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January 25, 2015, 05:31:38 PM
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The fastest way is Stockmarket, you can earn good profit without big risk
Bitcoin is too dangerous, especially with price stability

How do you earn "good profit without big risk" in the stockmarket? tell us what do you specifically? That sounds like a joke to me.

Illegally with insider trading or manipulating the markets... In other words , the game is rigged and the house maintains the edge.

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January 25, 2015, 06:32:26 PM
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Leverage trade whatever markets are moving.  I'll trade anything that I can profit off of.  EUR/USD is a cash cow right now. 
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January 26, 2015, 12:03:58 AM
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Leverage trade whatever markets are moving.  I'll trade anything that I can profit off of.  EUR/USD is a cash cow right now. 
Leverage is too scary. If price goes low you can be in debt. That.. I do not want. Unless you get a loan.. you will not be in debt if you lose your BTC.
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January 26, 2015, 12:44:00 AM
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Hi i've been looking for investments. please tell me where is the fastest way to earn money. is it bitcoin or stockmarket? from todays point of view. Please respect my post, thank you!

Find an idea and start a business. You can offcours also accept bitcoins, but probably you will not list your business on stock exchange.
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January 26, 2015, 02:21:00 AM
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Hi i've been looking for investments. please tell me where is the fastest way to earn money. is it bitcoin or stockmarket? from todays point of view. Please respect my post, thank you!

What part of the stock market? One can't buy shares of "the stock market" so the comparison isn't fair. It's a great question though. I'm glad I didn't choose BTC over traditional investments last year though...

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January 26, 2015, 06:02:04 AM
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The fastest way is Stockmarket, you can earn good profit without big risk
Bitcoin is too dangerous, especially with price stability


If it was that easy , everyone in the world is a millionaire right , don't you think .
I totally disagree here dude  , Bitcoin is a lot less dangerous then stocks because we know that Bitcoin will rise sooner or later (while Block reward decreasing over the years ) but for stocks market ... meh , you should read books etc about economics it's really not that easy.

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January 27, 2015, 02:08:05 PM
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It all depends on what your goal of using the technology is.

Investing in Bitcoin:

- Has the potential to net you some nice tidy fiat sums if the tech becomes very popular. Once full implementation and all coins have been minted/dispersed your chances of returning a handsome profit decrease.

Investing in Bitcoin Stock market:

- Provided there was one, you would have public assurance and protection from a highly regulated industry. You could earn tidy profits given your financial market prowess and guessing skills.

Perhaps buying BTC short-term (5-10 years)
BTC stock market (if created) long-term (10+ years)

The problem will be if BTC goes the way of public or private. Currently the tech is public, but all business surrounding it is mostly private.
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January 27, 2015, 02:50:09 PM
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The fastest way is Stockmarket, you can earn good profit without big risk
Bitcoin is too dangerous, especially with price stability


If it was that easy , everyone in the world is a millionaire right , don't you think .
I totally disagree here dude  , Bitcoin is a lot less dangerous then stocks because we know that Bitcoin will rise sooner or later (while Block reward decreasing over the years ) but for stocks market ... meh , you should read books etc about economics it's really not that easy.

Well you also can count on stocks like CocaCola, Apple or Microsoft to continue gaining strenght over years.
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January 27, 2015, 03:12:15 PM
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Well you also can count on stocks like CocaCola, Apple or Microsoft to continue gaining strenght over years.

Why would you assume that? What percentage of fortune 500 companies maintain dominance today vs 50 years ago?

Most People would laugh at you if you suggested Kodak would need to file for bankruptcy 20 years ago.
Look how quickly history has unfolded though and how a small finish company out of nowhere was able to outsell cameras within 1 year.

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January 27, 2015, 04:37:30 PM
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For the vast majority of people, a good investment would be a low fee index tracking fund.
This a long article, but I believe the advice is sound http://www.modernluxury.com/san-francisco/story/the-best-investment-advice-youll-never-get

Single stock trading or Bitcoin trading is highly speculative - only trade money which you can afford to lose - since it is likely you'll lose money and a few people will make money. Those who lose will blame bad luck, those who win will attribute it to super-human powers of deduction, the truth will probably lay somewhere in the middle. However, if you're willing to take risk, then you can definitely make money on any asset that is volatile and Bitcoin currently fits this description!
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January 27, 2015, 08:00:44 PM
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depends on the kind of stock, bitcoin is a high risk investment
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January 28, 2015, 01:11:20 AM
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Well you also can count on stocks like CocaCola, Apple or Microsoft to continue gaining strenght over years.

Why would you assume that? What percentage of fortune 500 companies maintain dominance today vs 50 years ago?

