BurtW arrested (update: charges dropped!)

[QuestionAuthority]

Is this site with the fundraising legit? Seems pretty sketchy to me.

That's the understatement of the year. That page should read, "Stupid people please send me your money because I'm out of beer".

[rammy2k2]

America and its freedom 

[inBitweTrust]

Is this site with the fundraising legit? Seems pretty sketchy to me.

Can anyone confirm this was BurtW business ?

http://jmwagner.com/
deadlinespecialists.com

Registrant Name: Burt Wagner
Registrant Organization: Deadline Specialists, Inc.
Registrant Street: Post Office Box 18985
Registrant City: Boulder
Registrant State/Province: Colorado
Registrant Postal Code: 80308
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.3035893095
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: burt@deadlinespecialists.com

and why does burtw.com have private whois? Is that even his website?

[MrTeal]

Is this site with the fundraising legit? Seems pretty sketchy to me.

Can anyone confirm this was BurtW business ?

http://jmwagner.com/
deadlinespecialists.com

Registrant Name: Burt Wagner
Registrant Organization: Deadline Specialists, Inc.
Registrant Street: Post Office Box 18985
Registrant City: Boulder
Registrant State/Province: Colorado
Registrant Postal Code: 80308
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.3035893095
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: burt@deadlinespecialists.com

and why does burtw.com have private whois? Is that even his website?

That was his business. Can't confirm the address though.

[Gleb Gamow]

Is this site with the fundraising legit? Seems pretty sketchy to me.

Can anyone confirm this was BurtW business ?

http://jmwagner.com/
deadlinespecialists.com

Registrant Name: Burt Wagner
Registrant Organization: Deadline Specialists, Inc.
Registrant Street: Post Office Box 18985
Registrant City: Boulder
Registrant State/Province: Colorado
Registrant Postal Code: 80308
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.3035893095
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: burt@deadlinespecialists.com

and why does burtw.com have private whois? Is that even his website?

That was his business. Can't confirm the address though.

I can confirm it, MrTeal.

[inBitweTrust]

I can confirm it, MrTeal.

What we cannot confirm is that burtw.com is associated with those domains or address because they ping to different IP addresses and burtw.com has private whois.

We need better ways of identifying,donating, and assisting victims of the violence of the state.

[hongw]

I can confirm it, MrTeal.

What we cannot confirm is that burtw.com is associated with those domains or address because they ping to different IP addresses and burtw.com has private whois.

We need better ways of identifying,donating, and assisting victims of the violence of the state.

Well whoever is behind burtw.com is more or less denying that they are the same person as BurtW on bitcontalk. It is possible they are the same but IMO it is unlikely

[Blazr]

Well whoever is behind burtw.com is more or less denying that they are the same person as BurtW on bitcontalk.

Where do you see that??

[hongw]

Well whoever is behind burtw.com is more or less denying that they are the same person as BurtW on bitcontalk.

Where do you see that??

On the below post which happens to quote burtw.com

It's safely assumed that the following [update] is directed to the contents of this tread.

http://www.burtw.com/

Please stop defaming my husband.

My husband has no involvement in drugs at all. 

Please stop confusing BurtW with Bruce Wagner.  They are not the same person.

My daughter and our friends and families wanted to help, so we put up this little fundraising website for friends and families last October.

Our personal and business losses and the costs and fees for legal representation are astronomical.

We can use all the help we can get. 

If you are sincere and well-meaning, you may contact me at jean@jmwagner.com

Please heed Jean's plead.

[matt4054]

I think she's just saying that some people confuse BurtW with Bruce Wagner, probably because they share the same first name initial and last name.

[Blazr]

I think she's just saying that some people confuse BurtW with Bruce Wagner, probably because they share the same first name initial and last name.

Yeah people used to always mix them up on the forums. I don't think shes saying he's not BurtW.

[9kv]

Wow. Sorry burtw :/

[koelen3]

I didn't actually got all this. What illegal activity did he exactly do ?

[bitcoin_bagholder]

I didn't actually got all this. What illegal activity did he exactly do ?

