Who is "Variety Jones"?

[nbrk]

Hmmm, it is possible that the 300,000 BTC is from the sale of SR1 although I am not sure I believe that it was sold. It was also no secret that SR was the target of law enforcement, so I think it would be a very bad idea to be within "a mile" of running SR after selling it, or really even be in any kind of communication with the new owner.

Another inconsistency in POM/VJ's story is that he most likely gave more then enough information for him to get DOX'ed but he had claimed that his identity would not be revealed in the beginning of the story. Also I find it strange that diamond/-cwt was able to so easily DOX VJ despite so little information being available about him, and the lack of any trace of his RL identity.

My speculation is that the story is meant to be something that might be able to generate "reasonable doubt" in Ross's case.

"Also I find it strange that diamond/-cwt was able to so easily DOX VJ despite so little information being available about him, and the lack of any trace of his RL identity. "

Your words. Not anyone else's. It's interesting though. Assuming Charger and "VJ" shared accounts (they did), it follows they shared passwords. There are whisperings around the camp-fire that charger/shebang (Wattier) is in prison. It would then make sense that anyone with federal ballbag inclinations might have easy access to said shared password. It would then follow and fit that if said fantasy is true, then Motherboard has been gypped by a fed. It may also be true that VJ himself is a rogue asset and his story is actually just a carrier for some kind of threat/subtext/whatnot (put on another layer of tinfoil).

Otherwise this entire motherboard thing was a big coincidence, and possibly a catalyst for VJ's 'revelations'. Hmmf.

But the fact still stands. Why is R T Clark still home and free... OR IS HE? (Aaand I've run out of tinfoil).

Another mystery is varietyjones.com et.al. Someone is clearly trying to frame Atlantis on PoM. In those incriminating photos the power-plugs are American. Shortly after noticing this (it was the big pic of the desk+window) I went to re-check and found that picture had been cropped -- or I've just forgotten the directory the original picture is in (ginger beer affects your memory). Either way (I believe) those pictures are not PoM's truly. So it is possible varietyjones.com is being run by Diamond as a honeypot (say cheese!). PoM mentioned Atlantis folks being blackmailed by Diamond. So it is possible these photos are part of that blackmail package and are being used as mud/disinformation.

I find it very fucking fishy that VJ has very little to say about the website (and I want to believe (Fuck the FBI)). He holds that it is the work of some kind of merry prankster. I guess it sounds stupid, but it also seems too big to ignore. Either the person who made the site knew motherboard was going to open the can, and thought it would help the mud campaign, or, for some fucking dumb reason VJ shat on his own front doorstep, and when discovered, slowly backed away and pointed at Diamond. I don't know what to believe *sobs, and crawls up into a ball* *wails*

How was he able to board a flight two days before SR went down, and 'three' times after that? Why are the authorities stumped into silence? I get the feeling this all came out in the open, not through a threat to Rosses old folks, but from a threat to VJ. I hope I am wrong, and that this Diamond character gets ousted, and that VJ gets a deal.... Just getting the vague, sick feeling.

One thing is certain. In all of these very half-baked scenarios the FBI consistently comes across as a conga-line of unprincipled, backstabbing, politically warped, slightly evolved chimpanzee's from hell. Also: stop extorting people (*whispers* it gives them a genuine reason to fucking exist). There. Everything is fixed and you can all go home now.

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[AGD]

First mentioning of the connection VJ-PoM was made in this thread on March 2 2015:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935434.msg10632762#msg10632762

SherlockHolmes
   
Re: Who is "Variety Jones"?
March 02, 2015, 05:46:13 PM
   
First mention of Variety Jones was by PoM in the Overgrow stories.  There are people in the UK weed scene who know who he is.

A lot of people knew about his court appearance against Gypsy Nirvana which lead to the dox of PoM beeing Thomas Clark, back when it happened, so it was pretty easy for an official to find him simply by searching for his real name in passengers lists etc.
As we know, the FBI had access to the NSA bulk database, so if this Mr. Diamond really exists, he would have an easy job to find out whatever he wants about almost everybody in this panopticum called planet earth.

This complete story is as shady as 5 guys smoking pot in a closed car. I can't wait for somebody open that doors ....

[AGD]

http://www.coindesk.com/rogue-fbi-agent-searching-for-lost-bitcoin-silk-road-advisor-alleges/

That's how things turn out now. VICE doxxed Thomas Clark beginning this month. Bravo.
Why the hell did I know this name since early March???

[Betwrong]

... his mother already stated in different interviews .. that there is no hidden wallet , and no hidden BTC out there , at least not something she is aware of .