Most People would laugh at you if you suggested Kodak would need to file for bankruptcy 20 years ago.
Look how quickly history has unfolded though and how a small finish company out of nowhere was able to outsell cameras within 1 year.
Yup, but we are talking at least 10 years in time and monopolies of CocaCola as king of drinks and Apple and Microsoft as king of computers have 0, 0, absolutely 0 real competence. Pepsi? Linux? Lol, not gonna happen. These are safe.
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January 28, 2015, 03:11:46 AM
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Leverage trade whatever markets are moving.  I'll trade anything that I can profit off of.  EUR/USD is a cash cow right now. 
Leverage is too scary. If price goes low you can be in debt. That.. I do not want. Unless you get a loan.. you will not be in debt if you lose your BTC.

It's not scary at all, just don't walk away from the computer without a stop loss in place.  I open up 200x positions before bed and sleep like a baby. 
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January 28, 2015, 03:20:00 AM
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Well you also can count on stocks like CocaCola, Apple or Microsoft to continue gaining strenght over years.

Why would you assume that? What percentage of fortune 500 companies maintain dominance today vs 50 years ago?

Most People would laugh at you if you suggested Kodak would need to file for bankruptcy 20 years ago.
Look how quickly history has unfolded though and how a small finish company out of nowhere was able to outsell cameras within 1 year.
Yup, but we are talking at least 10 years in time and monopolies of CocaCola as king of drinks and Apple and Microsoft as king of computers have 0, 0, absolutely 0 real competence. Pepsi? Linux? Lol, not gonna happen. These are safe.


i thought pepsi co. was already worth more than coke ?
but i cant drink pepsi ,il always go for coke if theres a choice Smiley
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January 28, 2015, 11:24:19 AM
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Well you also can count on stocks like CocaCola, Apple or Microsoft to continue gaining strenght over years.

Why would you assume that? What percentage of fortune 500 companies maintain dominance today vs 50 years ago?

Most People would laugh at you if you suggested Kodak would need to file for bankruptcy 20 years ago.
Look how quickly history has unfolded though and how a small finish company out of nowhere was able to outsell cameras within 1 year.
Yup, but we are talking at least 10 years in time and monopolies of CocaCola as king of drinks and Apple and Microsoft as king of computers have 0, 0, absolutely 0 real competence. Pepsi? Linux? Lol, not gonna happen. These are safe.


i thought pepsi co. was already worth more than coke ?
but i cant drink pepsi ,il always go for coke if theres a choice Smiley

Investing in coke was a great investment in any previous decade.

pepsi market cap 145 Billions, coke 185 Billions
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January 28, 2015, 11:46:05 AM
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Well you also can count on stocks like CocaCola, Apple or Microsoft to continue gaining strenght over years.

Why would you assume that? What percentage of fortune 500 companies maintain dominance today vs 50 years ago?

Most People would laugh at you if you suggested Kodak would need to file for bankruptcy 20 years ago.
Look how quickly history has unfolded though and how a small finish company out of nowhere was able to outsell cameras within 1 year.
Yup, but we are talking at least 10 years in time and monopolies of CocaCola as king of drinks and Apple and Microsoft as king of computers have 0, 0, absolutely 0 real competence. Pepsi? Linux? Lol, not gonna happen. These are safe.


i thought pepsi co. was already worth more than coke ?
but i cant drink pepsi ,il always go for coke if theres a choice Smiley

Investing in coke was a great investment in any previous decade.

pepsi market cap 145 Billions, coke 185 Billions

very interesting reading :
Coca-Cola has a market capitalization of $170 billion. PepsiCo’s (NYSE: PEP) is almost $127 billion. PepsiCo’s revenue was $66 billion last year. Coca-Cola’s was $47 billion. A deeper look into the two companies shows the valuation debate gets even more confusing.

http://247wallst.com/consumer-products/2014/04/12/is-coke-worth-more-than-pepsi/

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January 28, 2015, 01:35:02 PM
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I prefer Bitcoin as long term investment.

I used to invest in stocks quite a bit some years back, but now only when certain stocks are real cheap.
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January 28, 2015, 02:10:42 PM
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I prefer Bitcoin as long term investment.

I used to invest in stocks quite a bit some years back, but now only when certain stocks are real cheap.

It is better to own bitcoins or stocks that fiat, the idea is to save and keep investing in different vehicules that are protected against inflation and have low fees.
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January 30, 2015, 06:43:06 PM
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I prefer Bitcoin as long term investment.

I used to invest in stocks quite a bit some years back, but now only when certain stocks are real cheap.

It is better to own bitcoins or stocks that fiat, the idea is to save and keep investing in different vehicules that are protected against inflation and have low fees.
Unless you are very rich and can make money easily with bank interest, its just useless to have your poor man fiat in the bank, bitcoin and stocks is better if you want to gain interest and not die waiting for any relevant gains (bank interest is so damn low)
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January 30, 2015, 10:32:13 PM
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with stocks people are very happy with a 10% gain in a year. most people in crypto want instant 50-100% profits.
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