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June 03, 2015, 04:58:49 PM
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Hello DiamondCardz, if you could review us in a couple months (if you are still doing this service) that would be great. The industry needs more people like you who are willing to give their time like this.

Thank you,

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Sure. Once you reach 25 pages on your main thread I'll add you to my list of gambling websites to add, though it's likely by the time you reach 25 pages on your main thread I'll have added all of the websites on my list so there shouldn't really be much of a delay. Feel free to message me if I do miss you out after you've reached 25 pages.

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June 03, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
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Hello DiamondCardz, if you could review us in a couple months (if you are still doing this service) that would be great. The industry needs more people like you who are willing to give their time like this.

Thank you,

Bjorn

Sure. Once you reach 25 pages on your main thread I'll add you to my list of gambling websites to add, though it's likely by the time you reach 25 pages on your main thread I'll have added all of the websites on my list so there shouldn't really be much of a delay. Feel free to message me if I do miss you out after you've reached 25 pages.

Sounds great, I'll keep a note of this thread for when the time comes and we have ironed out our post launch bugs. I'd rather you have a pristine Casino anyway before sending you some btc to test Smiley Keep it up!

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June 03, 2015, 05:06:46 PM
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Hello DiamondCardz, if you could review us in a couple months (if you are still doing this service) that would be great. The industry needs more people like you who are willing to give their time like this.

Thank you,

Bjorn

Sure. Once you reach 25 pages on your main thread I'll add you to my list of gambling websites to add, though it's likely by the time you reach 25 pages on your main thread I'll have added all of the websites on my list so there shouldn't really be much of a delay. Feel free to message me if I do miss you out after you've reached 25 pages.

before sending you some btc to test Smiley

Just so you're aware that'd be your choice and would have absolutely no effect on your ratings, right? I don't want anyone to start getting false ideas and start thinking that they can buy ratings on this thread Wink But yeah, do send me a PM once you've got to that point, because I most likely won't remember otherwise and there's a loooot of gambling sites out there to have to sift through.

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June 03, 2015, 05:11:07 PM
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Hello DiamondCardz, if you could review us in a couple months (if you are still doing this service) that would be great. The industry needs more people like you who are willing to give their time like this.

Thank you,

Bjorn

Sure. Once you reach 25 pages on your main thread I'll add you to my list of gambling websites to add, though it's likely by the time you reach 25 pages on your main thread I'll have added all of the websites on my list so there shouldn't really be much of a delay. Feel free to message me if I do miss you out after you've reached 25 pages.

before sending you some btc to test Smiley

Just so you're aware that'd be your choice and would have absolutely no effect on your ratings, right? I don't want anyone to start getting false ideas and start thinking that they can buy ratings on this thread Wink But yeah, do send me a PM once you've got to that point, because I most likely won't remember otherwise and there's a loooot of gambling sites out there to have to sift through.

Yes, not to bribe just for testing as it sometimes is difficult to judge performance from faucet alone. You can give it back to the house after done, lose it all, keep it (whatever you like) I only want fair reviews anyway which is why I like what you are doing here.

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October 26, 2015, 12:44:50 PM
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Going to start bringing this back up-to-date now, so keep an eye out for updates to this. First I need to check if all of the ratings are still accurate, then make adjustments.

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October 26, 2015, 01:53:03 PM
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Going to start bringing this back up-to-date now, so keep an eye out for updates to this. First I need to check if all of the ratings are still accurate, then make adjustments.

Nice. But is this thread meant to include all BTC gambling websites (poker, dice, all-round casinos etc)? If so, your list will grow significantly when updated, and it's going to be a whole lot of work to update it regularly.

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October 26, 2015, 02:42:42 PM
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Going to start bringing this back up-to-date now, so keep an eye out for updates to this. First I need to check if all of the ratings are still accurate, then make adjustments.

Nice. But is this thread meant to include all BTC gambling websites (poker, dice, all-round casinos etc)? If so, your list will grow significantly when updated, and it's going to be a whole lot of work to update it regularly.

Yep, there are hundreds of sites.. It is going to be pretty loooong. Even if it is made exclusive to dice sites, it would have some 25-50.
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October 26, 2015, 04:54:38 PM
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Well it is called an overview of popular Bitcoin gambling websites.

This is defined in the footer of the OP:

Note: I define a "popular" Bitcoin Gambling Website as one with a Bitcointalk thread with a size of over 25 pages (though I reserve the right to give some leniency). That doesn't actually necessarily mean it's popular, but it sorts out the ribble rabble and stops people screaming to add x y and z unknown sites. I also... [...]


