Who is "Variety Jones"?

[AGD]

What if Goat is Variety Jones!

Who is this "Goat" guy?

[S4VV4S]

OK, don't bash me if you think this is stupid but.....

Did any of yous considered the fact that Edward Snowden is VJ?

I won't bash you and welcome all theories but I think it's stupid...

What Snowden revealed has a much bigger impact. Everyone is affected. His revelations influenced world politics and economics.
Silkroad, even though it made millions, was a small niche in the global drug trade. Only a very small percentage of the population have even heard of it. Even smaller the amount of people who used it.
Honestly, I don't think the NSA cares very much about SR. Maybe only if they want to give a new employee a training project.

Ross is a dreamer who thought he can change the world through his idea of a free market. And make lots of money, have fun. He has this careless and free attitude.
Snowden is a pure idealist. He wants to improve democracy. He is convinced something on a large scale goes terribly wrong. He knew he has to give up his freedom and economic benefits for his believes.

Fair enough.

However, what makes you think that SR was not a 3 letter agency project to begin with?
It has been said by Ross before that he is NOT the original creator of SR and apart from that we all know how the 3 letter agencies "work" right?

Thanks for your input though.

EDIT: You do know that most hackers smoke pot or do some kind of drugs right?
What makes you think Edward didn't?

[S4VV4S]

What if Goat is Variety Jones!

Who is this "Goat" guy?

Yeah good question....

Who is he?

Sorry wasn't really into SR, but this story with VJ seems interesting.

[BayAreaCoins]

What if Goat is Variety Jones!

Who is this "Goat" guy?

Yeah good question....

Who is he?

Sorry wasn't really into SR, but this story with VJ seems interesting.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44233

A lot of his post have been edited & removed. 

Worth reading back though.

I like Goat honestly and he doesn't strike me as the type of dude who would have shit to do with this.

I'm sure VJ and Goat have nothing to do with each other besides the average Bitcoin shit. (Goat maybe mined some of VJ's coins maybe)

[S4VV4S]

What if Goat is Variety Jones!

Who is this "Goat" guy?

Yeah good question....

Who is he?

Sorry wasn't really into SR, but this story with VJ seems interesting.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44233

A lot of his post have been edited & removed.  

Worth reading back though.

I like Goat honestly and he doesn't strike me as the type of dude who would have shit to do with this.

I'm sure VJ and Goat have nothing to do with each other besides the average Bitcoin shit. (Goat maybe mined some of VJ's coins maybe)

Peru?

I heard that Peruvian coke is almost as good as Colombian one....

Apart from that,
in a quick glimpse, he has high trust rating yet his latest good trust rating was from you,
apart from that, what does rating in red mean?
That's means it's a bad thing right?
He got one from Gregory Maxwell aswell that mentions child pornography - not cool, not cool at all.


Haven't gone through his posts yet but I will when I get some time.

That being said, I doubt he is VJ.
If he was he wouldn't be asking for people to "fabricate" things.
He would have done it himself.

None the less thanks for the link  

EDIT: His last post was on: 03 June 2014...
Like I said I am not an SR person, so when did SR2 got busted?

[S4VV4S]

WOW - somehow off topic....

The link you sent me of his profile...

Check the trust rating and you will find this guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198

F*ck me I have NEVER seen a trust rating THAT BAD!

[BayAreaCoins]

WOW - somehow off topic....

The link you sent me of his profile...

Check the trust rating and you will find this guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198

F*ck me I have NEVER seen a trust rating THAT BAD!

hehe Butterfly labs

[S4VV4S]

WOW - somehow off topic....

The link you sent me of his profile...

Check the trust rating and you will find this guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198

F*ck me I have NEVER seen a trust rating THAT BAD!

hehe Butterfly labs

LOL

Makes sense....

I didn't get fucked by them so I didn't know 

[UsernameBitcoin]

Fair enough.

However, what makes you think that SR was not a 3 letter agency project to begin with?
It has been said by Ross before that he is NOT the original creator of SR and apart from that we all know how the 3 letter agencies "work" right?

