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January 17, 2015, 02:07:00 AM
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Given that the topic of this thread is your feedback against those companies, and that it depends on circumstances changing (being able to prove they aren't a ponzi), I would think you would jump at the chance to show you are trustworthy and fair with your ratings, and that you do intend to change feedback as circumstances change. Being in default trust network doesn't mean everyone trusts you, just that the one person who put you on their list does.

I've already proven that I'm willing to remove feedback by removing feedback from nexusmining. Like I said, I've reached out to der_troll who has simply ignored my PM's. I'm willing to remove that negative feedback, der_troll just has to be willing to do the same and get in touch with me.



Looks like you succeeded in using default trust in order to coerce someone else into removing their negative feedback against you. Good for you. That makes you and CanaryInTheMine look like upstanding people who definitely deserve to be in the default trust network, and certainly doesn't lend any credence to other claims that may or may not be true /s. 

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Well technically speaking he did not succeed, and I used my words/logic to get him to remove his trust on me.

Hopefully he will see that this is not the first time he has done this and will remove him.

I clearly stated that the removal of the negative trust was due to my opinion changing and of no help from you. I do not believe in your logic still.

"Negative trust removed, not because of this thread but due to a change in opinion of mine: reference"
Well either way, you intent was still of that to coerce me into getting me to stop leaving negative trust to people who I though were scamming.

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January 17, 2015, 04:54:39 AM
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I do not believe in your logic still. Anyways, its not blackmail just merely the fact that I don't trust his judgment. Hence the negative trust...

"Negative trust removed, not because of this thread but due to a change in opinion of mine: reference"

It was a threat where if your demands wern't met there would be negative consequences for him. You can argue that's blackmail. And If you don't trust someone's ratings you can exclude them from your trust by adding a ~. If I and Quickseller don't trust your ratings would it be ok for us to leave negative for you? Leaving negative feedback for ponzis isn't exactly trust abuse but threatening people to remove their valid ratings is.

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January 17, 2015, 06:19:40 AM
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I've already explained in the other topic , them aren't a ponzi games but a PONZI SCHEMES. However quickseller I've sent you a pm.
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January 17, 2015, 06:47:48 AM
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I don't know if this is the right place , but a few days ago ( the 14th Jan)  I've received a request through the email address to change the password . This is the IP address :

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121.54.32.97

I don't know if someone here is involved , but I would like to ask BadBear if he can check the ip.


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January 17, 2015, 06:54:21 AM
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I don't know if this is the right place , but a few days ago ( the 14th Jan)  I've received a request through the email address to change the password . This is the IP address :

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121.54.32.97

I don't know if someone here is involved , but I would like to ask BadBear if he can check the ip.


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That is showing as being a static IP address in the Philippines (maybe a SOCKS5 proxy?). Per my PM conversation with redsn0w only moreia and the lender from moreia's loan know his email address. There is a connection that links moriea to an account hacker (they were both aggressively pushing bitcoin-stocks) and a connection to moreia to michaelanair (same connection). Additionally this would explain why michaelandair would want redsn0w's trust rating to be perfect.

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January 17, 2015, 07:54:09 AM
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You both shouldn't be on the default trust list. The fact either of you are is truly sad for this forum. Members here for 6 months essentially and given the power to give green or red to any account. Not right.

Hell, Quickseller even sells accounts, he could simply build his shill accounts to give them green. One of the biggest problems with this forum right now is the sheer amount of spam accounts and accounts simply used for signature campaigns. The spam is out of control, YET one of the main sellers who supplies the accounts which spams and ultimately is part of the problem is on the default trust list. He even markets that spamming can earn you money. Yet BadBear is constantly banning spammers because its a problem. Now tell me why an account less then a year old, supplying a strong part of this forum's biggest downfall right now is on the default list? Oh the irony.

Probably one of the biggest BS things on this forum right now.

I'm a lover not a hater. I'm a scam buster misunderstood. However, this forum is full of haters which is why you see my trust. They can't handle my success so they try to stop me...BUT NO ONE STOPS MY SUCCESS! ....Find Quickseller annoying? Click the "ignore" button below his name! You're welcome!
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January 17, 2015, 08:01:04 AM
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Anyone on the default could give their alts positive trust, but if they did and it was found out (which wouldn't be that difficult especially in Quickseller's case) they likely would be removed. It also doesn't matter how long someone has been here but how trustworthy they are with their ratings. If it's abused by them they'll be removed so it's in their interests to keep their feedbacks accurate.

