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I have already challenged you in a bet about what you are claiming... -snip-
I want to bet with you that...
1. 1KufA3z7mLntENepGKo9Ktu9S7qAL2oLF3 can not be proven as owned by the owner of 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec in any way by blockchain analysis.
2. Owner of 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec has no hand in the transaction link between 1F91HzJaQZ1WGU9NG2ZhFaXctZD6vMsV3L (pay in address) > 1GNmnxWkComFYF7k8EBeKtgQz2sprUGYvM.
How much you want to bet ?
Accept it or stop lying.I'm tired of this idiot. Someone please explain shared transaction concept to this psycho. Another clue to analyze: 0.01 BTC is the base amount that cloudmining.website accepts. That is all payments are expected to be multiple of this amount. When it'll be found that he is simply lying, I'd request DefaultTrust people to leave -ve trust on him. Statutory Warning: Proof of the non-association of cloudmining.website and Eobot does NOT mean cloudmining.website is a legit operation. It only means that this idiot is lying people to get investment in AM hash, so that he can sell higher.
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Mabsark (OP)
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January 21, 2015, 06:18:48 PM Last edit: January 21, 2015, 08:50:37 PM by Mabsark |
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I have already challenged you in a bet about what you are claiming...
I don't give a flying fuck about your idiotic bet that I couldn't possibly win unless I was the scammer running Cloud Mining Website. I'm tired of this idiot. Someone please explain shared transaction concept to this psycho. Another clue to analyze: 0.01 BTC is the base amount that cloudmining.website accepts. That is all payments are expected to be multiple of this amount.
When it'll be found that he is simply lying, I'd request DefaultTrust people to leave -ve trust on him.
Statutory Warning: Proof that non-association of cloudmining.website and Eobot does NOT mean cloudmining.website is a legit operation. It only means that this idiot is lying people to get investment in AM hash, so that he can sell higher.
Like I already said: 159L7bbpjvYuMT5PQnFyQvJwws3f7D5BpL and 1GNmnxWkComFYF7k8EBeKtgQz2sprUGYvM still belong to Cloud Mining Website and still sends payment to Eobot. The 1F91HzJaQZ1WGU9NG2ZhFaXctZD6vMsV3L and 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec addresses just confirm that the transactions are from Cloud Mining Website, tying them all together.
Besides, bitcoin transactions don't really work like than anyway. The inputs are all added together and spent completely. The total gets distributed to the outputs in the amounts specified and anything leftover is a fee. So, just because an input and an output have the same values, that does not mean that the input sent that value to the output.
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January 21, 2015, 06:25:37 PM |
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I have already challenged you in a bet about what you are claiming...
I don't give a flying fuck about your idiotic bet that I couldn't possibly win unless I was the scammer running Cloud Mining Website. I'm tired of this idiot. Someone please explain shared transaction concept to this psycho. Another clue to analyze: 0.01 BTC is the base amount that cloudmining.website accepts. That is all payments are expected to be multiple of this amount.
When it'll be found that he is simply lying, I'd request DefaultTrust people to leave -ve trust on him.
Statutory Warning: Proof that non-association of cloudmining.website and Eobot does NOT mean cloudmining.website is a legit operation. It only means that this idiot is lying people to get investment in AM hash, so that he can sell higher.
Like I already said: 159L7bbpjvYuMT5PQnFyQvJwws3f7D5BpL and 1GNmnxWkComFYF7k8EBeKtgQz2sprUGYvM still belong to Cloud Mining Website and still sends payment to Eobot. The 1F91HzJaQZ1WGU9NG2ZhFaXctZD6vMsV3L and 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec addresses just confirm that the transactions are from Cloud Mining Website, tying them all together.
Besides, bitcoin transactions don't really work like than anyway. The inputs are all added together and spent completely. The total gets distributed to the outputs in the amounts specified and anything leftover is a fee. So, just because an input and an output have the same values, that does not mean that the input sent that value to the output.
Anyone with a minimum knowledge to read blockchain can make out what you are missing from the screenshot you have given. But, I wonder, when you have so many evidence of the link, what is your problem in accepting the bet ? I understand u have already spooked about the first part of the bet and hence not claiming that anymore. But, when you are claiming the second one, showing evidence to everyone, why are you so afraid to put your money on that ? I wont give you the technical explanation of your (deliberate?) mistake, unless you put your money on your mouth.
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January 21, 2015, 07:19:46 PM |
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Anyone with a minimum knowledge to read blockchain can make out what you are missing from the screenshot you have given. But, I wonder, when you have so many evidence of the link, what is your problem in accepting the bet ? I understand u have already spooked about the first part of the bet and hence not claiming that anymore. But, when you are claiming the second one, showing evidence to everyone, why are you so afraid to put your money on that ? I wont give you the technical explanation of your (deliberate?) mistake, unless you put your money on your mouth. 1F91HzJaQZ1WGU9NG2ZhFaXctZD6vMsV3L and 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec are 100% Cloud Mining Website addresses. Given that, who owns 159L7bbpjvYuMT5PQnFyQvJwws3f7D5BpL? Given that basically all the above chains look like that with 2 addresses known to belong to CMW, do you think it just a strange coincidence that they all go on to fund Eobot.
