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May 22, 2011, 05:46:42 AM
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May 22, 2011, 06:11:08 AM
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577 USD? No option to buy with bitcoins? Think I'll write my own Smiley

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May 22, 2011, 08:44:14 AM
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577 USD? No option to buy with bitcoins? Think I'll write my own Smiley

Added option to pay with bitcoin.

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May 22, 2011, 01:00:03 PM
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Very interesting, but just looking at that price gives me chest pains.  Angry

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May 22, 2011, 02:12:51 PM
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Very interesting, but just looking at that price gives me chest pains.  Angry

Sad to hear that, do not want to cause death. The reason of the price is because you get the script unencrypted and therefore I have no way of making sure you do not resell it.

Also you get 15 years of PHP development experience put into the script.

I can arrange an encrypted version of the script with http://www.ioncube.com/ for only $350

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May 23, 2011, 09:48:43 AM
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hi. Kris

1. if i build a 100G---500G pool or 500--1000G pool what about server require?


2.the script looks like simple , does the price include script update?

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May 23, 2011, 07:59:49 PM
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1. The script doesn't take much, if you want to build a big pool you need to check out the requirements for bitcoind and pushpool.

2. Yes the price includes script updates, if I find security bugs etc.
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May 23, 2011, 08:02:18 PM
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I could rehire some Russian from oDesk for less than half the price to make a similar script. lol
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May 23, 2011, 08:09:20 PM
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Do you have any sort of demo or even performance statistics? I might consider buying pool software from Tycho or Slush but I see no reason to pay that much for an unproven pool system. What advantages does it offer over PushPool (http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=3493.0), a free and open source pool system?
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May 23, 2011, 08:18:08 PM
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Well pushpool is used as a proxy for bidcoind. It has no frontend.

So what should I set the price at for the non encrypted version and encrypted? Give me suggestions.

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May 23, 2011, 08:18:49 PM
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Do you have any sort of demo or even performance statistics? I might consider buying pool software from Tycho or Slush but I see no reason to pay that much for an unproven pool system. What advantages does it offer over PushPool (http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=3493.0), a free and open source pool system?
It has a web front-end.

Thanks for releasing this Kris, though I think you could get a lot more sales/interest at a lower price (suggesting $99 or $199)!  I agree that it sucks that people can/will distribute and steal your code, but if you do find someone doing so, you could always sue them for copyright infringement.  Tongue

I'm just glad that there is finally an option for people who don't know how to program their own pool.  Even the open source pool software didn't have a web front-end, which is pretty much a requirement for anyone who wants to run a pool that will have more than a handful of users.

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May 23, 2011, 08:45:26 PM
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I lowered the price for the encrypted version to $199

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May 23, 2011, 09:01:03 PM
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I lowered the price for the encrypted version to $199

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Encrypted basically means un-editable, right?  I guess my question is, if you have the option to encrypt it, why sell a de-encrypted version at all?  What benefit does the unencrypted version give to the buyer?
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May 23, 2011, 09:10:53 PM
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I lowered the price for the encrypted version to $199

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Encrypted basically means un-editable, right?  I guess my question is, if you have the option to encrypt it, why sell a de-encrypted version at all?  What benefit does the unencrypted version give to the buyer?

Yes encrypted means un-editable. You can only edit the templates files, stylesheet etc.

Because some people don't trust encrypted code, and they want to be able to change things themselves.
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May 23, 2011, 09:14:02 PM
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I lowered the price for the encrypted version to $199

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Encrypted basically means un-editable, right?  I guess my question is, if you have the option to encrypt it, why sell a de-encrypted version at all?  What benefit does the unencrypted version give to the buyer?

Yes encrypted means un-editable. You can only edit the templates files, stylesheet etc.

Because some people don't trust encrypted code, and they want to be able to change things themselves.
Cool, thanks.  Some companies/developers have stipulations that the buyer cannot edit the code, even if it is in plaintext, to avoid support issues.  It's good you are supporting it if people want to pay the extra though.
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May 23, 2011, 09:15:33 PM
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Because some people don't trust encrypted code, and they want to be able to change things themselves.
maybe they want to know what things actually do.

pool-users need to trust pool-admins.
how could you trust someone, who doesn't even know what his scripts do?

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May 23, 2011, 09:29:51 PM
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The idea of gbyte.dk was to have a place where I could see starts from my miners. But then I though hey wouldnt it be cool to have it work as a real pool, so I went the extra mile and programmed all in.

So buyers of this script will mainly be people who solo mine with a few friends, as least I think that's the clientel.

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May 23, 2011, 10:28:22 PM
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no offense, but the price for this is way too high. You might want to lower your prices, or else you're gonna get little to no sales. Even worse, someone is probably going to come along, and make a open source version that is better than yours, and you're gonna be out of business.

Don't believe me? This is exactly what happened with hdminer.
https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=2949.0

It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

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May 23, 2011, 10:45:08 PM
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no offense, but the price for this is way too high. You might want to lower your prices, or else you're gonna get little to no sales. Even worse, someone is probably going to come along, and make a open source version that is better than yours, and you're gonna be out of business.

Don't believe me? This is exactly what happened with hdminer.
https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=2949.0
Hey, don't knock him for trying to make a buck!

I think for someone looking to start up a public and reliable pool, $199 is a relatively small amount to pay.  I think a good anti-DDOS server costs in the neighborhood of $1000-$1500 monthly.  $199, or even $99, opens it up to even the average enthusiast who might think "hey, I'd like to start up my own pool and see what happens."  The big issue is in the code being untested in a large pool.  I would encourage Kris to start his own pool based off of this code set to prove the concept out and show everyone that it does, in fact, work.

Sure, he could go lower than that, but at that point, you would have too many people buying, and he would lose his source code to piraters/copyright infringers.  With only a handful of buyers, it is less likely to get out "into the wild".
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May 23, 2011, 11:26:16 PM
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Thanks for the advice guys.

If anyone is interested I am now selling the unencrypted version of the script for only $199 in regards to your advice, just remember where you got it and tell your friends.

It is probably going to get copied in 2 seconds and sold for $29.99 with backdoors in it etc...

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