Thanks for your input though.

EDIT: You do know that most hackers smoke pot or do some kind of drugs right?
What makes you think Edward didn't?

Sure, anything is possible. I just think it's so very likely that some character like Ross creates SR. Everything fits: young guy, open-minded to drugs but not too extreme, living in San Francisco, interested in teachings of Austrian school of economics, internet savvy, free and careless spirit.

Further, DPR was anti-government and he created things like the Book Club. The government would neither have these ideas nor like to promote them. This also is a big difference towards Snowden. Snowden is not anti-government. He just doesn't like that an agency is capable of acting without the control of senate,congress,etc.

I've watched many interviews with Snowden and in my opinion he seems pretty focused and analytical. I don't see a creative and hedonistic person but rather someone who acts very rational and organized.
I wouldn't be surprised if he prefers to endure a headache instead of taking an aspirin. Just my impression, though.

[S4VV4S]

Fair enough.

However, what makes you think that SR was not a 3 letter agency project to begin with?
It has been said by Ross before that he is NOT the original creator of SR and apart from that we all know how the 3 letter agencies "work" right?

Thanks for your input though.

EDIT: You do know that most hackers smoke pot or do some kind of drugs right?
What makes you think Edward didn't?

Sure, anything is possible. I just think it's so very likely that some character like Ross creates SR. Everything fits: young guy, open-minded to drugs but not too extreme, living in San Francisco, interested in teachings of Austrian school of economics, internet savvy, free and careless spirit.

Further, DPR was anti-government and he created things like the Book Club. The government would neither have these ideas nor like to promote them. This also is a big difference towards Snowden. Snowden is not anti-government. He just doesn't like that an agency is capable of acting without the control of senate,congress,etc.

I've watched many interviews with Snowden and in my opinion he seems pretty focused and analytical. I don't see a creative and hedonistic person but rather someone who acts very rational and organized.
I wouldn't be surprised if he prefers to endure a headache instead of taking an aspirin. Just my impression, though.

Nice!

Can I ask what your profession/activity is?

[UsernameBitcoin]

Nice!

Can I ask what your profession/activity is?

Thanks. Sure, I work as a freelancer, currently marketing for a start-up. In the past, I did mostly internal communication projects within big companies.

[AGD]

OK, don't bash me if you think this is stupid but.....

Did any of yous considered the fact that Edward Snowden is VJ?

I won't bash you and welcome all theories but I think it's stupid...

What Snowden revealed has a much bigger impact. Everyone is affected. His revelations influenced world politics and economics.
Silkroad, even though it made millions, was a small niche in the global drug trade. Only a very small percentage of the population have even heard of it. Even smaller the amount of people who used it.
Honestly, I don't think the NSA cares very much about SR. Maybe only if they want to give a new employee a training project.

Ross is a dreamer who thought he can change the world through his idea of a free market. And make lots of money, have fun. He has this careless and free attitude.
Snowden is a pure idealist. He wants to improve democracy. He is convinced something on a large scale goes terribly wrong. He knew he has to give up his freedom and economic benefits for his believes.

Fair enough.

However, what makes you think that SR was not a 3 letter agency project to begin with?
It has been said by Ross before that he is NOT the original creator of SR and apart from that we all know how the 3 letter agencies "work" right?

Thanks for your input though.

EDIT: You do know that most hackers smoke pot or do some kind of drugs right?
What makes you think Edward didn't?

Ross IS the original creator of Silkroad. He admitted that he has created the site. VJ helped him to make it more secure and changed the appearance and philosophy of the site. (Source: Ross' journal)

Looks like Silk Road got VJ's and Shabang's attention about that time, when the Gawker article came out. They both registered at SR June 27 2011.
On August 16, DPR was looking for unix admins. I am pretty sure VJ was one of the first to get that job. He closed security holes and he also started to influence DPR. (Journal: "chatted with VJ again today. Him coming onto the scene has re inspired me and given me direction on the SR project.")