Are you serious? Would she be stating the opposite in case she knew there is a wallet?
I'm not saying there is a wallet though. Unfortunately, it seems that Ross was keeping everything on that damn laptop.

[Quickseller]

Hmmm, it is possible that the 300,000 BTC is from the sale of SR1 although I am not sure I believe that it was sold. It was also no secret that SR was the target of law enforcement, so I think it would be a very bad idea to be within "a mile" of running SR after selling it, or really even be in any kind of communication with the new owner.

Another inconsistency in POM/VJ's story is that he most likely gave more then enough information for him to get DOX'ed but he had claimed that his identity would not be revealed in the beginning of the story. Also I find it strange that diamond/-cwt was able to so easily DOX VJ despite so little information being available about him, and the lack of any trace of his RL identity.

My speculation is that the story is meant to be something that might be able to generate "reasonable doubt" in Ross's case.

"Also I find it strange that diamond/-cwt was able to so easily DOX VJ despite so little information being available about him, and the lack of any trace of his RL identity. "

Your words. Not anyone else's. It's interesting though. Assuming Charger and PoM shared accounts (they did), it follows they shared passwords. There are whisperings around the camp-fire that charger/shebang (Wattier) is in prison. It would then make sense that anyone with federal ballbag inclinations might have easy access to said shared password. It would then follow and fit that if said fantasy is true, then Motherboard has been gypped by a fed. It may also be true that VJ himself is a rogue asset and his story is actually just a carrier for some kind of threat/subtext/whatnot (put on another layer of tinfoil).

I really am not familiar enough with PoM and/or the myplanetganja scene to know one way or another if PoM and Charger shared accounts, although I have read in PoM's thread that they did/may have. I am not sure if someone in prison would be willing to give up their passwords that easily.

Otherwise this entire motherboard thing was a big coincidence, and possibly a catalyst for VJ's catalytic revelations. Hmmf.

But the fact still stands. Why is R T Clark still home and free... OR IS HE? (Aaand I've run out of tinfoil).

It is my understanding that a fake ID was really never hard to come by (and I assume the same would be true for a fake passport). In fact, fake ID's/Passports were sold on SR1 (Ross had even purchased some himself that were intercepted by Homeland Security), and AFAIK SR1 did not make it any easier to actually produce such fake IDs/Passports.

It is possible that Thomas Clark is an assumed alias that he assumed for when he was engaging in any kind of illegal activities, and that he is/has been in possession of a fake passport with the name Thomas Clark on it. I am not sure exactly how strongly the name Thomas Clark was associated with VJ/PoM, however if there were subtle clues that VJ/PoM is Thomas Clark is the same person then the fake identity theory may make more sense.

I don't think that VJ is law enforcement because there was at least one US senator publicly calling for SR's dismantle over a year before it was finally brought down, and it was my understanding that VJ actually made it more difficult for Ross to get caught after this public call and that Ross was doing very (supposedly) doing very illegal activity as of when this public call was made. 

Another mystery is varietyjones.com et.al. Someone is clearly trying to frame Atlantis on PoM. In those incriminating photos the power-plugs are American. Shortly after noticing this (it was the big pic of the desk+window) I went to re-check and found that picture had been cropped -- or I've just forgotten the directory the original picture is in (apparently weed affects your short term memory). Either way (I believe) those pictures are not PoM's truly. So it is possible varietyjones.com is being run by Diamond as a honeypot (say cheese!). PoM mentioned Atlantis folks being blackmailed by Diamond. So it is possible these photos are part of that blackmail package and are being used as mud/disinformation.

It has been claimed that PoM is not behing ths varietyjones.com website, so any information found there is likely not a direct source.

I find it very fucking fishy that VJ has very little to say about the website (and I want to believe (Fuck the FBI)). He holds that it is the work of some kind of merry prankster. I guess it sounds stupid, but it also seems too big to ignore. Either the person who made the site knew motherboard was going to open the can, and thought it would help the mud campaign, or, for some fucking dumb reason VJ shat on his own front doorstep, and when discovered, slowly backed away and pointed at Diamond. I don't know what to believe *sobs, and crawls up into a ball* *wails*

It could be a number of things, but based on the donation link, I would not be surprised if it is someone trying to make some money off of their research.

How was he able to board a flight two days before SR went down, and 'three' times after that? Why are the authorities stumped into silence? I get the feeling this all came out in the open, not through a threat to Rosses old folks, but from a threat to VJ. I hope I am wrong, and that this Diamond character gets ousted, and that VJ gets a deal.... Just getting the vague, sick feeling.

