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in stead of throwing your toys, don't take it personal. you have the privilege to be reviewed and you have been given the opportunity to demonstrate your service quality. now you basically bitch and moan, eloquently - granted; but its still bitching and moaning.
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February 14, 2015, 04:20:24 PM Last edit: February 14, 2015, 04:39:18 PM by Get_Money |
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Overall a B rating... it is totally understandable that it is your personal opinion and we respect that. We will let community judge if it is a fair evaluation or not.
Again, thank you for the representation and looking forward to more detailed insights.
Yes, please judge FortuneJack fairly with more detailed insights from the community found here regarding withheld 54.9 BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=954601
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February 14, 2015, 05:12:29 PM |
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Trustworthiness is more or less understandable, you base it on time. Although it is a shame that most professional crypto casino run by a professional team with many years of experience in this industry, gets B- rating. Of course we understandthat it is your personal opinion and not based on any formula or evauation method.
Speaking of which, do you guys have a security bounty? How much do you pay for the responsible disclosure of a high-severity security bug that directly effects users? seems like youjust discovered a security flaw and ready to take on the bounty , goodluck with it ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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February 15, 2015, 11:47:39 AM |
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To be fair I haven't modified FJ's rating for a couple weeks when I really should have. However - the points espringe raises are completely valid. For now, I see no issue with a B rating. Remember, I have to work with limited information and I do not always have time to scan through every page of every single gambling site I review, I have to rely on my current BTC affairs knowledge and skimming quite a lot. Despite that, my reviews are generally quite accurate.
Updated the OP, as a note, to change some ratings. More will be changed soon.
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February 15, 2015, 05:52:33 PM |
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Request to have CoinRoyale added. Been around since September 2013. Provably Fair. Smooth and fast game play. Beautiful game design. Excellent customer service. Never had any unresolved withdrawal issue. Our thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=301480.0
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February 15, 2015, 06:21:40 PM |
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Great info in this thread. Referred by another member. Booking for future reference. Thanks for compiling!
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February 15, 2015, 08:26:41 PM |
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Great info in this thread. Referred by another member. Booking for future reference. Thanks for compiling!
Cheers! I'll look into CR. Obviously I have a decent amount going on at the moment.
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February 15, 2015, 09:30:35 PM |
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I wish there was something on the forum, that would not allow a questionable gambling casino to run a moderated thread.
Honestly, it's ridiculous that bitcointalk allows him to censor it the way it does. For instance, Dean's kelly calculations are actually off by around ~10% (when an investor does a 1x kelly, they're really doing about a 1.1x) we all know that maths isn't his strong point but instead of that coming to light he'd rather just delete it. Why anyone takes this guy seriously, is beyond me. Maybe, try posting it during the english sleeping time. 3 hours from now. Enough comments on your post will make it hard for him to delete them
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February 18, 2015, 05:41:28 PM |
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Overall a B rating... it is totally understandable that it is your personal opinion and we respect that. We will let community judge if it is a fair evaluation or not.
Again, thank you for the representation and looking forward to more detailed insights.
Yes, please judge FortuneJack fairly with more detailed insights from the community found here regarding withheld 54.9 BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=954601 We would like to announce that account hold on user Get_Money has been lifted. After careful inspection of this situation we have lifted the hold on user’s initial deposit as well as the winnings. User Get_Money can now access and withdraw his/her account on FortuneJack and claim winnings to the fullest. In total 54.98 BTC. For the past couple of days many questions have been asked and many allegations have been made towards our casino, while it is understandable that similar situations often cast doubt, community should also understand that as a professional crypto casino, we are obliged to take some security precautions in order to make sure that our system is 100% secure and fair. As a result of fraud investigation, no proof has been found that user Get_Money played and won in an unlawful and/or fraudulent way. Therefore, we would like to congratulate the winner and apologize for a delayed investigation. We do realize that such cases should be handled much faster and we assure you that we will try our best to increase the effectiveness of handling such situations, but you as users should also understand that fraud protection is a crucial part of any professional casino operation and it cannot and will not be eliminated. Let us state the questionable facts that led to this fraud investigation: 1. User played 3300 hands with 1200 loosing and 1100 winning stakes, got 2200% of profit over his initial deposit within 20 hours of playing. So he knew exactly when to bet high and when low. 2. While checking IP addresses, we concluded he was playing via VPN or Proxy server, as we had 4 different country IP’s listed in our database. User described his VPN decision as his privacy concern, while his emails stated name, middle name and surname fully (most probably fake) 3. User started playing with 2 BTC and low bets (0.05) and had a quite rapid rise to 17 BTC. We are not saying it is a fraud but fraud team HAS to look into this kind of bets, it is a requirement which some people fail to understand. 4. Again, individually none of these facts are enough for fraud inspections, but these facts combined together with minor ones like: specific wallet for gambling on FortuneJack, being a high roller with no bitcointalk account (and then suddenly registering), raised the need for fraud inspection. We could not exclude the possibility of player knowing the card outcome before cards were dealt. We had to check our system for possible bugs and glitches. Lots of people criticizing FortuneJack are not familiar with casino operations and will never understand standards behind it, but we want to assure you that we acted following all international standards of fraud protection. Since its foundation FortuneJack has been dedicated to bringing highest standards of professionalism and fairness to the crypto-currency gambling industry and we won’t accept unfair allegations from people who have 0 knowledge in the subject and have more trust in the user who registered several days ago than in a brand that never had a single issue with the community before. Finally, to close this issue we congratulate the winner and apologize for delay in handling this situation. We are open to any additional questions you might have. FortuneJack Management Team
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February 19, 2015, 02:37:17 AM |
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My suggested changes: Primedice: A+ for reliability to A-. Maybe I just have bad luck, but the site has issues far often than most. But I'd also bump overall score to A+. Luckybit: I think they deserve an A+ for trustworthyness, mainly because the game is on chain and they don't have accounts. They require you to trust them a lot less. PrimeDice: Should have an F- for trustworthyness. Another day, and another insider realizes it: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/f0lmlb6l9q465kn/vb5v_6t_.png (screenshoted, for when Dean deletes it). As far as I know, he's never stolen anyone's money -- but it's undeniable that he's a compulsive liar. I don't think Dean is a scammer, or has bad intentions -- but we need to hold operators to a much higher standard. Satoshi Dice: Should have trust downgraded a notch, and score downgraded a few notches. The site is attractive, but the edge is too high and all my experiences with it have been plagued with problems and strangenesses with my balance. I'd also add bitdice.me to the list -- it's a very well done site, definitely in the top three sites to dice (JD, PD and bitdice.me) I think you mean Pocket Rockets Melds was making many accounts to farm the site's faucet, it's pretty understandable why he limited Melds' withdraw
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Alright. I will consider all of these when I make my next update to the list. ATM I have a lot of stuff going on so I haven't had the time to sit down and spend some time on the thread, but I will try to ASAP as it is getting a decent amount of attention now.
