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July 11, 2012, 09:35:13 PM
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Damn...

"You know the internet kill switch given to Obama at the start of his Presidency, this is part of that infrastructure. On Monday they are testing it, or rather I should write "arming" it."

http://www.iberianet.com/forum/false-flag-alert---important---internet-kill/article_9033dfe2-c986-11e1-98f7-001a4bcf887a.html

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July 11, 2012, 09:50:32 PM
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Time to switch to Tor?

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July 11, 2012, 09:53:22 PM
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Time to switch to Tor?

No. Time to lay down some wire.

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July 11, 2012, 09:57:02 PM
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Time to switch to Tor?

No. Time to lay down some wire.

Time to add routing to piratebox

Scrapped an entire post, because it said essentially this.

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July 11, 2012, 10:01:29 PM
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Time to switch to Tor?

No. Time to lay down some wire.

Time to add routing to piratebox

On it! (not really)

I would say, "Time to start investing in and developing long range wireless communications hard and software." but wireless jamming is far too easy.

This takes us back to
Time to lay down some wire.
or "Time to find a new method of wireless communication."

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July 11, 2012, 10:04:22 PM
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I may give away a business idea here but what about a "phone" service as transport layer for the bitcoin protocol? Does that even make sense (because of bandwidth limitations).
I don't know how intimately internet and phone services are connected, but I guess this would bypass a kill switch for the internet.

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July 11, 2012, 10:05:49 PM
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I would say, "Time to start investing in and developing long range wireless communications hard and software." but wireless jamming is far too easy.

They would have to jam every wifi router everywhere. Not what you would call a popular move.

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July 11, 2012, 10:15:51 PM
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Time to switch to Tor?

No. Time to lay down some wire.

Time to add routing to piratebox

No need too, we already have out of the box solutions...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.A.T.M.A.N.

https://launchpad.net/robin

http://wirelessmeshnetworksblog.blogspot.com.es/2010/04/r.html

http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=108212&sid=947dc4ba2daee968b27a34d1da7ce44d

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July 11, 2012, 10:17:29 PM
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I think a fully alternative decentralized internet is needed in the long run. Tor and freenet are great, but they're built on existing physical infrastructure.

A p2p wireless meshnet is what we really need.
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July 11, 2012, 10:22:35 PM
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a couple of brief googlings rewarded me no recent articles on the subject.

I am aware, however, of a virus that is so widespread that when the govt caught the operator, the servers were subsequently maintained by the government temporarily. I am also aware that the govt will issue a timeline on the maintenance of these computers.

If this article is refering to the above scenario, it sounds to me like a conspiracy theory. Granted, occasionally those are needed.
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July 11, 2012, 10:25:43 PM
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I am aware, however, of a virus that is so widespread that when the govt caught the operator, the servers are maintained by the government temporarily. I am also aware that the govt will issue a timeline on the maintenance of these computers.

Even without the conspiracy, the information that there is an openly government-maintained botnet should be worrisome.

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July 11, 2012, 10:28:53 PM
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I am aware, however, of a virus that is so widespread that when the govt caught the operator, the servers are maintained by the government temporarily. I am also aware that the govt will issue a timeline on the maintenance of these computers.

Even without the conspiracy, the information that there is an openly government-maintained botnet should be worrisome.

Good point.
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July 11, 2012, 10:29:51 PM
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We need our own communication satellites. I would send one up and sell small parts of the surface and call it a sovereign nation.

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July 11, 2012, 11:23:13 PM
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I think a fully alternative decentralized internet is needed in the long run. Tor and freenet are great, but they're built on existing physical infrastructure.

A p2p wireless meshnet is what we really need.

How do you propose to setup a global meshnet? Because that's what you want, right? Or at least the mesh should overlap with uncontrolled landlines which connect to the rest of the internet...

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July 11, 2012, 11:30:01 PM
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The Internet is bigger than the USA, perhaps you should note that.

This seems on face value to affect US citizens similar to that of the great Chinese Firewall.

One last time, the USA isnt the INTERNET.

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July 11, 2012, 11:31:04 PM
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I think a fully alternative decentralized internet is needed in the long run. Tor and freenet are great, but they're built on existing physical infrastructure.

A p2p wireless meshnet is what we really need.

How do you propose to setup a global meshnet? Because that's what you want, right? Or at least the mesh should overlap with uncontrolled landlines which connect to the rest of the internet...

Mesh cells in northern New Hampshire and Maine, as well as Seattle, can connect to corresponding cells in Canada. Likewise at the Mexico border. And this works for pretty much any border, since border cities are extremely common.

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July 11, 2012, 11:35:36 PM
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The Internet is bigger than the USA, perhaps you should note that.

This seems on face value to affect US citizens similar to that of the great Chinese Firewall.

One last time, the USA isnt the INTERNET.

Only, it kinda is. The US maintains most of the popular services most web users depend on most. A lot of people still have the USA is the greatest nation syndrome, but it doesn't change the fact that this will effect everyone globally.

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July 11, 2012, 11:38:02 PM
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The Internet is bigger than the USA, perhaps you should note that.

This seems on face value to affect US citizens similar to that of the great Chinese Firewall.

One last time, the USA isnt the INTERNET.

Only, it kinda is. The US maintains most of the popular services most web users depend on most. A lot of people still have the USA is the greatest nation syndrome, but it doesn't change the fact that this will effect everyone globally.

Im sure it will affect people globally but not as the topic suggest ie. internet kill switch.

Most services related to US hosted companies have seperate hosts for their international clients, google/microsoft/putbignamehere

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July 11, 2012, 11:40:06 PM
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I think a fully alternative decentralized internet is needed in the long run. Tor and freenet are great, but they're built on existing physical infrastructure.

A p2p wireless meshnet is what we really need.

How do you propose to setup a global meshnet? Because that's what you want, right? Or at least the mesh should overlap with uncontrolled landlines which connect to the rest of the internet...

Mesh cells in northern New Hampshire and Maine, as well as Seattle, can connect to corresponding cells in Canada. Likewise at the Mexico border. And this works for pretty much any border, since border cities are extremely common.

good. But I suspect if they are serious about a kill switch they'd also consider jamming any meshes in those places...

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July 11, 2012, 11:45:53 PM
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good. But I suspect if they are serious about a kill switch they'd also consider jamming any meshes in those places...

Well, when Egypt tried the kill-switch a while back, there were people providing wired access (ie international dial-up) across borders.

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