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October 26, 2015, 08:51:50 PM
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Well it is called an overview of popular Bitcoin gambling websites.

This is defined in the footer of the OP:

Note: I define a "popular" Bitcoin Gambling Website as one with a Bitcointalk thread with a size of over 25 pages (though I reserve the right to give some leniency). That doesn't actually necessarily mean it's popular, but it sorts out the ribble rabble and stops people screaming to add x y and z unknown sites. I also... [...]


Yes, I've seen the footer, but 25 pages doesn't mean much. Here's an example of poker site with 48 pages thread, but they never got traction and went out of business:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1000860.0

So are you planning to review all kinds of gambling (including poker)? It's tricky to apply the same criteria to poker and dice sites.

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October 28, 2015, 04:02:29 AM
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Going to start bringing this back up-to-date now, so keep an eye out for updates to this. First I need to check if all of the ratings are still accurate, then make adjustments.

Roger that thanks for reviving it there are a lot of gambling services out there so having an updated list would be useful.

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November 07, 2015, 01:22:40 PM
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Here it is.

- Increased PrimeDice's Features to an A-.
- Increased PrimeDice's Overall to an A+ (first gambling site to get it!)
- Renamed CasinoBitco.in to BitcoinRush.
- Decreased BitcoinRush's Trustworthiness to an A due to a bit of riff-raff regarding the advertising of house edge on one of their games.
- Unable to accurately review AnoniBet for now due to a country block.
- Fixed Betcoin Network link. -> https://goo.gl/pFz97Y
- Increased FortuneJack's Trustworthiness to an A- due to age. I will be further reviewing their other scores and it's likely they will move up to A- overall.
- Fixed all page lengths.

Please point out anything I haven't yet done, or anything broken.

There are further reviews to be made as I do not feel the list is wholly accurate yet. It is still a tiny bit old.

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New update (therefore a double post as it's a bit significant):

- Added gambling website Crypto-Games.
- Stats:
- Trustworthiness: A-
- Reliability: A
- Promotions: A-
- Features: A+
- Overall: A

Long review: Crypto-Games is essentially a casino with a wide variety of games. They've been around since 2014 and their thread is decently large now, so while they're not rubbing necks with the most trustworthy sites quite yet, they're still decently trustworthy. However, for me, the site shines with its promotions and features. I love the military rank-based level system, where you can see yourself level up through the ranks taking into account what you've wagered, invested, your referral commissions and more. In fact, at level 30 (the highest level) you get a ridiculous 0.00020500 per faucet request with 60 requests a day. Right now, that's about $5 a day from the faucet alone at the highest level, and while it's tough to get there, that's not too bad at all. You also have a bunch of promotions such as 0% house edge on games for periods of time, of course the faucet and level system, and they're constantly adding new games and coins. This site isn't the oldest, but it definitely earns an A. The only thing holding it back, in my opinion, is the fact that it looks a little messy. That's not something I like to rate sites on, though, so I haven't really taken that into account.



I'll admit, I have a bit of a soft spot for level systems with military ranks in them. I hope you'll agree with me largely here though that they deserve the A+ for features as this was a close call. Full disclosure, too, I'll likely be taking a signature ad with them tomorrow and while looking at them I noticed they had a thread with >25 pages. I've tried to avoid bias. Smiley

I'm also making a move to make the long reviews for websites much more substantial as I think some of them were quite rushed, as you can see. I will be working through and bringing them up to the level of this one throughout next week. Thanks!

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November 07, 2015, 09:10:56 PM
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As someone who's played on all of these sites and more, my meta review

PrimeDice = Fair Review
777Coin = Fair Review
BitcoinRush = Trust should be dropped even further. See bitcoinrush.com for example
LuckyBit = Underrated, they should be increased in trust
Crypto-Games = wtf? Did you see how they handled the +EV betting? They should be D- at best
DirectBet = The site sucks, I would lower their site rating considerably. But seems like a fair review
PocketRocketsCasino = Trust should be dropped much more, can't think of a bigger liar
NitrogenSports = Fair Review
AnoniBet = Fair Review
bustabit = Fair Review
FortuneJack = Trust should be dropped further, after their stats faking
SatoshiDice = Fair Review, although they should just get a F for all fields.
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November 07, 2015, 09:14:49 PM
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BitcoinRush = Trust should be dropped even further. See bitcoinrush.com for example
Crypto-Games = wtf? Did you see how they handled the +EV betting? They should be D- at best
PocketRocketsCasino = Trust should be dropped much more, can't think of a bigger liar
FortuneJack = Trust should be dropped further, after their stats faking

Will investigate all of these. LuckyBit will stay on an A for trustworthiness for the time being. I should note that's still very good, they definitely aren't lacking in that area - I just don't feel they rub necks with PrimeDice and 777Coin in that regard.