He was able to board flights when SR1 was taken down because his dox was (apparently) not in Ross's possession when he was arrested (it is my understanding that the dox of all the moderators were on his laptop and not the SR servers). The other moderators were able to get arrested/charged because their identity was fairly easy to determine from their dox (plus I am sure that the DOJ was able to trace the bitcoin from their payments from SR to where ever they cashed out to further confirm their identity).

One thing is certain. In all of these very half-baked scenarios the FBI consistently comes across as a conga-line of unprincipled, backstabbing, politically warped, slightly evolved chimpanzee's from hell. Also: stop extorting people (*whispers* it gives them a genuine reason to fucking exist). There. Everything is fixed and you can all go home now.

The FBI does not come out looking good even before last week. The way the found Ross was sketchy at best, and more likely was done by doing something illegal/unconstitutional. Also in the process of bringing down SR1, they had at least two agents act extremely unethically, and potentially encouraged Ross to commit several crimes that he will get charged with.

[Quickseller]

First mentioning of the connection VJ-PoM was made in this thread on March 2 2015:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935434.msg10632762#msg10632762

SherlockHolmes
   
Re: Who is "Variety Jones"?
March 02, 2015, 05:46:13 PM
   
First mention of Variety Jones was by PoM in the Overgrow stories.  There are people in the UK weed scene who know who he is.

A lot of people knew about his court appearance against Gypsy Nirvana which lead to the dox of PoM beeing Thomas Clark, back when it happened, so it was pretty easy for an official to find him simply by searching for his real name in passengers lists etc.
As we know, the FBI had access to the NSA bulk database, so if this Mr. Diamond really exists, he would have an easy job to find out whatever he wants about almost everybody in this panopticum called planet earth.

This complete story is as shady as 5 guys smoking pot in a closed car. I can't wait for somebody open that doors ....

Do you think PoM *really* was incarcerated as he claims to have been, and do you believe that Thomas Clark is his *real* identity?

I personally find it hard to believe that VJ would be able to advise Ross while inside prison, although I really have zero expertise in the being in jail/prison field so I really cannot say this with a lot of authority. 

[AGD]

First mentioning of the connection VJ-PoM was made in this thread on March 2 2015:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935434.msg10632762#msg10632762

SherlockHolmes
   
Re: Who is "Variety Jones"?
March 02, 2015, 05:46:13 PM
   
First mention of Variety Jones was by PoM in the Overgrow stories.  There are people in the UK weed scene who know who he is.

A lot of people knew about his court appearance against Gypsy Nirvana which lead to the dox of PoM beeing Thomas Clark, back when it happened, so it was pretty easy for an official to find him simply by searching for his real name in passengers lists etc.
As we know, the FBI had access to the NSA bulk database, so if this Mr. Diamond really exists, he would have an easy job to find out whatever he wants about almost everybody in this panopticum called planet earth.

This complete story is as shady as 5 guys smoking pot in a closed car. I can't wait for somebody open that doors ....

Do you think PoM *really* was incarcerated as he claims to have been, and do you believe that Thomas Clark is his *real* identity?

I personally find it hard to believe that VJ would be able to advise Ross while inside prison, although I really have zero expertise in the being in jail/prison field so I really cannot say this with a lot of authority. 

I am 99% sure, that PoM is Thomas Clark.
Now, it is still unclear, if his door/jail story is true or if this Diamond really exists. We also don't know if PoM really was VJ over the whole time. It is possible, that somebody else took over the VJ moniker. It is possible, that the chatlogs, that were found on Ross' computer, were tampered in a way to prepare his life sentence.

The first thing, that brought up the connection between VJ and PoM was in the chatlogs, where VJ made that PoM statement. This could have been an error of VJ (because he assumed, that Ross will not save his chatlogs), or the intention to put a false trail (maybe someone who knew PoM from back in the days"). After Motherboard was able to read VJ's emails it seems to be clear, that PoM was Variety Jones, at least at one point in time. Dunno if this could be part of that fake trail or how reliable these emails are. I didn't read them.

Fact is. that PoM is (at least) letting everybody think, that he was Variety Jones at one point, but at the same time he states, that he was not the "SR architect" that Motherboard called him. Wouldn't it be pretty idiotic to admit beeing the No. 2 of SR if you had nothing to do with it?

Another fact is, that Ross Ulbricht was sentenced to life for crimes, that doesn't justify this punishment.