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January 17, 2015, 08:12:23 AM
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You both shouldn't be on the default trust list. The fact either of you are is truly sad for this forum. Members here for 6 months essentially and given the power to give green or red to any account. Not right.

Hell, Quickseller even sells accounts, he could simply build his shill accounts to give them green. One of the biggest problems with this forum right now is the sheer amount of spam accounts and accounts simply used for signature campaigns. The spam is out of control, YET one of the main sellers who supplies the accounts which spams and ultimately is part of the problem is on the default trust list. He even markets that spamming can earn you money. Yet BadBear is constantly banning spammers because its a problem. Now tell me why an account less then a year old, supplying a strong part of this forum's biggest downfall right now is on the default list? Oh the irony.

Probably one of the biggest BS things on this forum right now.

Have you thought to think that maybe BadBear has looked into my alts and the posts that I have made? I think it is stereotypical to say that just because I sell accounts that I spam with all my alts.

Why don't you tell me where I market that spamming can make someone money? If you are referring to the fact that someone can earn money via signature advertising then your statement is very misleading. If someone is able to add to conversations while they happen to be earning BTC then they are not spamming.

You are basing the age of an account to be a determining factor as to if you should trust their trust reports. The age of an account is highly misleading to determine if you should trust it or not, and if you are implying that someone should use the age of an account to determine if they should be trusted then you are only helping scammers (and are probably a scammer yourself).

You clearly have not done your research into either of us.

I would also challenge you to show your true face and to reveal your "main" account

I would be willing to bet that you cannot show one trust repot that I have given that you can reasonably say was given to one of my alts

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January 17, 2015, 08:51:57 AM
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Relevant PM's:
Please remove the negative trust that you placed on RedSn0w or at least make it neutral. He is to be trusted but just not for escrow, so put it as neutral or we will have problems.
The negative trust you gave to Redsn0w is unecessary as he did nothing to make him untrustworthy. Please remove it or at least make it neutral trust or I'll be forced to give you negative trust.

haha ok Mr. Police man. So what kind of problems will you guys be having? Trust war?

Quite a funny threat.

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January 17, 2015, 08:57:10 AM
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Relevant PM's:
Please remove the negative trust that you placed on RedSn0w or at least make it neutral. He is to be trusted but just not for escrow, so put it as neutral or we will have problems.
The negative trust you gave to Redsn0w is unecessary as he did nothing to make him untrustworthy. Please remove it or at least make it neutral trust or I'll be forced to give you negative trust.

haha ok Mr. Police man. So what kind of problems will you guys be having? Trust war?

Quite a funny threat.
Do you think that someone who is threatening to leave negative trust if certain trust is not given/removed should be trusted by default by the community?

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January 17, 2015, 09:06:16 AM
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Oh yeah, most definitely. In fact promote him to admin. Isn't it obvious?

And while we're on the same topic, you better feed me with some positive trust. Or else... you're gonna get it...

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January 17, 2015, 09:08:26 AM
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Oh yeah, most definitely. In fact promote him to admin. Isn't it obvious?

And while we're on the same topic, you better feed me with some positive trust. Or else... you're gonna get it...
Point made. Thanks Smiley

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January 17, 2015, 09:55:08 AM
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Oh yeah, most definitely. In fact promote him to admin. Isn't it obvious?

And while we're on the same topic, you better feed me with some positive trust. Or else... you're gonna get it...
Point made. Thanks Smiley
Okay now I'm pissed... Fucking pissed as hell in fact.
I am not alts of any of those damn accounts Quickseller and I don't even know how to fucking hack. Take me off of the default trust list idc, but don't give me negative trust. I will consent to an IP check, hell I'll give you my fucking address.

BADBEAR, please contact me. I'd like you to IP check my account and all in question accounts that they are accusing that I own.

EDIT: I request myself off default trust.

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January 17, 2015, 11:16:37 AM
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Oh yeah, most definitely. In fact promote him to admin. Isn't it obvious?

And while we're on the same topic, you better feed me with some positive trust. Or else... you're gonna get it...
Point made. Thanks Smiley

You better give me positive trust right now else I'm going to kill your dog.
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January 17, 2015, 11:35:02 AM
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Oh yeah, most definitely. In fact promote him to admin. Isn't it obvious?