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January 21, 2015, 07:49:00 PM |
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What exactly is EOBOT ?
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January 21, 2015, 08:03:52 PM |
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What exactly is EOBOT ?
Cloud mining service - https://www.eobot.com/Edit: So actually OP is giving proof that CloudMining.Website is legit because is mining..
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Mabsark (OP)
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January 21, 2015, 08:09:18 PM |
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What exactly is EOBOT ?
Another cloud mining scam. From Puppet's Cloudmining 101 thread: eobot.com 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)
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January 21, 2015, 08:42:13 PM |
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Actually, I don't know too well this service. Only heard about it. So can be.. If you say so..
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January 23, 2015, 06:49:01 AM |
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Given that RuusianRainbow/GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier left me negative feedback for providing evidence of CMW funnelling funds to Eobot and his rabid defence of CMW, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he's the operator of this scam.
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January 23, 2015, 12:20:14 PM |
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Given that RuusianRainbow/GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier left me negative feedback for providing evidence of CMW funnelling funds to Eobot and his rabid defence of CMW, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he's the operator of this scam.
If the people on DefaultTrust has minimum knowledge of blockchain shared transaction, they should have left you -ve feedback as well for carrying out a hate campaign on baseless facts. I wonder why FriedCat has appointed a fool like u to discredit a cloud mining service, who even got kicked out of DefaultTrust for blatant lying.
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January 23, 2015, 01:35:00 PM |
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Given that RuusianRainbow/GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier left me negative feedback for providing evidence of CMW funnelling funds to Eobot and his rabid defence of CMW, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he's the operator of this scam.
If the people on DefaultTrust has minimum knowledge of blockchain shared transaction, they should have left you -ve feedback as well for carrying out a hate campaign on baseless facts. I wonder why FriedCat has appointed a fool like u to discredit a cloud mining service, who even got kicked out of DefaultTrust for blatant lying. Stop talking shite. Anyone here is free to get my observations confirmed by bitcoin experts of their own choosing. They will confirm that CMW is obviously sending money to Eobot. The evidence is pretty damn conclusive. Like I said, if it was a one off, that could be explained away as an accident, coincidence or whatever, but not when it's a third of the transactions from the first payout though. I'm not appointed by FriedCat at all and I was never kicked off DefaultTrust for lying. Provide the proof of that or let everyone know that you are a lying sack of shit defending a blatant scam. All that link you provided shows is that I was removed from the DefaultTrust list, not because I was lying. I never should have been on it in the first place as I have no transaction history.
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January 23, 2015, 01:57:32 PM |
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Given that RuusianRainbow/GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier left me negative feedback for providing evidence of CMW funnelling funds to Eobot and his rabid defence of CMW, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he's the operator of this scam.
If the people on DefaultTrust has minimum knowledge of blockchain shared transaction, they should have left you -ve feedback as well for carrying out a hate campaign on baseless facts. I wonder why FriedCat has appointed a fool like u to discredit a cloud mining service, who even got kicked out of DefaultTrust for blatant lying. Stop talking shite. Anyone here is free to get my observations confirmed by bitcoin experts of their own choosing. They will confirm that CMW is obviously sending money to Eobot. The evidence is pretty damn conclusive. Like I said, if it was a one off, that could be explained away as an accident, coincidence or whatever, but not when it's a third of the transactions from the first payout though. I'm not appointed by FriedCat at all and I was never kicked off DefaultTrust for lying. Provide the proof of that or let everyone know that you are a lying sack of shit defending a blatant scam. All that link you provided shows is that I was removed from the DefaultTrust list, not because I was lying. I never should have been on it in the first place as I have no transaction history. I would like to see it verified by some blockchain expert like DannyHammilton or Death&Taxes as well. Will u ask them to leave you -ve feedback and wear my cloudmining.website affiliate link, if you are proven wrong ? Following quotes prove your motive more conclusively. Now, as they were first pointed out by SpanishSoldier, u'll definitely call me his sockpuppet again Does lowest up-front cost and no maintenance fees sound to good to be true? Does the cloud mining service try to hide their maintenance and trade fees until you've already bought a contract? Does it refuse to provide proof that they even have any miners? Are you concerned that the cloud mining service is actually a ponzi? Well, now you can get cloud mining direct from ASICMiner, one of the earliest manufacturers of Bitcoin ASICs. There's no question about these guys actually having miners and they provide all the information you need to make an informed decision. Cost: 1.2 mBTC per Gh/s Maintenance fees: $0.00163 per Gh/s per day Trading fees: 0.4% when selling Official Forum ThreadPurchase from HavelockMabsark wants you to buy this, because he is getting desperate about his Asicminer shares. But the offer is soo tempting that by his own words: I don't own any AMHash shares. That said, I will agree that Amhash is far preferable over all the mining ponzi's like cloudmining.website, cloudminr.io, gaw, etc. Its arguably the least-worst cloud mining offer on the market. I still wouldnt chose it over coins in a cold wallet.