If I put this Diamond character into the story, then there are a lot of things, that start making sense to me. This means, if PoM has made up the story, he made it well researched, entertaining and credible (up to a certain point). I would still not understand the reason, why he would be putting himself in the spotlight of the authorities, esp. when facing a life sentence - just for a good story? GTFOH...

[roller24]

Great Thread! POM has posted his version of this story at myplanetganja. He is an old friend and I have no doubts about him getting heavily involved w/ SR. I also suspect that he was the original VJ as he certainly had the connections and access to that volume of seeds. His relationship with GypNir and his wife was significant.
I don't ever recall him being saavy enough to hack a website, but his personality and obviously gifted intellect, and some techy jargon, could have enabled him to gain any admins trust, especially if he had a surplus of inventory to enlarge the market.
Is he a victim? NO, he is known for his civil disobedience as a cannabis activist, and also known for an ongoing feud with GN. So mud has be slung for years, and no reputations have gone unblemished. Accusations and rumors of narcs and informants, underhanded business dealings, all draped by an army of trolls with multiple accounts shared amongst each other within various factions.
Is his story credible? HELL, I dunno.
I believe it to be true, but I also have a feeling that there is a lot more to this iceberg than meets the eye.

[nbrk]

I keep having outlandish ideas. Please, again, consider it all half-bakery.

The more I think about the VJ websites and the "games" in terms of extortion, the more sense they make. Clues are innuendo( or just cover), and ransoms are paid by passing electrum wallet restoration pass-phrases. Just a thought.

The edited atlantis picture on vj.com has a big red pantomime cross over it. It was either the picture that lead the extortionist to the rest of the "portfolio", later backed up to vj.com and https://imgur.com/user/0xCE5 (https://imgur.com/zqKHxlY) (interesting to check: https://www.reddit.com/user/0xCE5 <- less like clues, more like threats(but most likely a user account of the cicada 3301 people. Still weird factor times a billion.)).

Atlantis calling card posted to facebook on July 2, 2013

Atlantis sinks in September 20 2013

0xCE5 (https://imgur.com/zqKHxlY) gallery posted November 29 2013 (presumably as a hanging sword of Damocles)
Peeps in comment section complain that it isn't Original Content, and was actually the work of another user, who uploaded the pictures two months before (since vanished (for obv reasons)).

The 0xCE5 imgur profile points to varietyjones.com edit: 7-9 october varietyjones.com link removed

(intesting to note 0xCE5's last comment 10 days ago: "Pack behavior. Feels vulnerable, so chihuahua makes a tactical retreat. Master is behind them, so their backs are covered. Alert but comfy.")  edit: 7-9 october comment removed

So if this nonsense is the case, then the extortionist has been posing as variety jones. I guess if you want to have an identity that people can google and find the accusations of VJ extorting overgrow, and the fact that if you search hard enough you can easily pin the handle of vj upon pom and rtc, makes for a good identity to steal/scape goat. And what are the chances of a fed's patsy-pleasure-puppet ever being arrested? Of course things get awkward for the fuzz when PoM starts posting on myplanetanja.

Reason I'm not posting this on mpg is it's all just half-baked theories, and more suited to this thread. I guess we'll hear more the more gets uncovered.

edit: or the weirdest fucking game show in history: http://uncovering-cicada.wikia.com/wiki/November_2013_media_exposure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada_3301

edit: new theory. Variety Jones is Thomas Pynchon, and this entire thing has been a mixed media paranoia installation.

edit: But who said anything about Atlantis being extorted? Tipped off, me thinks (kind counts as extortion I guess). Now nothing makes even more sense. Fuck. Aside from the fact that whomever posted that calling card had, either very poor opsec (very), or a very good measure of goosechasing pratts like me. They could have used any old picture from any old place. It's all a load of bollocks. Sends me back to my original theory that VJ knew something Ross didn't, and back to original fantasy that the crt relationshit began with atlantis (I originally assumed, from the vj website that the reason he knew shit was going down on SR was because it was he(and friend) who were running atlantis, and therefore he who was warned by crt. Better explanation than crt just appearing on torchat out of nowhere). VJ denies it of course, so I then tried to make Atlantis fit else-how. I should really extract my dick from this hornet's nest now.

[Quickseller]

First mentioning of the connection VJ-PoM was made in this thread on March 2 2015:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935434.msg10632762#msg10632762

SherlockHolmes
   
Re: Who is "Variety Jones"?
March 02, 2015, 05:46:13 PM
   
First mention of Variety Jones was by PoM in the Overgrow stories.  There are people in the UK weed scene who know who he is.

