antminer s6 4500gh/s 1000watts

[jonnybravo0311]

True I am wanting to see costs of one not in place.  I just think it's going to be a pretty considerable cost to get up and running.

I also think there is a decent chance you would have to commit to it and buy a house and not rent.  I just see a lot of possible expenses.

Let's say you want to keep this residential, and we'll also assume for the sake of argument that you've already got a home.  Further, we will assume that you've got the space to keep the equipment (like a basement or garage).  We'll also assume you've already got reliable broadband internet service.

1) Upgrade your electric service.  Chances are good you've probably got 100A service coming into your house.  That's not going to cut it.  You'll need at least another 200A.
2) Dedicated panel, wiring, breakers.  You'll probably want to throw 240/30 breakers in the new panel.
3) Outlets (Nema L630 probably) placed and wired 1 per circuit breaker
4) Racks to hold your gear
5) PDUs to plug the gear into
6) Network switch(es) to plug the miners into
7) Network cables
8.) Cable ties
9) Cooling.  We'll assume here you can use simple box fans to evacuate the excess heat.
10) The mining rigs (Assume you can get your hands on SP35.  You'll need 8 of them underclocked @ 5.025TH/s each to match dmwardjr's hash rate)
11) Most likely you'll want to throw a proxy server in front of your gear (not necessary, but likely you will)

I'm sure I'm probably missing something in my list, but you can pretty much see how this is a large up front cost even with the assumptions I've made that you've got the space and just need to set it up.

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[alh]

It seems obvious to me that once you get to a certain scale, your mining operation no longer fits into a residence (i.e. where people live, sleep, etc), and is more appropriate for a commercial environment. I would expect that the servicing electrical company lays out their infrastructure according to the expected usage. At some point they won't be able to accommodate a business operating within a residential area. You can try and push around the boundaries at various times and in various ways, but at some point it just won't make sense. That point will depend on a variety of locale specific factors, that aren't uniform across the country. Even if you are willing to convert your home to mining, it may not fly. Besides electricity, also think cooling and noise (usually generated by the cooling). Your residential neighbors may not appreciate the impact you have on their lives.

[notlist3d]

True I am wanting to see costs of one not in place.  I just think it's going to be a pretty considerable cost to get up and running.

I also think there is a decent chance you would have to commit to it and buy a house and not rent.  I just see a lot of possible expenses.

Let's say you want to keep this residential, and we'll also assume for the sake of argument that you've already got a home.  Further, we will assume that you've got the space to keep the equipment (like a basement or garage).  We'll also assume you've already got reliable broadband internet service.

1) Upgrade your electric service.  Chances are good you've probably got 100A service coming into your house.  That's not going to cut it.  You'll need at least another 200A.
2) Dedicated panel, wiring, breakers.  You'll probably want to throw 240/30 breakers in the new panel.
3) Outlets (Nema L630 probably) placed and wired 1 per circuit breaker
4) Racks to hold your gear
5) PDUs to plug the gear into
6) Network switch(es) to plug the miners into
7) Network cables
8.) Cable ties
9) Cooling.  We'll assume here you can use simple box fans to evacuate the excess heat.
10) The mining rigs (Assume you can get your hands on SP35.  You'll need 8 of them underclocked @ 5.025TH/s each to match dmwardjr's hash rate)
11) Most likely you'll want to throw a proxy server in front of your gear (not necessary, but likely you will)

I'm sure I'm probably missing something in my list, but you can pretty much see how this is a large up front cost even with the assumptions I've made that you've got the space and just need to set it up.

I think getting a electrician to get you 200A will not be cheap.  And a setting up subpanel for miners adds to cost aswell.

I could be wrong but I just think it's going to be costly to move there and get it all set up.

[jonnybravo0311]

I think getting a electrician to get you 200A will not be cheap.  And a setting up subpanel for miners adds to cost aswell.

I could be wrong but I just think it's going to be costly to move there and get it all set up.

No, you're definitely not wrong.  Even if we make the broad assumption that everything is already there and setup for you to just populate with the gear, you still need to get the gear there.  Moving across the country is a decent-sized expense on its own.