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January 23, 2015, 02:02:19 PM |
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I would like to see it verified by some blockchain expert like DannyHammilton or Death&Taxes as well. Will u ask them to leave you -ve feedback and wear my cloudmining.website affiliate link, if you are proven wrong ?
Go and ask them then. No, I won't ask them to leave me negative feedback if I'm wrong. You can though. And no, I won't wear that sig either. I would change my sig to admit I made a mistake though. Snipped attempted distractions.
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January 23, 2015, 02:05:47 PM |
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But how can you be so sure that the address the funds were being sent at was eobot's address? Out of the gazillions of addresses. I don't like any cloud mining website but this post seems to be making allegations without much proof. And no adding (eobot) next to an address won't prove that it's theirs.
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January 23, 2015, 02:07:44 PM |
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I would like to see it verified by some blockchain expert like DannyHammilton or Death&Taxes as well. Will u ask them to leave you -ve feedback and wear my cloudmining.website affiliate link, if you are proven wrong ?
Go and ask them then. No, I won't ask them to leave me negative feedback if I'm wrong. You can though. And no, I won't wear that sig either. I would change my sig to admit I made a mistake though. Snipped attempted distractions.
Why should I take the pain if u dont give me the price ? You'll be proven wrong and come back with "Oh Sorry !!! That was a mistake." and comeback with another made up story ? Accept my conditions and I'll see what can I do...
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January 23, 2015, 02:09:36 PM |
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But how can you be so sure that the address the funds were being sent at was eobot's address? Out of the gazillions of addresses. I don't like any cloud mining website but this post seems to be making allegations without much proof. And no adding (eobot) next to an address won't prove that it's theirs.
I got the "Eobot" tag from blockchain.info. It comes directly from their website under "Block Explorer Link". Why should I take the pain if u dont give me the price ? You'll be proven wrong and come back with "Oh Sorry !!! That was a mistake." and comeback with another made up story ? Accept my conditions and I'll see what can I do...
I don't give a shit either way. You're a proven liar (until you provide proof of me getting kicked off Default trust for lying) defending a blatant scam despite all the evidence showing it to be a blatant scam.
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January 23, 2015, 02:12:33 PM |
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But how can you be so sure that the address the funds were being sent at was eobot's address? Out of the gazillions of addresses. I don't like any cloud mining website but this post seems to be making allegations without much proof. And no adding (eobot) next to an address won't prove that it's theirs.
That is not where he is mistaken. The address probably belongs to Eobot. He is mistaken elsewhere. Check my first post in the thread. There is a clue
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January 26, 2015, 11:42:19 AM |
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Funnily enough, I was just looking into another "cloud mining service" called "cloumin.in". It seems to have the exact same transaction structure as CMW. From their "Proof of payments" you can see that the last output from the latest payment was: 1AZ8aWkapStU6UUf3bGgEho6Rrvx1huuvR - (Unspent) 0.000065 BTC From the cloudmin.in website you can see that's the payout for 10 Gh/s which costs 0.008 BTC. By looking at that address, you can see that it paid for those 10 Gh/s in this transaction, sending 0.008BTC to 1GNoohohBjDNBeRfQeJ1c43LLMiXYxq6Zd, which is a customer pay-in address from cloudmin.in. From 1GNoohohBjDNBeRfQeJ1c43LLMiXYxq6Zd, the money is transferred to 1J53FDjBPYj7qYaWT8fY26nPY6CLknTaVc which by looking at that address, you can see that it receives payments of multiples of 0.008 BTC. It is quite obviously a pay-in collection address, in the same way that 1LfpedDQLqqEmSDZ9B7v2sPzz5NeeDhXec is for CMW. If you click the addresses below that collection address, you'll find that they lead to Eobot too, just like CMW. What are the odds of 2 separate businesses having such an identical transaction structure involved in funnelling money to Eobot? What's even funnier is that that website was PM'd to me by a victim of MineThatCloud which already has a connection to CMW (by redirecting their website to CMW). My investigation into cloudmin.in was looking for a connection to MineThatCloud, yet I found that it's transaction structure is identical to CMW's. Just another coincidence though, eh?
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They are also running a signature campaign without an escrow or a weekly payment. Which again points that it will end as a scam soon enough.
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