He was controlling practically everything inside SR a few weeks after registering his account.

One question, that comes to my mind now, is that about the vulnerability in bitcoind, that VJ presented to Ross. I never heard of a vulnerability in bitcoind in 2011! Does anyone know more about that vuln? Does it have a CVE?

Could it be, that this bitcoind story was made up by VJ to gain control over the monetary system of SR?

[S4VV4S]

OK, don't bash me if you think this is stupid but.....

Did any of yous considered the fact that Edward Snowden is VJ?

I won't bash you and welcome all theories but I think it's stupid...

What Snowden revealed has a much bigger impact. Everyone is affected. His revelations influenced world politics and economics.
Silkroad, even though it made millions, was a small niche in the global drug trade. Only a very small percentage of the population have even heard of it. Even smaller the amount of people who used it.
Honestly, I don't think the NSA cares very much about SR. Maybe only if they want to give a new employee a training project.

Ross is a dreamer who thought he can change the world through his idea of a free market. And make lots of money, have fun. He has this careless and free attitude.
Snowden is a pure idealist. He wants to improve democracy. He is convinced something on a large scale goes terribly wrong. He knew he has to give up his freedom and economic benefits for his believes.

Fair enough.

However, what makes you think that SR was not a 3 letter agency project to begin with?
It has been said by Ross before that he is NOT the original creator of SR and apart from that we all know how the 3 letter agencies "work" right?

Thanks for your input though.

EDIT: You do know that most hackers smoke pot or do some kind of drugs right?
What makes you think Edward didn't?

Ross IS the original creator of Silkroad. He admitted that he has created the site. VJ helped him to make it more secure and changed the appearance and philosophy of the site. (Source: Ross' journal)

Looks like Silk Road got VJ's and Shabang's attention about that time, when the Gawker article came out. They both registered at SR June 27 2011.
On August 16, DPR was looking for unix admins. I am pretty sure VJ was one of the first to get that job. He closed security holes and he also started to influence DPR. (Journal: "chatted with VJ again today. Him coming onto the scene has re inspired me and given me direction on the SR project.")

He was controlling practically everything inside SR a few weeks after registering his account.

One question, that comes to my mind now, is that about the vulnerability in bitcoind, that VJ presented to Ross. I never heard of a vulnerability in bitcoind in 2011! Does anyone know more about that vuln? Does it have a CVE?

Could it be, that this bitcoind story was made up by VJ to gain control over the monetary system of SR?

You sure?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/an-interview-with-a-digital-drug-lord-the-silk-roads-dread-pirate-roberts-qa/

AG: What inspired you to start the Silk Road? Not just philosophically, (that’s covered in lots of your posts on the Silk Road forums) but where did the idea come from?

DPR: I didn’t start the Silk Road, my predecessor did. From what I understand, it was an original idea to combine Bitcoin and Tor to create an anonymous market. Everything was in place, he just put the pieces together.

Apart from that,
WHY on earth would ANYONE keep a journal of their criminal activities, especially not coded in a form only they will understand?

EDIT: From the article

Can you tell me anything about the original creator of the Silk Road? How did you meet? And did you acquire the Silk Road from him in a financial deal of some kind, or simply take over the project?

He was well compensated and happy with our arrangement. It was his idea to pass the torch in fact. We met through the site. I had discovered a big vulnerability in the way he had configured the main Bitcoin wallet that was being used to process all of the deposits and withdrawals on the site. At first he ignored me, but I persisted and gained his trust by helping him secure the wallet. From there we became close friends working on Silk Road together.

Wait, what?
Wasn't it VJ that found the vulnerabilities???

[AGD]

After all these assassination plots and arrests, Ross was highly alerted and he had a good reason to start hiding his identity as much as possible. I think he discussed this with VJ and it is possible that VJ made that interview for Ross. Possible that it was VJ who started SR2 with the nick DPR2 or TheRealDreadPirateRoberts.

It is also possible, that VJ planted the journal on Ross computer.