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Thank you for this thread, the information us super useful. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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April 07, 2015, 03:32:30 PM |
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Thank you for this thread, the information us super useful. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) This overview need to be updated at present, too many new gambling sites out there, besides, the list is incomplete because I remember there was a popular funny site like luckybit called statoshicircle that's not in the list. PS. it's a old site back in 2013.
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May 03, 2015, 10:42:09 PM |
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Thanks for compiling the list. I would like to protest our trustworthiness rating, though. We're on-chain, which means that additionally to being provably fair, everything we do is 100% transparent and public as it's recorded in the blockchain for ever. Additionally, we never hold customer funds.
As a result, we never had a customer complaint or have been facing founded scam accusations. Just see the comments in this thread: after operating for over one year, we're one of the most trusted gambling sites out there!
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Thanks for compiling the list. I would like to protest our trustworthiness rating, though. We're on-chain, which means that additionally to being provably fair, everything we do is 100% transparent and public as it's recorded in the blockchain for ever. Additionally, we never hold customer funds.
As a result, we never had a customer complaint or have been facing founded scam accusations. Just see the comments in this thread: after operating for over one year, we're one of the most trusted gambling sites out there!
Sorry, ain't checked this in a while. I will <work> on updating it but I can't guarantee the speed of that. Please don't take A- as a bad Trustworthiness rating, it's still a top-tier rating and LuckyBit still comes out to an A overall which is the highest rating I've decided to give so far. I'll have a look and may decide to up that based on time that has passed - obviously I can't guarantee I'll increase it as this is designed to be a fair thread, not a thread where I change ratings at the request of website staff/owners. I do like LuckyBit, though. I will consider updating.
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If you do update the list, could you rename MoneyPot to bustabit (it underwent a domain change, but under same ownership and same accounts etc.) I'll second LuckyB.it trustworthiness rating being improved to an A+. As they have no investors, and have every bet occur in public it is both exceedingly hard for them to cheat (without being seen) and all the incentives aligned for them to operate legitimately. Also it appears that satoshidice hasn't been responding to support issues for at least a couple months ( source), so you might want to update the chart to reflect them or just remove them until they're back in action
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Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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If you do update the list, could you rename MoneyPot to bustabit (it underwent a domain change, but under same ownership and same accounts etc.) I'll second LuckyB.it trustworthiness rating being improved to an A+. As they have no investors, and have every bet occur in public it is both exceedingly hard for them to cheat (without being seen) and all the incentives aligned for them to operate legitimately. Also it appears that satoshidice hasn't been responding to support issues for at least a couple months ( source), so you might want to update the chart to reflect them or just remove them until they're back in action A'ight. I'll take those all into account when I update it (probably tomorrow as it's a bit late for me now). Thanks for all of your info, I appreciate it as it's a pain to have to check through all these websites to see any changes or complaints.
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Thread update - 28th May 2015
Some small changes:
- Increased LuckyBit's Trustworthiness to A, pending *possible* increase to A+ after a little bit more investigation. - Renamed MoneyPot to bustabit.
Some other things I'll hopefully do later today:
- Review SatoshiDICE's Reliability rating. - Re-check thread sizes. - Adjust Trustworthiness for most websites due to length online.
And *maybe* I will add a new site or two. Thinking DADICE as one.
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Be sure to read this about DaDice: Recent dadice.com development. They don't want to show us proof of their reserves (aka. sharing their cold wallet address), which is sketchy IMO.
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DiamondCardz (OP)
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May 28, 2015, 07:00:09 AM |
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Be sure to read this about DaDice: Recent dadice.com development. They don't want to show us proof of their reserves (aka. sharing their cold wallet address). Already one step ahead of you mate ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . Appreciate the notification, though! I can't see everything the moment it comes up so it's nice to have people make me aware of recent developments.
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BA Computer Science, University of Oxford Dissertation was about threat modelling on distributed ledgers.
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