russianptr (OP)
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January 20, 2015, 11:59:41 AM |
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Hey guys, I need a 0.060 BTC Loan. Terms:- amount: 0.060 BTC
- duration: 6 days
- interest: 20 %
BTC address: 134wtUKt11PCDVoQwhVbSnzCR9UQ5oGppVI will buy the BTC to pay you back. (you only have the counterparty risk of dealing with me, but no risk if my investment goes belly up, because I´ll buy the BTC anyway) If you´ve got any questions, lmk.
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lihuajkl
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January 20, 2015, 12:27:03 PM |
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Any collateral?
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Muhammed Zakir
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January 20, 2015, 12:51:26 PM |
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Hey guys, I need a 0.060 BTC Loan. Terms:- amount: 0.060 BTC
- duration: 6 days
- interest: 20 %
BTC address: 134wtUKt11PCDVoQwhVbSnzCR9UQ5oGppVI will buy the BTC to pay you back. (you only have the counterparty risk of dealing with me, but no risk if my investment goes belly up, because I´ll buy the BTC anyway) If you´ve got any questions, lmk. What do you mean by "you only have the counterparty risk of dealing with me" ? ~~MZ~~
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russianptr (OP)
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January 20, 2015, 01:56:50 PM |
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Hey guys, I need a 0.060 BTC Loan. Terms:- amount: 0.060 BTC
- duration: 6 days
- interest: 20 %
BTC address: 134wtUKt11PCDVoQwhVbSnzCR9UQ5oGppVI will buy the BTC to pay you back. (you only have the counterparty risk of dealing with me, but no risk if my investment goes belly up, because I´ll buy the BTC anyway) If you´ve got any questions, lmk. What do you mean by "you only have the counterparty risk of dealing with me" ? ~~MZ~~ in a usual loan you have 2 risks: -the lender disappearing with the BTC -the lender doesn´t want to disappear with your BTC and is honest, but can´t pay you back anyway because he loses the loan amount In my loan at least the second risk is eliminated because I am going to buy BTC regardless of what happens with the 60 mBTC I get from you or someone different. But of course you still have to trust me regarding the first point, that I´m honest and intend to pay you back. Hope you understand what I want to say
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nkocevar
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January 20, 2015, 02:23:25 PM |
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Wait so there is no collateral?
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Blazr
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January 20, 2015, 03:16:23 PM |
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I can give you this loan. However, I will need to hold your bitcointalk.org account as collateral. And I will need you to prove the account isn't hacked by signing the following message with this Bitcoin address: 1BVeSTQzSvf7D9NJVmtLKvLjUZnwtSiDih "Today's date is January 20th 2015, and I am in control of the bitcointalk.org account russianptr. The account has not been sold or compromised and I am willing to use it as collateral for a loan." Instructions on how to do this here: http://blog.anonymousads.com/2014/03/new-feature-sign-in-with-your-bitcoin.htmlYou posted this Bitcoin address here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829497.msg9380635#msg9380635 I need you to sign this message to prove the account isn't hacked and you are the original owner. Once you sign the message, you will need to PM me your bitcointalk.org password, or give it to a third party escrow if you do not trust me (we will have to choose an escrow we both trust). Once I or an escrow has control of the account, I will fund the loan in full, and once it is paid back in full you will be given back the account. Loan details are as follows: Total loan amount: 0.06BTC Total amount to be paid back: 0.072BTC Due date: 27th January 2015 Repayment address: to be provided later in a PGP signed message
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nkocevar
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January 20, 2015, 03:19:58 PM |
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I can give you this loan. However, I will need to hold your bitcointalk.org account as collateral. And I will need you to prove the account isn't hacked by signing the following message with this Bitcoin address: 1BVeSTQzSvf7D9NJVmtLKvLjUZnwtSiDih "Today's date is January 20th 2015, and I am in control of the bitcointalk.org account russianptr. The account has not been sold or compromised and I am willing to use it as collateral for a loan." Instructions on how to do this here: http://blog.anonymousads.com/2014/03/new-feature-sign-in-with-your-bitcoin.htmlYou posted this Bitcoin address here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829497.msg9380635#msg9380635 I need you to sign this message to prove the account isn't hacked and you are the original owner. Once you sign the message, you will need to PM me your bitcointalk.org password, or give it to a third party escrow if you do not trust me (we will have to choose an escrow we both trust). Once I or an escrow has control of the account, I will fund the loan in full, and once it is paid back in full you will be given back the account. Loan details are as follows: Total loan amount: 0.06BTC Total amount to be paid back: 0.072BTC Due date: 27th January 2015 Repayment address: to be provided later in a PGP signed message This is brilliant. I never even thought to do this xD
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russianptr (OP)
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January 20, 2015, 03:46:37 PM |
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I can give you this loan. However, I will need to hold your bitcointalk.org account as collateral. And I will need you to prove the account isn't hacked by signing the following message with this Bitcoin address: 1BVeSTQzSvf7D9NJVmtLKvLjUZnwtSiDih "Today's date is January 20th 2015, and I am in control of the bitcointalk.org account russianptr. The account has not been sold or compromised and I am willing to use it as collateral for a loan." Instructions on how to do this here: http://blog.anonymousads.com/2014/03/new-feature-sign-in-with-your-bitcoin.htmlYou posted this Bitcoin address here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829497.msg9380635#msg9380635 I need you to sign this message to prove the account isn't hacked and you are the original owner. Once you sign the message, you will need to PM me your bitcointalk.org password, or give it to a third party escrow if you do not trust me (we will have to choose an escrow we both trust). Once I or an escrow has control of the account, I will fund the loan in full, and once it is paid back in full you will be given back the account. Loan details are as follows: Total loan amount: 0.06BTC Total amount to be paid back: 0.072BTC Due date: 27th January 2015 Repayment address: to be provided later in a PGP signed message this is indeed a brilliant way Thank you! So I use electrum and I signed the message with the address you requested and get the following output: G1ByohlOd0e433u6BkFj3IrqilwhfkxxjOd5Sz4Rjfh1CPBR6ewjStMZGNjx/DpdWNKZVpYRilZpPaTQSYQnx/0= Is this enough or how do I make it appear on the blockchain? this is how it looks for me:
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Blazr
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January 20, 2015, 04:04:52 PM |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
The following Bitcoin address is the repayment address for a 0.06BTC loan from BlazrBank to russianptr:
1PNCJcyVjP8TiYRSgHxdU5GsNY54oR84aB
Loan details: Total loan amount: 0.06BTC Total amount to be paid back: 0.072BTC Due date: 27th January 2015 Collateral: russianptr Bitcointalk account -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1
iEYEARECAAYFAlS+fEoACgkQXDSsdikWM5P1cgCg5Z6+R+vgBR5q2KG4UZh/RBnD HOAAoMBIbwfQNdb7DjwKZrwlJqSUrD92 =L2qU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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russianptr (OP)
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January 20, 2015, 04:05:22 PM |
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sent you my account details. Do I need to contact you to get my account back after repayment? Or will you simply change back the password to the password I supplied you with after you the repayment in your wallet?