[dmwardjr]

Even if I were single, I seriously doubt that I would "chase Bitcoin across the USA". There are other ways to make money, and have an interesting life. Having a major part of your livelihood wrapped up in Bitcoin seems like an enormous risk, and not very interesting after 5-8 years, if that long. I can't see Bitcoin as a career at all. Sure there are variety of skills you would develop, none of which require Bitcoin to develop. I would much prefer to develop skills which aren't as likely to go POOF if Bitcoin just turns into a pile of meaningless bits.

I already have skills.  I train telephone technicians for a living for CenturyLink.  I'm a contractor they hire to come in and train their techs.  I have already trained approximately 75% of the techs on the East Coast.  It's time to move to the West Coast very soon to train technicians there.  CenturyLink has a lot of area on the West Coast in Washington State and Oregon.  I'm in Warren, Ohio this very moment in a hotel.  I'm here for four (4) weeks doing 4-Day courses for CenturyLink.  I teach their technicians how to use their meter to identify and locate troubles on wire-line service; not wireless.  The meter they use is the JDSU HST-3000 http://www.jdsu.com/en-us/test-and-measurement/products/a-z-product-list/pages/hst-3000.aspx#.VULeLs40qM4)



Don't assume someone is only mining bitcoin if they move to Washington State.

[dmwardjr]

I wish someone would do the math with all costs involved.  To get 28,800 if you are thinking of running at your residence pretty much eliminates renting a house.  That is a lot of electricity and cooling gear to be installed, most landlords would not allow huge modifications for miners.

I would like to see electricity cost, cost of equipment, buying house/renting house, etc, etc.  Finding a place without electricity requirements making it hard.

I just think it will add up quick on costs but I could be wrong.

I've already done the math with several different scenarios.  Sorry, but I don't wish to get into the math on here in this thread.  I have already done a lot of research.  I'm not saying what research, emails and phone calls I have made, but it is definitely worth moving out there if you have enough capital in the beginning to start out with 160 TH/s minimum.  That includes capital for exhaust fan(s), switches, etc...

[dmwardjr]

I wish someone would do the math with all costs involved.  To get 28,800 if you are thinking of running at your residence pretty much eliminates renting a house.  That is a lot of electricity and cooling gear to be installed, most landlords would not allow huge modifications for miners.

I would like to see electricity cost, cost of equipment, buying house/renting house, etc, etc.  Finding a place without electricity requirements making it hard.

I just think it will add up quick on costs but I could be wrong.

To get 28.8K you're already well above and beyond a typical home's capacity.  You're talking dedicated circuitry and wiring, upgraded service and new panels.  This is definitely in the realm of commercial at this point.  The data provided by dmwardjr just shows operating costs of a system already in place.

I already have 28,800 watts worth of equipment.  My equipment can easily hash at a 50 TH/s rate without over clocking.  I'm under clocked at the moment.  I'm wanting to invest into another 100 TH/s of S5's with switches, cords, racks, etc...  I'm not saying where this equipment is going.  I don't want anyone to get what I have my eyes on at the moment.  I'm not giving any more details about location or structure.

[dmwardjr]

I think getting a electrician to get you 200A will not be cheap.  And a setting up subpanel for miners adds to cost aswell.

I could be wrong but I just think it's going to be costly to move there and get it all set up.

No, you're definitely not wrong.  Even if we make the broad assumption that everything is already there and setup for you to just populate with the gear, you still need to get the gear there.  Moving across the country is a decent-sized expense on its own.

That's where an 8' x 18' enclosed trailer [sufficient for even hauling a car] comes in very handy if you have one.  I have one to haul my rigs, fans, racks, tools, furniture, etc...

[notlist3d]

I think getting a electrician to get you 200A will not be cheap.  And a setting up subpanel for miners adds to cost aswell.

I could be wrong but I just think it's going to be costly to move there and get it all set up.

No, you're definitely not wrong.  Even if we make the broad assumption that everything is already there and setup for you to just populate with the gear, you still need to get the gear there.  Moving across the country is a decent-sized expense on its own.

