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January 13, 2015, 08:15:48 PM
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Hey guys,

Cyrus Farivar here. I'm a reporter with Ars Technica working on a story about GAW and Garza. I spoke with him by phone yesterday and would love to speak with anyone that has had direct dealings with the company and/or has direct knowledge of financials of similar companies. He made some claims that sound wild to me, but I want to check.

My previous work: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/digging-for-answers-the-strong-smell-of-fraud-from-one-bitcoin-miner-maker/

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January 13, 2015, 08:47:24 PM
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you still ask?
cant see it?

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January 13, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
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You want to go here for the information you see:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.16220
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January 13, 2015, 09:22:54 PM
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You want to go here for the information you see:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.16220

Best place to get information about GAW.  Many of the users over there have done lots of research and here is a link to some stuff I have been archiving.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y9qBOX-VUfsR3femQ9ggmqvgepksImqag1R2SPVUiNk/edit#gid=0
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January 13, 2015, 09:29:28 PM
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Cyrus, is Josh (or his lawyer/editor whatever) referring to you in this post:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28975

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Despite my best efforts to explain the increasingly important role Paycoin™ enjoys, in addition to my defense of cryptocurrencies in general, I quickly recognized that the reporter's adversarial approach – his disbelief that there is even a market for digital currencies, followed by an almost contemptuous attitude about some very straightforward numbers – left me with one of two options, fight or flight.

I could have thrown a combination of air punches, or I could have not so much fled as I could – and did – state my case with evidence . . . and politely conclude the "conversation."

I thought it was funny how he felt the need to have this sort of "preemptive strike", probably trying to invalidate anything that reporter might publish.

Anyway, I'm sorry I don't have any hard numbers or insight into financials, but please take a look at a brief summary I tried to put together here - maybe you'll find something that could help you dig deeper:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9544806#msg9544806
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January 13, 2015, 10:30:19 PM
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Now THIS is definitely for you  Grin

https://hashtalk.org/topic/29007

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An Open Letter to Cyrus Farivar: Reportage Conducted by a Star Chamber

Source: https://twitter.com/cfarivar/status/555096214970986496

Cyrus,

I am not privy to the editorial policies of Ars Technica, which presumably govern the questions you pose, the stories you file and the notes you furnish to your superiors involving your work.

From my vantage point, however, it appears that you wear many hats (of different sizes), so to speak.

There is your reporter's hat, by which you enjoy access to events and scheduled conversations with executives.

And then, there is your police officer's hat, in addition to your powdered wig from the judiciary, where, unlike reading a person his Miranda rights in the real world, you brandish your digital truncheon, assault an innocent citizen and then haul that same individual before a court of one, so you may render your 140-count verdict – on Twitter – of absolute condemnation.

My question to you, therefore, is simple: When is my execution date?

Your tweet encouraging people to contact you if they believe Paycoin™ is a scam is some of the most outrageous behavior I have witnessed by a so-called professional.

If you are unable to distinguish between facts and beliefs – if you think we each have a right to our own opinions and our own version of the truth – then you are a reporter in name only.

Would you, for example, publish a tweet requesting submissions from your followers – I hope they are not morally blind followers – about their beliefs concerning any and all things you deem a potential scam?

Your tweet is an updated version of an infamous loaded question: When, Mr. Garza, did you stop beating your wife?

I will not hesitate to expose egregious behavior that masquerades as journalism, when it is, in fact, the assembly of a star chamber designed to malign a person's character, sow dissent and destroy an industry – never mind a specific company or currency – about which, after speaking with you, I believe you neither understand nor appreciate.

I hope you conduct future interviews with a greater degree of preparedness.

Readers of Ars Technica deserve solid journalism, not gutter politics.

Josh Garza
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January 13, 2015, 10:41:36 PM
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Sir, I have had dealings with Gaw and Mr. Garza since the days when they offered asic scrypt miners.  I've purchased a hosted black widow, a hosted fury, a non hosted fury, and many hashlets from Gawminers.  I've ROI'd on each and made money on top of each.  With the latest Paycoin buy back, I will stand to ROI on my purchased Hash Stakers as well as profit from my converted prime hashlets.  I do not think I was scammed.
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January 13, 2015, 10:49:04 PM
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so, why does a reporter on cryptocurrency only JUST created a bitcointalk account?
guess he's so up on cryptos he's never needed to be here before.

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January 13, 2015, 10:50:55 PM
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Hey guys,

Cyrus Farivar here. I'm a reporter with Ars Technica working on a story about GAW and Garza. I spoke with him by phone yesterday and would love to speak with anyone that has had direct dealings with the company and/or has direct knowledge of financials of similar companies. He made some claims that sound wild to me, but I want to check.