[S4VV4S]

After all these assassination plots and arrests, Ross was highly alerted and he had a good reason to start hiding his identity as much as possible. I think he discussed this with VJ and it is possible that VJ made that interview for Ross. Possible that it was VJ who started SR2 with the nick DPR2 or TheRealDreadPirateRoberts.

It is also possible, that VJ planted the journal on Ross computer.

Then it is also posible that VJ was an agent, hence never "found".

Also, the same shit happened in SR2: http://www.wired.com/2014/11/feds-seize-silk-road-2/

An undercover Homeland Security agent was paid $32,189 worth of bitcoin for work the agent did for the site.

[AGD]

After all these assassination plots and arrests, Ross was highly alerted and he had a good reason to start hiding his identity as much as possible. I think he discussed this with VJ and it is possible that VJ made that interview for Ross. Possible that it was VJ who started SR2 with the nick DPR2 or TheRealDreadPirateRoberts.

It is also possible, that VJ planted the journal on Ross computer.

Then it is also posible that VJ was an agent, hence never "found".

Also, the same shit happened in SR2: http://www.wired.com/2014/11/feds-seize-silk-road-2/

An undercover Homeland Security agent was paid $32,189 worth of bitcoin for work the agent did for the site.

Its possible, but I find it unlikely that VJ was an agent. I find the theory of lamoustache, that VJ is PluralofMongoose aka Thomas Clark the most convincing as by now.

[elasticband]

very interesting read, noticed some interesting expenses and profits whilst going over the "SR accounts"








In the first image, it kind of looks like SR was just getting milked for all it was worth at the end..... $2,000,000 mtgox theft........ no wonder whoever stopped accounting the profits and loss toward the end.

[AGD]

You can connect some, if not most of the payments with the timeline at http://antilop.cc/sr/#timeline

For example this "op greenville" is dated while the "murder" of Curtis Green took place:

21/02/2013 - Undercover Agent tells DPR that The employee (Curtis Green) "died of asphyxiation/heart rupture" while being tortured and sends DPR a fake pic.

That day he spent 162000$ for "op greenville" (op like operation, like if he moved his ass somehow to make part of the op. lol . He sat on a couch at his home or at a library and tipped some stuff on his keyboard. Thats all)


edit: That 2 Mio USD "theft from MtGox" entry happening at the same time, when this happened:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/05/feds-reveal-the-search-warrant-that-seized-mt-gox-account/

Looks like there is much more connection between Silk Road and MtGox, than I thought...

[S4VV4S]

@elasticband, very interesting finds.

Where can I get those files?
The SR accounts I mean.

BTW did you guys notice the last entry on the last image?
It says payroll (sr2.0) ....

Apart from that, this goes to show that VJ aka cimon was getting paid by Ross.

Also, who is the hacker he kept paying?
And what for?

You can connect some, if not most of the payments with the timeline at http://antilop.cc/sr/#timeline

For example this "op greenville" is dated while the "murder" of Curtis Green took place:

21/02/2013 - Undercover Agent tells DPR that The employee (Curtis Green) "died of asphyxiation/heart rupture" while being tortured and sends DPR a fake pic.

That day he spent 162000$ for "op greenville" (op like operation, like if he moved his ass somehow to make part of the op. lol . He sat on a couch at his home or at a library and tipped some stuff on his keyboard. Thats all)


-snip-

^^^ that makes sense

[elasticband]

.......

Yes some of it is very easy to connect, but others not so much.

Like what was DPR investing in at that time period when he was receiving profits from investments?

what was the $10,000 to "slush" who is slush? is that french slush?

why so many payments to cimon?

why did SR have $2,000,000 held in MTGOX? profits upto that point don't even meet 1/4 of that, so they were holding escrow funds in MTGOX?


what is the "cimon debacle development" that cost $98,000, was that a payment for a hit?

where and whom did they buy FPGA's from?

why was cimon paid for FPGA's?

expense sheet - http://antilop.cc/sr/exhibits/253456480-Silk-Road-exhibits-GX-250.pdf
why so many payments to the hacker?

so many questions.....