I'm sure there are some good ones out there.  But the quote I just got a few weeks ago was rediclous for a small task.

I just can't imagine doing a lot of work with a electrician, unless you somehow have a in to get a lower price.

[jonnybravo0311]

I think getting a electrician to get you 200A will not be cheap.  And a setting up subpanel for miners adds to cost aswell.

I could be wrong but I just think it's going to be costly to move there and get it all set up.

No, you're definitely not wrong.  Even if we make the broad assumption that everything is already there and setup for you to just populate with the gear, you still need to get the gear there.  Moving across the country is a decent-sized expense on its own.

That's where an 8' x 18' enclosed trailer [sufficient for even hauling a car] comes in very handy if you have one.  I have one to haul my rigs, fans, racks, tools, furniture, etc...

Yep, that'd certainly be useful .  Sounds like you're pretty good to go, then.  I wish you the best of luck in obtaining the space you're looking to get... and in picking up that extra 100TH.

[philipma1957]

I think getting a electrician to get you 200A will not be cheap.  And a setting up subpanel for miners adds to cost aswell.

I could be wrong but I just think it's going to be costly to move there and get it all set up.

No, you're definitely not wrong.  Even if we make the broad assumption that everything is already there and setup for you to just populate with the gear, you still need to get the gear there.  Moving across the country is a decent-sized expense on its own.

That's where an 8' x 18' enclosed trailer [sufficient for even hauling a car] comes in very handy if you have one.  I have one to haul my rigs, fans, racks, tools, furniture, etc...

Nice this should be a good adventure for you.  I truly wish the best of luck to you on the left coast.

[scyth3]

I'm going to put my guess in:

Antminer S6
208 Chips
3250GH/s
1430watts
0.44w/GH
$1200
Release right after Sfards' unit

[amelen]

I'm going to put my guess in:

Antminer S6
208 Chips
3250GH/s
1430watts
0.44w/GH
$1200
Release right after Sfards' unit

Right now, you can get 3x S5's:

3300GH/s
1800watts
$1100

I think they'd need to sell the S6 for less, otherwise, you can just get 3x S5's..

Btw, I spoke to them recently and S7 is scheduled for July, no info on the S6 though.

[sidehack]

Does that S5 cost include the 1800W worth of PSU? And then there's the markup for increasing efficiency 15%.

I'm not sure where the 208 chips is coming from. With the same setup as the S4+ (204 chips, 4 units 3p17s) except using BM1384 chips you could see 2.8TH off a 1KW PSU about 0.37W/GH wall. Chuck six units behind Bitmain's fancy new PSU and you'd get 4.2TH from about 1.6KW wall power and they could probably build 'em for under $1100, not sure what retail price would be.

[scyth3]

Does that S5 cost include the 1800W worth of PSU? And then there's the markup for increasing efficiency 15%.

I'm not sure where the 208 chips is coming from. With the same setup as the S4+ (204 chips, 4 units 3p17s) except using BM1384 chips you could see 2.8TH off a 1KW PSU about 0.37W/GH wall. Chuck six units behind Bitmain's fancy new PSU and you'd get 4.2TH from about 1.6KW wall power and they could probably build 'em for under $1100, not sure what retail price would be.

I did some bad math. I meant to say 192chips, 4x 3p16s, but whatever it was just a fun guess to bump the thread.

[sidehack]

Ah, yeah that's about right. It'd be one step better than S5 density. I'd really like to see the 2.8TH 1KW machine though. Or what would be pretty close to it, an S2 Upgrade Kit.

[Borgminer]

funny they told me they werent doing an s6 design and where going to jump straight to an s7 design with a new chip.

[RichBC]

I think that the S5+ has also got the S6 covered. 

Rich

[gablay12]

I believe there will be a S6.

I believe there will be a water cooled model, 2.5 TH with 2*1000 Watt.

I am a believer:)

[seoincorporation]

The new antminer s6 wil come this mont
The antminer s6 gone have 4500 gh/s
Power 1000watts
I can not wait to order

I would like to know the source of this, i have search a lot and don't find anything.

It sound too good to be real