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November 07, 2015, 09:41:17 PM
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Okay, I definitely agree with you on BitcoinRush. That's not something that should ever be done and it's definitely dirty. However, I feel in all other areas they are still trustworthy and they did reply to him, so I will only be dropping their trustworthiness by one fine grade, and that was 3 months ago. I'll review the overall in a few days.

I read up on the Crypto-Games issue a bit and I'm currently getting CG's side of the story from one of their staff. Their rating will remain as-is for now. Edit: After discussing how they handled it, compensation given to investors to fix lost profit, etc, I am satisfied with the way they handled it. Trustworthiness remains the same IMHO, they handled it well, even if they appeared publicly to be a bit harsh.

PRC...well yes, Dean was trash previously. I feel like he's gotten his act together recently though. Trustworthiness for PRC is still only at a B+ and it will remain there, I have no plans to increase or decrease it.

I need a source for the FortuneJack stats faking, please.

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November 07, 2015, 09:54:08 PM
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Okay, I definitely agree with you on BitcoinRush. That's not something that should ever be done and it's definitely dirty. However, I feel in all other areas they are still trustworthy and they did reply to him, so I will only be dropping their trustworthiness by one fine grade, and that was 3 months ago. I'll review the overall in a few days.

I read up on the Crypto-Games issue a bit and I'm currently getting CG's side of the story from one of their staff. Their rating will remain as-is for now. Edit: After discussing how they handled it, compensation given to investors to fix lost profit, etc, I am satisfied with the way they handled it. Trustworthiness remains the same IMHO, they handled it well, even if they appeared publicly to be a bit harsh.

PRC...well yes, Dean was trash previously. I feel like he's gotten his act together recently though. Trustworthiness for PRC is still only at a B+ and it will remain there, I have no plans to increase or decrease it.

I need a source for the FortuneJack stats faking, please.

No idea what you base this on.
PRC is the most trusted Bitcoin dice site and that's a fact.
No other site looks after as many Bitcoin of players/investors as PRC does and there's never been any issues with cashouts or losses.
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November 07, 2015, 10:09:38 PM
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Okay, I definitely agree with you on BitcoinRush. That's not something that should ever be done and it's definitely dirty. However, I feel in all other areas they are still trustworthy and they did reply to him, so I will only be dropping their trustworthiness by one fine grade, and that was 3 months ago. I'll review the overall in a few days.

I read up on the Crypto-Games issue a bit and I'm currently getting CG's side of the story from one of their staff. Their rating will remain as-is for now. Edit: After discussing how they handled it, compensation given to investors to fix lost profit, etc, I am satisfied with the way they handled it. Trustworthiness remains the same IMHO, they handled it well, even if they appeared publicly to be a bit harsh.

PRC...well yes, Dean was trash previously. I feel like he's gotten his act together recently though. Trustworthiness for PRC is still only at a B+ and it will remain there, I have no plans to increase or decrease it.

I need a source for the FortuneJack stats faking, please.

No idea what you base this on.
PRC is the most trusted Bitcoin dice site and that's a fact.
No other site looks after as many Bitcoin of players/investors as PRC does and there's never been any issues with cashouts or losses.

If I had to rate you as you are right now you'd probably get an A for trustworthiness. The reason you're a B+ is because I don't agree with what you did in the past (mostly regarding your dealings with BAC). That was shitty.

@ETTKS: Found the bitcointalk posts for FJ's stats faking and I just don't feel like any damage was done there. It's not significant enough to me to warrant a change in the trust level.


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November 07, 2015, 10:10:53 PM
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Hi @DiamondCardz - Nice reviews. Could you please add just-dice review?

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November 07, 2015, 10:12:45 PM
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Hi @DiamondCardz - Nice reviews. Could you please add just-dice review?

Thread title says "Bitcoin Gambling Websites" and last I checked just-dice ran on CLAM,
they wouldn't fit in the overview, would they?

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November 07, 2015, 10:12:52 PM
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Hi @DiamondCardz - Nice reviews. Could you please add just-dice review?

No can do, sorry bud. It's been suggested many times, but as Just-Dice is now an altcoin gambling website that uses CLAM as their currency of choice, and this is an overview for Bitcoin gambling websites in a non-altcoin section, I won't be adding Just-Dice to the list. Sorry.

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