My previous work: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/digging-for-answers-the-strong-smell-of-fraud-from-one-bitcoin-miner-maker/

EMAIL ME:

cyrus.farivar [AT] arstechnica.com

PGP/OTR: http://arstechnica.com/ars-staff-pgp-keys/#cyrus-farivar

https://github.com/cfarivar/crypto-details/blob/master/README.md

wow, the fact that you are here trying to only look for bad stories on GAW shows how much integrity you have. You call yourself a Journalist?.Pm me some of these "wild claims" and I'll happily set you straight.

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January 13, 2015, 10:51:01 PM
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Is this a joke? I know when I read my news stories I always look for the ones that state they use anonymous users from BCT talk. I figure that has to be the most reliable source from a great reporter. What is the world coming too? Everyone gets to be a reporter. Just post a bunch of crap that will get people worked up on both sides.
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January 13, 2015, 10:53:13 PM
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Hey guys,

Cyrus Farivar here. I'm a reporter with Ars Technica working on a story about GAW and Garza. I spoke with him by phone yesterday and would love to speak with anyone that has had direct dealings with the company and/or has direct knowledge of financials of similar companies. He made some claims that sound wild to me, but I want to check.

My previous work: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/digging-for-answers-the-strong-smell-of-fraud-from-one-bitcoin-miner-maker/

EMAIL ME:

cyrus.farivar [AT] arstechnica.com

PGP/OTR: http://arstechnica.com/ars-staff-pgp-keys/#cyrus-farivar

https://github.com/cfarivar/crypto-details/blob/master/README.md

wow, the fact that you are here trying to only look for bad stories on GAW shows how much integrity you have. You call yourself a Journalist?.

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yup, it's telling he tweeted a request for negative comments, and not asked for positive ones, or "any" comments. he only wants the one side for his foxnews like reporting.

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January 13, 2015, 10:53:18 PM
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GAW is a good company mind you there may have been somethings that where misinterpreted by some people. That being Said the major users of this site bitcointalk.org have spread FUD and continue to do so as they see Paycoin as being a threat to there precious Bitcoin which has seen it value drop rapidly since the start of paycoin. That being said at the start of Paycoin mining there where large mining farms turning there vast mining power on to paycoin these farms which would normally mine BTC. As markets started taking Paycoin for Fiat there where large dumps being made causing Paycoin to go from $20 value to under $5 dollers that market was flooded to try and protect Bitcoin. The so called price was based on the fact that the coin would reach $20 in market value and did not factor in for illicit players tampering and short selling on the exchanges. You can get the deta from any major exchange that is trading XPY.    
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January 13, 2015, 10:53:47 PM
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I have been with GAW for 4 months and have made ROI on every purchase I have made. Unbiased journalism should investigate all corners NOT just at the place where GAW is hated the most Wink
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January 13, 2015, 10:58:31 PM
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EMAIL ME:


and he wants it spoonfed directly to himself. not even willing to hang around and do some actual reading.
lazy ass 'journalist.'

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January 13, 2015, 10:58:49 PM
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Hey guys,

Cyrus Farivar here. I'm a reporter with Ars Technica working on a story about GAW and Garza. I spoke with him by phone yesterday and would love to speak with anyone that has had direct dealings with the company and/or has direct knowledge of financials of similar companies. He made some claims that sound wild to me, but I want to check.

My previous work: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/digging-for-answers-the-strong-smell-of-fraud-from-one-bitcoin-miner-maker/

EMAIL ME:

cyrus.farivar [AT] arstechnica.com

PGP/OTR: http://arstechnica.com/ars-staff-pgp-keys/#cyrus-farivar

https://github.com/cfarivar/crypto-details/blob/master/README.md

wow, the fact that you are here trying to only look for bad stories on GAW shows how much integrity you have. You call yourself a Journalist?.

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yup, it's telling he tweeted a request for negative comments, and not asked for positive ones, or "any" comments. he only wants the one side for his foxnews like reporting.

Oh come on now. You had the throw the Fox news in there?  Roll Eyes
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January 13, 2015, 11:00:05 PM
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the dunce homero is whining about scam and fraud while some one other than him writes it for him.

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January 13, 2015, 11:01:46 PM
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Sounds good to me. Wild claims, get used to it. You're dealing with GAW and Paycoin community.

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January 13, 2015, 11:03:57 PM
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Genius at Work: if ever the single time to refute claims of fraud and scam, would be now and written in his own words by him. not some cheap loquacious high school English major copy-writer.  The fool just does not get it. Never has never will.

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January 13, 2015, 11:06:56 PM
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Now THIS is definitely for you  Grin

https://hashtalk.org/topic/29007


He should hire someone over at GAW to keep his keyboard away from him.
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January 13, 2015, 11:07:06 PM
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INCOMING! HT airdrop!

You guys are funny. If you don't like this the worst thing you can do is keep bumping this thread with personal attacks against the OP. Despite what you've been told by your great leader, this will NOT make XPY look any better. But don't let me get in your way. Carry on.
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