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russianptr (OP)
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January 20, 2015, 04:13:35 PM |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is Blazr. The account russianptr is now under my control for the duration of the loan. sent you my account details. Do I need to contact you to get my account back after repayment? Or will you simply change back the password to the password I supplied you with after you the repayment in your wallet?
I didn't think about that. I guess I will change it back to that password, thogu thats probably not the best way to do it. Feel free to email me blazr (@) blazrnet.com or you can create a new account to post if you need to contact me. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlS+fowACgkQXDSsdikWM5OwaACg5+pe9YM04KPDf2rHvsXXbSaz GewAn1tJlX1qmMOnUMKtZ35IaWTncwx4 =pjFH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Muhammed Zakir
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January 20, 2015, 05:18:57 PM |
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@Blazr : Please put a Bitcoin signed message in the signature of russianptr, so others can see it and avoid sending sensitive messages. ~~MZ~~
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russianptr (OP)
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January 20, 2015, 05:26:02 PM |
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@Blazr : Please put a Bitcoin signed message in the signature of russianptr, so others can see it and avoid sending sensitive messages. ~~MZ~~ Tried to fit a signature in it, couldn't get it to, so just placed an unsigned message with link to this thread. If this loan goes good I may give out more loans to others but I'll need to work out a better workflow than this!
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Muhammed Zakir
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January 20, 2015, 05:31:06 PM |
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Tried to fit a signature in it, couldn't get it to, so just placed an unsigned message with link to this thread. If this loan goes good I may give out more loans to others but I'll need to work out a better workflow than this! Is there some problem with the URL? Link isn't working for me. Try: [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930647.0][b]This account is being used as collateral for a loan and is currently under the control of Blazr.[/b][/url]
~~MZ~~
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russianptr (OP)
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January 20, 2015, 05:44:53 PM |
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It worked for me, I changed it anyway, it's definitely better to hyperlink it.
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Arnab biswas
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January 23, 2015, 07:08:19 AM |
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hey did the user payed back?
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Blazr
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January 23, 2015, 12:17:42 PM |
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hey did the user payed back?
Not yet, not due until the 27th.
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Blazr
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January 29, 2015, 06:39:17 PM |
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Well looks like it's overdue quite sad because the account can earn 0.035BTC/week from bitmixer signature campaign, so the account is clearly worth more than 0.072BTC. OP got a bad deal here. he could've probably sold it for more. The loan repayment will be fixed at 0.072BTC or $17 worth of BTC, whichever is greater. I'll hold onto the account for now as I don't like the idea of selling it or using it. I guess if OP doesn't buy it back I'll just abandon it.
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master-P
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January 30, 2015, 12:51:59 AM |
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Well looks like it's overdue quite sad because the account can earn 0.035BTC/week from bitmixer signature campaign, so the account is clearly worth more than 0.072BTC. OP got a bad deal here. he could've probably sold it for more. The loan repayment will be fixed at 0.072BTC or $17 worth of BTC, whichever is greater. I'll hold onto the account for now as I don't like the idea of selling it or using it. I guess if OP doesn't buy it back I'll just abandon it. Kinda sucks to see that anyone would just run away with such small amounts. Really deters me from wanting to give out loans to anyone. Hope he does come back though and repay the loan.
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izanagi narukami
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January 30, 2015, 03:17:31 AM |
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Well looks like it's overdue quite sad because the account can earn 0.035BTC/week from bitmixer signature campaign, so the account is clearly worth more than 0.072BTC. OP got a bad deal here. he could've probably sold it for more. The loan repayment will be fixed at 0.072BTC or $17 worth of BTC, whichever is greater. I'll hold onto the account for now as I don't like the idea of selling it or using it. I guess if OP doesn't buy it back I'll just abandon it. If OP doesn't get back, it means that you buy full member account with BTC 0.06. That's very cheap for my opinion. Just abandon it ? Better use it
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