or any other coin for that matter ..
The "problem" is the wallet ..
All the security features are designed to foil "access" to one's wallet ..
As it stands now .. gain "access" and your coins are gone ..
There needs to be an additional security feature from within the wallet
to "authorize" a transaction before it occurs ..
One time SMS or something else secure ..
Without it, we'll continue to see threads such as this ..
The "average" user won't care if his/her  wallet has been accessed
as long as the contents can't be easily moved/stolen ..

Triff ..
  

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January 10, 2015, 09:01:29 PM
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Well yah, the bolt was installed on the gate, 2 factor is available on blockchain.info wallets.

I am however, looking into solutions such as this... https://copay.io/ ... where one might use 2 separate devices and a paper wallet in the safe, for 2 out of 3 multisig.

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January 10, 2015, 09:02:19 PM
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I feel sorry for you but your setup was very, very insecure.
To do something like this you must be very inexperienced computer user.
So no wonder you got hacked.
This is like a warning sign for all people saying BTC can replace banks... just imagine what will happen when your grandma becomes "her own bank"  Undecided

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January 10, 2015, 09:06:26 PM
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Snark all you want guys,
but the takeaway from the all too numerous threads like this one is

BitCoin ?? Why bother ..
Mass adoption ?? not a chance ..

I'm sure the OP will give his friends and associates
a glowing review of his experience with BTC ..

Triff ..


OP's situation is not a reflection on BTC, it's on the OP himself.
With that many coins, should be multiple levels of security. 
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January 10, 2015, 09:38:03 PM
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Fuck man, what awful news!

Knowing what we all know about the anonymity of Bitcoin, you should have taken better precautions, backups for backups!

When did you buy the coins? How much cost did you lose?

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January 10, 2015, 11:16:17 PM
Last edit: January 10, 2015, 11:32:35 PM by toknormal
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almost 7 fking years later, people still get their money stolen, this bitcoin has one huge flaw, nobody understands how to secure this shit, satoshi is a failure

On the contrary.

It's the fact that people can never get it back that makes it so valuable.

The blockchain itself is secure as hell. It's never been hacked in the history of Bitcoin. That's as far as Satoshi's job went. From that point on responsibility lies with the holders of the keys.

If you leave a gold bar in the back of your car and somebody smashes the window and takes it, never to be seen again, don't blame the gold bar.

The way to securely store bitcoin keys is exactly the same as for storing any other electronic asset of value:

[1] - generate the address offline

[2] - dump the public AND private keys using dumpprivkey <myaddress>

***** NOTE AT THIS POINT, VERIFY USING BLOCK EXPLORER THAT ALL YOUR COINS ARE AT THIS ADDRESS AND NOT AT MULTIPLE CHANGE ADDRESSES BURIED IN THE WALLET IN WHICH CASE YOU NEED TO DUMPPRIVKEY FOR ALL THE ADDRESSES **********

[3] - print the public/private keypair and store in a safe place (or a bank safe)

THEN

[4] - create an encrypted drive image to store your wallet (Macs are easy - use the drive utility, takes 30 seconds)

[5] - copy your wallet to the encrypted drive and close the drive

[6] - send your money to that address

[7] - store one copy of your encrypted drive on an external storage device and put it in a cupboard

[8] - upload another copy to an online storage backup like Google drive and preferably protect your login with 2-factor login

Even if someone steals your drive or hacks your Google drive, they won't be able to open your wallet because:

a) - they won't be able to crack the encrypted drive

b) - even if they could, your wallet should be encrypted as well

This may seem like a palaver but Bitcoin is BASE MONEY. There is nothing 'backing' Bitcoin - it is IT, so don't complain. You'd have to go through the same palaver if you had a gold bar in your possession.

P.S. That's the 'best practice' template. I bend the rules a bit by testing the address first before I send my coins to it. i.e. I do actually go online with the wallet briefly and send something from the address to make absolutely sure I control it. But everyone must find what suits them and what's appropriate for the amount of coins they've got.

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January 10, 2015, 11:37:26 PM
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Whats the fcking point of this thread ? really i mean we've gotten tons of threads like this in the past, i thought ppl would atleast do a fcking search.


No one can help you OP, you're dumb enough to store your private key online, you deserve this.

I'm sick and tired of irresponsibility. First thing you learn about bitcoin is security, not "OMG i want to be rich!"
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January 10, 2015, 11:42:35 PM
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OP,

I am sorry for your loss, but I am also curious:

Did you not see similar threads on Bitcointalk
in the past where people have had their coins stolen?

If so, did you not think "Maybe I should better
secure my coins"?

And if so, why did you not do so?

JF


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January 10, 2015, 11:51:48 PM
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OP,

I am sorry for your loss, but I am also curious:

Did you not see similar threads on Bitcointalk
in the past where people have had their coins stolen?

If so, did you not think "Maybe I should better
secure my coins"?

And if so, why did you not do so?

JF



Its even more reasonable to think that this thread is a hoax to spread more fear. Even in the past, not all threads like this has been proved a legit theft. I can send bitcoins to an exchange to dump it and make a similar thread... " OMG my bitcoins are stolen.... Its terrible and noone will save bitcoin from hacking"


PS. Notice the OP make a new account to make this thread? Surely if someone own 180 btc would not just be a lurker on this forum. Either show your real username or GTFO.
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January 11, 2015, 12:10:57 AM
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Pour encourager le bolting of le gates in the first place...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=920168.0 (Beginners area, basic security thread)

Please add your 2 satoshis.

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January 11, 2015, 01:52:30 AM
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Sorry dude , But how can you save your details in the stupid Email? Email is not safe! I can't understand every time BlockChain.info asks me to add my email to my account,worse yet,they would send the private key to the email by automatic-backup system. So if you get your email hacked, you're done.
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January 11, 2015, 02:03:45 AM
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Sorry dude , But how can you save your details in the stupid Email? Email is not safe! I can't understand every time BlockChain.info asks me to add my email to my account,worse yet,they would send the private key to the email by automatic-backup system. So if you get your email hacked, you're done.

They dont have your private key, so dafug you're talking about?

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January 11, 2015, 03:51:00 AM
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wtf how could i knew that someone can hack my gmail account by spyware or something. i just trusted on google's security


Mzee, You really need to get an antivirus / antimalware with active shield for your PC... You can not do passive scans after the fact. Google free Avast, free AVG, free Avira, etc. Even basic Microsoft Security Essentials is better than nothing. Malwarebytes is highly recommended around here as well but you probably need to get full / paid version with active monitoring component. Sorry, this is a bit too late to be helpful but at least gives you some future direction... I do not even want to comment on saving your important credentials on email servers (especially public ones).
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January 11, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
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Wow this is sad.

Sorry for your loss.

People can learn from this loss. So many mistakes being made over and over and over.

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January 11, 2015, 12:54:33 PM
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I smell something fishy  Roll Eyes

If you own and trade over a hundred btc on localbitcoins you also know basic security and how to safeguard your coins, gmail 2fa is enough imo. If you did not have atleast that activated i am lol'n!!

Sorry but the coins deserve to be with someone who will look after them and keep them safe which unless you are making this up for whatever weird reason, the thief will surly do  Grin

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January 11, 2015, 01:11:40 PM
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feel sorry for you man
that was a lot of bitcoin
the chance is very low, but you can track all ip from your email, or browser or anything that has relation with ip address
which is  that was not your ip address
and then if you have ip attacker, find with "who is". and report abuse to service that use that ip address
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