He allegedly:

"did knowingly conduct, control, manage, supervise, direct, or own all or part of an unlicensed money transmitting business affecting interstate and foreign commerce, to wit, a digital currency exchange business which (A) operated without an appropriate money transmitting license in a state where such operation is punishable as a misdemeanor or felony under state law; (B) failed to comply with the money transmitting business regulations under Section 5330 of Title 31, United States Code, and regulations prescribed thereunder; and (C) involved the transport and transmission of funds that were known to the defendant to have been derived from a criminal offense and were intended to be used to promote and support unlawful activity; all in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1960."

[koelen3]

I didn't actually got all this. What illegal activity did he exactly do ?

He allegedly:

"did knowingly conduct, control, manage, supervise, direct, or own all or part of an unlicensed money transmitting business affecting interstate and foreign commerce, to wit, a digital currency exchange business which (A) operated without an appropriate money transmitting license in a state where such operation is punishable as a misdemeanor or felony under state law; (B) failed to comply with the money transmitting business regulations under Section 5330 of Title 31, United States Code, and regulations prescribed thereunder; and (C) involved the transport and transmission of funds that were known to the defendant to have been derived from a criminal offense and were intended to be used to promote and support unlawful activity; all in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1960."

Does that simply means he was a bitcoin seller/buyer ?
Doesn't that risk most of people selling on LBC the same?

[Blazr]

I didn't actually got all this. What illegal activity did he exactly do ?

He allegedly:

"did knowingly conduct, control, manage, supervise, direct, or own all or part of an unlicensed money transmitting business affecting interstate and foreign commerce, to wit, a digital currency exchange business which (A) operated without an appropriate money transmitting license in a state where such operation is punishable as a misdemeanor or felony under state law; (B) failed to comply with the money transmitting business regulations under Section 5330 of Title 31, United States Code, and regulations prescribed thereunder; and (C) involved the transport and transmission of funds that were known to the defendant to have been derived from a criminal offense and were intended to be used to promote and support unlawful activity; all in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1960."

Does that simply means he was a bitcoin seller/buyer ?
Doesn't that risk most of people selling on LBC the same?

No, it means they think he broke laws.

[bitcoin_bagholder]

I didn't actually got all this. What illegal activity did he exactly do ?

He allegedly:

"did knowingly conduct, control, manage, supervise, direct, or own all or part of an unlicensed money transmitting business affecting interstate and foreign commerce, to wit, a digital currency exchange business which (A) operated without an appropriate money transmitting license in a state where such operation is punishable as a misdemeanor or felony under state law; (B) failed to comply with the money transmitting business regulations under Section 5330 of Title 31, United States Code, and regulations prescribed thereunder; and (C) involved the transport and transmission of funds that were known to the defendant to have been derived from a criminal offense and were intended to be used to promote and support unlawful activity; all in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1960."

Does that simply means he was a bitcoin seller/buyer ?
Doesn't that risk most of people selling on LBC the same?

I don't know if any facts surrounding this have surfaced. I'm guilty of not having read the last few pages of this thread. People have been guessing as to the specifics.

[Gleb Gamow]

BurtW used to be BWagner on this forum, but changed it after Bruce Wagner wanted everybody to have the next (his being the first) Bitcoin Conference held in his hotel room in Pattaya (paraphrased for humor).

The websites in question do belong to Burt and are in his control regardless the IPs, etc.

The pending case does not involve drugs, for even the court docs depict such is not the case, hence its exclusion.

[bitcoin_bagholder]

BurtW used to be BWagner on this forum, but changed it after Bruce Wagner wanted everybody to have the next (his being the first) Bitcoin Conference held in his hotel room in Pattaya (paraphrased for humor).

The websites in question do belong to Burt and are in his control regardless the IPs, etc.

The pending case does not involve drugs, for even the court docs depict such is not the case, hence its exclusion.

Is that how the law works in the U.S.? If the alleged "criminal offense" and/or "unlawful activity" in the indictment was drugs it would have to be stated as such?

[CoinCidental]

I didn't actually got all this. What illegal activity did he exactly do ?

He helped to run a ponzi as well as whatever else and he's  being charged for that as well by the looks of things

I think they just want to forfeit all his assets and give him a slap on the wrist...... Legally robbed would be the proper name for it in some countries