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July 15, 2012, 03:11:33 PM
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Offtopic:
8th wonderland
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1060234/
Anyone knows where I'll find english subs or english version?
It looks like it is not available in my country.


I wouldn't bother - it has a low rating...   Wink

THX I know, but it is so interesting topic to me that I want to watch.
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Hm  I had seen much lower movies like 2.0 Smiley

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July 15, 2012, 03:17:32 PM
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What you were talking about in the first post wasn't really a virtual country, just "smart contracts" and a form of arbitration. Though I wasn't really following.
Just add a communication board like a forum but without a forum holder or a one forum administrator etc. just to freely talk about.
And It would be a good begging,
after that there will come instruments like insurances adequate to military protection or even health insurance.

BTW mayby its a good time to start global health insurance for bitcoins.
Is there some global health insurance which insurances you for exaple only for cancer and if you get it you will have provided best world treatment?
 
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July 15, 2012, 03:32:19 PM
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Offtopic:
8th wonderland
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1060234/
Anyone knows where I'll find english subs or english version?
It looks like it is not available in my country.


I wouldn't bother - it has a low rating...   Wink

THX I know, but it is so interesting topic to me that I want to watch.
And 6.2
Hm  I had seen much lower movies like 2.0 Smiley



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moved here Smiley
Its reverse auction try to get this movie in English rip.
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July 15, 2012, 04:07:01 PM
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Offtopic:
8th wonderland
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1060234/
Anyone knows where I'll find english subs or english version?
It looks like it is not available in my country.


I wouldn't bother - it has a low rating...   Wink

The movie is not the greatest piece of filmmaking - but the idea behind is interesting and it's interesting to see some people actually turning that into a movie.

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July 15, 2012, 05:45:22 PM
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The thing is, it wouldn't really be a virtual 'country' (read: state) at all. It would just be a voluntary organisation, from which you are subscribed to, in order to access the services they offer.

What is more interesting, is the question it begs - what is a state, if not an organisation which provides services, which you can't un-subscribe to?

Additionally, it begs the question of why you need a perimeter to defend at all; when members of different organisations are distributed randomly amongst one another, all anyone really needs to defend, is their property (including your body). The very definition of the 'police' or the 'army' are arbitrary - you just need personal security services.

IMO, the reason it is difficult to define what you are suggesting, is because what we have now (states/countries) is a rather strange and artificial concept to begin with. We are all just individuals, trying to safely navigate through our lives.
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July 15, 2012, 05:51:46 PM
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To add, this is one of the reasons why the use of Bitcoins is so interesting to observe. When people start to understand what Bitcoins are and can do, it begs these sorts of questions.
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July 15, 2012, 06:23:07 PM
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Do you think is there possibility of building virtual-country?
Where citizenship is voluntary, where you always can quit where are some rights and rules but anyone can force it to you.

There are some bitcoiners who are wirtlanders:
 - http://www.wirtland.com

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July 15, 2012, 06:52:22 PM
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To add, this is one of the reasons why the use of Bitcoins is so interesting to observe. When people start to understand what Bitcoins are and can do, it begs these sorts of questions.

I like those begs.

I'm not fully understand your thoughts, but I'm think I'll agree with most of it. Smiley

There is no proper names for these what I'm talking about.
And I hope to find some names here. Smiley
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July 15, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
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Do you think is there possibility of building virtual-country?
Where citizenship is voluntary, where you always can quit where are some rights and rules but anyone can force it to you.

There are some bitcoiners who are wirtlanders:
 - http://www.wirtland.com

THX for that link Smiley
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July 16, 2012, 07:40:10 AM
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Do you think is there possibility of building virtual-country?
Where citizenship is voluntary, where you always can quit where are some rights and rules but anyone can force it to you.

There are some bitcoiners who are wirtlanders:
 - http://www.wirtland.com


It's closest to what I mean, I have ever seen.

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July 16, 2012, 07:41:27 AM
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Where Smart Contracts are used most widely now?
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July 16, 2012, 12:41:36 PM
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Just add a communication board like a forum but without a forum holder
Osiris - Serverless Portal System
http://www.osiris-sps.org/
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July 16, 2012, 12:57:08 PM
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Just add a communication board like a forum but without a forum holder
Osiris - Serverless Portal System
http://www.osiris-sps.org/

Looks good, I'll read the details.

Worst is that probably any of tech like that wont allow to browse sites using regular clean (without addons) browser.
But I'm hope I'm wrong.
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July 16, 2012, 01:05:08 PM
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You can see Osiris forums by installing Isis ( webapp ) on a free hosting.
But users will NOT be able to post anything, the board will be read-only.
If they want to post they will need to install and use Osiris.

Anyway, now Osiris is closed source, the next version ( v1.0 ) will be completely open and it will be probably released at the end of this year. ( I'm a beta tester )

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July 16, 2012, 01:13:16 PM
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You can see Osiris forums by installing Isis ( webapp ) on a free hosting.
But users will NOT be able to post anything, the board will be read-only.
If they want to post they will need to install and use Osiris.

Anyway, now Osiris is closed source, the next version ( v1.0 ) will be completely open and it will be probably released at the end of this year. ( I'm a beta tester )

It's good, but it would be better with tech which allows to move or copy existing forum/s into distributed thing.

But it causes problems like change of structure of ownership moderation and administration.

I have already seen one tor forum at onion domain which owner moderator admin had disappear and no meter that forum was good prospering they had to move and create another one because of lack of admin account of anyone present during last 6 months.
 
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July 16, 2012, 01:30:41 PM
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But it causes problems like change of structure of ownership moderation and administration.
Osiris can run in anarchic mode, where every user can decide who's moderator changes will be followed.

Example : users are divided in two groups. One support person A as moderator, Second group support person B as moderator.
Portal will split into 2, each part moderated by another person
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July 16, 2012, 06:01:12 PM
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But it causes problems like change of structure of ownership moderation and administration.
Osiris can run in anarchic mode, where every user can decide who's moderator changes will be followed.

Example : users are divided in two groups. One support person A as moderator, Second group support person B as moderator.
Portal will split into 2, each part moderated by another person

Ideal, like a voting or sth, or like bitcoin protocol, which could split at some point eventually (or I misunderstood).
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July 18, 2012, 11:45:00 PM
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I saw this video and thought of this thread - enjoy! Smiley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9XLBvTJQPM&feature=g-u-u
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July 19, 2012, 07:39:22 AM
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Check out this:
http://www.micronationconference.com/delegates.html

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July 19, 2012, 07:40:00 AM
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If someone is feeling brave (and stupid) they should make a version of Second Life that uses bitcoins...

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