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July 13, 2012, 03:11:54 PM
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This will be the offical thread for the potential upcoming litigation proceedings against the Bitcoinica Parties.


If you have been adversely affected by bitcoinica due to their potentially criminal negligence, please post here and email me any information you can provide, I will be going to see my

lawyer about our case tomorrow and I could use all the information regarding our legal position for a case.

(for reference, I lost 5000 USD from bitcoinica, so   I have considerable stake in this case).


EDIT: If you would be interested in jioning the bitconica litigation skype meeting, please email/pm your skype name.

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July 13, 2012, 03:14:45 PM
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I already contacted a lawyer and am waiting for a reply, I recommend we pool our resources.
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July 13, 2012, 03:17:18 PM
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I guess the third time's the charm.

I wish you all the very best of luck!

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July 13, 2012, 03:23:57 PM
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Lawyers are going to be very expensive and what if the "investors" don't have any money to make you whole?

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July 13, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
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Lawyers are going to be very expensive and what if the "investors" don't have any money to make you whole?

Thats what I plan to find out, and to find who can be considered criminally liable for the latest hack.

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July 13, 2012, 03:26:48 PM
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I have 24,841BTC on deposit with Bitcoinica.
I would like it back. 

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July 13, 2012, 03:42:31 PM
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I only had $500 plus my position, but I would like to see these people brought to justice before they strike again.

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July 13, 2012, 03:44:22 PM
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Lawyers are going to be very expensive and what if the "investors" don't have any money to make you whole?

Thats what I plan to find out, and to find who can be considered criminally liable for the latest hack.

The tragedy of this route is that on the one hand it's the only active route that bitcoinica users can pursue at this point, but on the other hand I think it reduces the odds of anyone getting anything back.
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July 13, 2012, 04:06:27 PM
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Lawyers are going to be very expensive and what if the "investors" don't have any money to make you whole?

Thats what I plan to find out, and to find who can be considered criminally liable for the latest hack.

The tragedy of this route is that on the one hand it's the only active route that bitcoinica users can pursue at this point, but on the other hand I think it reduces the odds of anyone getting anything back.

its quite unfortunate and you're correct, but at this point I have absolutely 0 faith in the bitcoinica consultancy, I hate lawyers too but I at least respect that they can sometimes get things done.

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July 13, 2012, 04:13:00 PM
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Lawyers are going to be very expensive and what if the "investors" don't have any money to make you whole?

Thats what I plan to find out, and to find who can be considered criminally liable for the latest hack.

The tragedy of this route is that on the one hand it's the only active route that bitcoinica users can pursue at this point, but on the other hand I think it reduces the odds of anyone getting anything back.

its quite unfortunate and you're correct, but at this point I have absolutely 0 faith in the bitcoinica consultancy, I hate lawyers too but I at least respect that they can sometimes get things done.
Genjix stated multiple times, that Patrick and/or Donald where the one that did constantly delay the payout. Maybe this process can now be faster, since at least Patrick is gone. So hopefully genjix assumes that he is now authorized to do the actual payouts and does it without further delay.
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July 13, 2012, 04:17:19 PM
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Lawyers are going to be very expensive and what if the "investors" don't have any money to make you whole?

Thats what I plan to find out, and to find who can be considered criminally liable for the latest hack.

The tragedy of this route is that on the one hand it's the only active route that bitcoinica users can pursue at this point, but on the other hand I think it reduces the odds of anyone getting anything back.

its quite unfortunate and you're correct, but at this point I have absolutely 0 faith in the bitcoinica consultancy, I hate lawyers too but I at least respect that they can sometimes get things done.
Genjix stated multiple times, that Patrick and/or Donald where the one that did constantly delay the payout. Maybe this process can now be faster, since at least Patrick is gone. So hopefully genjix assumes that he is now authorized to do the actual payouts and does it without further delay.

Tihan and Zhou both specifically told Patrick and Donald to refund my 24,841 bitcoins,  but Donald and Patrick both refused.
One day after legal action was threatened,  they announced this hack.
Cause,  or coincidence?

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July 13, 2012, 04:19:11 PM
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Tihan and Zhou both specifically told Patrick and Donald to refund my 24,841 bitcoins,  but Donald and Patrick both refused.
One day after legal action was threatened,  they announced this hack.
Cause,  or coincidence?

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July 13, 2012, 04:22:18 PM
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Lawyers are going to be very expensive and what if the "investors" don't have any money to make you whole?

Thats what I plan to find out, and to find who can be considered criminally liable for the latest hack.

The tragedy of this route is that on the one hand it's the only active route that bitcoinica users can pursue at this point, but on the other hand I think it reduces the odds of anyone getting anything back.

its quite unfortunate and you're correct, but at this point I have absolutely 0 faith in the bitcoinica consultancy, I hate lawyers too but I at least respect that they can sometimes get things done.
Genjix stated multiple times, that Patrick and/or Donald where the one that did constantly delay the payout. Maybe this process can now be faster, since at least Patrick is gone. So hopefully genjix assumes that he is now authorized to do the actual payouts and does it without further delay.

Tihan and Zhou both specifically told Patrick and Donald to refund my 24,841 bitcoins,  but Donald and Patrick both refused.
One day after legal action was threatened,  they announced this hack.
Cause,  or coincidence?

Zhou is the only one of my knowledge that is absolved of responsibility due to his sale of the site, everyone else will be a target as well as the compnay they are a member of, I am antipicating personal and corporate bankraupcy by all parties if we continue.

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July 13, 2012, 04:32:59 PM
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I'm in. My deposit value is $38,626 (BTC+USD combined). Willing to contribute to legal fees.
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July 13, 2012, 04:39:00 PM
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I'm in...no questions asked.

If anyone is in NYC and wants to discuss this, feel free to come by the Bitinstant office on 23rd and Broadway

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July 13, 2012, 04:43:23 PM
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I'm in...no questions asked.

If anyone is in NYC and wants to discuss this, feel free to come by the Bitinstant office on 23rd and Broadway

btw: sweet office saw the pictures on twitter!  Grin

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July 13, 2012, 04:44:22 PM
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poll about scammer tag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93119.0 , please vote.

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July 13, 2012, 04:45:46 PM
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I'm in. Missing approx $8000 and BTC500. Was using bitcoinica to earn interest on USD only.
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July 13, 2012, 04:51:14 PM
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I have 24,841BTC on deposit with Bitcoinica.
I would like it back. 

Holy shit!  That was painful to even just read!

Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable.  I never believe them.  If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins.  I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion.  Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice.  Don't keep coins online. Use paper wallets instead.
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July 13, 2012, 04:51:52 PM
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some of us have interesting things that might be of use but we don't want to pass it out to people who are not lawyers representing us.
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