And while we're on the same topic, you better feed me with some positive trust. Or else... you're gonna get it...
Point made. Thanks Smiley

You better give me positive trust right now else I'm going to kill your dog.

Please delete this post and dont threadjack I'd like badbear to see my latest post.

Just PM him if you want him to remove you from his trust list, I doubt he will deny your request.
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January 17, 2015, 11:40:59 AM
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Oh yeah, most definitely. In fact promote him to admin. Isn't it obvious?

And while we're on the same topic, you better feed me with some positive trust. Or else... you're gonna get it...
Point made. Thanks Smiley

You better give me positive trust right now else I'm going to kill your dog.

Please delete this post and dont threadjack I'd like badbear to see my latest post.

I'm not threadjacking. It's not your thread to claim is being threadjacked.
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January 17, 2015, 12:58:41 PM
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Oh yeah, most definitely. In fact promote him to admin. Isn't it obvious?

And while we're on the same topic, you better feed me with some positive trust. Or else... you're gonna get it...
Point made. Thanks Smiley

You better give me positive trust right now else I'm going to kill your dog.

Please delete this post and dont threadjack I'd like badbear to see my latest post.

Just PM him if you want him to remove you from his trust list, I doubt he will deny your request.

I want him to see that whole post because quickseller is claiming that I am an alt of those accounts and I'm not (check my trust for reference)

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January 17, 2015, 12:58:52 PM
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Oh yeah, most definitely. In fact promote him to admin. Isn't it obvious?

And while we're on the same topic, you better feed me with some positive trust. Or else... you're gonna get it...
Point made. Thanks Smiley
Okay now I'm pissed... Fucking pissed as hell in fact.
I am not alts of any of those damn accounts Quickseller and I don't even know how to fucking hack. Take me off of the default trust list idc, but don't give me negative trust. I will consent to an IP check, hell I'll give you my fucking address.

BADBEAR, please contact me. I'd like you to IP check my account and all in question accounts that they are accusing that I own.

EDIT: I request myself off default trust.

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January 17, 2015, 01:47:00 PM
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Oh yeah, most definitely. In fact promote him to admin. Isn't it obvious?

And while we're on the same topic, you better feed me with some positive trust. Or else... you're gonna get it...
Point made. Thanks Smiley

You better give me positive trust right now else I'm going to kill your dog.

Please delete this post and dont threadjack I'd like badbear to see my latest post.

Just PM him if you want him to remove you from his trust list, I doubt he will deny your request.

I want him to see that whole post because quickseller is claiming that I am an alt of those accounts and I'm not (check my trust for reference)

His feedback says you're either an alt or an associate of Plutonium & co. I'm not sure if you're the same person, there isn't conclusive evidence here, but there is good reason to think you were involved in his operations. You made many posts promoting his scheme and left him positive feedback. You also offered to get Plutonium to remove the negative trust he left me, which I'm not sure why you would have done if you didn't have some sort of relationship with him:
O shit, he negged you? Want me to try and get him to remove it?

You should have known you were staking your reputation by endorsing his scam.
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January 17, 2015, 01:50:07 PM
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Oh yeah, most definitely. In fact promote him to admin. Isn't it obvious?

And while we're on the same topic, you better feed me with some positive trust. Or else... you're gonna get it...
Point made. Thanks Smiley

You better give me positive trust right now else I'm going to kill your dog.

Please delete this post and dont threadjack I'd like badbear to see my latest post.

Just PM him if you want him to remove you from his trust list, I doubt he will deny your request.

I want him to see that whole post because quickseller is claiming that I am an alt of those accounts and I'm not (check my trust for reference)

His feedback says you're either an alt or an associate of Plutonium & co. I'm not sure if you're the same person, there isn't conclusive evidence here, but there is good reason to think you were involved in his operations. You made many posts promoting his scheme and left him positive feedback. You also offered to get Plutonium to remove the negative trust he left me, which I'm not sure why you would have done if you didn't have some sort of relationship with him:
O shit, he negged you? Want me to try and get him to remove it?

You should have known you were staking your reputation by endorsing his scam.

I messaged him and convinced him because it wasnt right then he gave you negative trust. Also, I'm not involved or an alt of the bitcoinstocks ponzi, I only supported it because it kept paying me out. I didn't support it when it stopped sending.

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