A lot of people knew about his court appearance against Gypsy Nirvana which lead to the dox of PoM beeing Thomas Clark, back when it happened, so it was pretty easy for an official to find him simply by searching for his real name in passengers lists etc.
As we know, the FBI had access to the NSA bulk database, so if this Mr. Diamond really exists, he would have an easy job to find out whatever he wants about almost everybody in this panopticum called planet earth.

This complete story is as shady as 5 guys smoking pot in a closed car. I can't wait for somebody open that doors ....

Do you think PoM *really* was incarcerated as he claims to have been, and do you believe that Thomas Clark is his *real* identity?

I personally find it hard to believe that VJ would be able to advise Ross while inside prison, although I really have zero expertise in the being in jail/prison field so I really cannot say this with a lot of authority. 

I am 99% sure, that PoM is Thomas Clark.
Now, it is still unclear, if his door/jail story is true or if this Diamond really exists. We also don't know if PoM really was VJ over the whole time. It is possible, that somebody else took over the VJ moniker. It is possible, that the chatlogs, that were found on Ross' computer, were tampered in a way to prepare his life sentence.

The first thing, that brought up the connection between VJ and PoM was in the chatlogs, where VJ made that PoM statement. This could have been an error of VJ (because he assumed, that Ross will not save his chatlogs), or the intention to put a false trail (maybe someone who knew PoM from back in the days"). After Motherboard was able to read VJ's emails it seems to be clear, that PoM was Variety Jones, at least at one point in time. Dunno if this could be part of that fake trail or how reliable these emails are. I didn't read them.

Fact is. that PoM is (at least) letting everybody think, that he was Variety Jones at one point, but at the same time he states, that he was not the "SR architect" that Motherboard called him. Wouldn't it be pretty idiotic to admit beeing the No. 2 of SR if you had nothing to do with it?

Another fact is, that Ross Ulbricht was sentenced to life for crimes, that doesn't justify this punishment.

If I put this Diamond character into the story, then there are a lot of things, that start making sense to me. This means, if PoM has made up the story, he made it well researched, entertaining and credible (up to a certain point). I would still not understand the reason, why he would be putting himself in the spotlight of the authorities, esp. when facing a life sentence - just for a good story? GTFOH...

There is a strong connection between PoM/VJ and the name Thomas Clark. Even if Thomas Clark is PoM's legal name, both Thomas and Clark are very common names so tracking him down would be significantly more difficult then tracking down someone by the name of say Ross Ulbricht.

I believe that Thomas Clark is more likely to be an alias, possibly with fake ID/Passports to back up this alias/identity. The fact is that VJ was much too security conscientious to allow his identity to leak as easily as it did. There is no doubt that VJ knew that there would be a high probability that he would be charged with conspiracy if Ross/DPR was ever caught. I am not saying these charges would be appropriate, but I am just saying that such charges shouldn't be any kind of a surprise to VJ.   

You are correct in saying that the sentence that Ross received for the crimes the Government claimed he committed (in NY). This is assuming that the claims that Ross ordered the murder of multiple people is untrue, or that it is shown that Ross was coerced into ordering/paying for these murders (I somewhat believe that the later is true).

VJ would be well aware of the above fact, and my theory is that VJ may be potentially making up the story in order to discredit the testimony of anyone at the FBI who was involved in Ross's case, which would likely result in him being outright freed.

If you look at this post, more specifically the below part of it:

Secondly - You make it sound like these 300k Bitcoin are on a single wallet, protected by a single passphrase. When I go to the Bitcoin Top 100 Rich List, the largest wallets are in the 150k BTC range, and both of which have sent transactions out after Ross was arrested in Oct of last year, so even if these 2 top wallets were his, someone still has access and hasn't wiped them, which seem's unlikely. I suppose it could be 4.3 wallets worth 70k BTC each that are directly underneath the top 2 lists, as these address haven't transacted for a long while, but that just didn't match up with what was said. Now, I don't know if the Bitcoin Top 100 List includes all bitcoin addresses, but I'd imagine it does, as that would be the whole point. Can you shed some light on this?

It seems that most of the "richest" wallets/addresses have been ruled out because transactions have been signed from their private keys since Ross was arrested. Although to be fair, it is possible received the 300k over several payments, possibly over time and never spendlinked the addresses together, although I find this somewhat unlikely.

I don't think this story would give the government any additional reason or motivation to go after VJ that it did not previously have. If the dox of VJ is accurate, then the government would have certainly have had it by now because they have the power of the warrant to search myPlanetGanga's servers and the server of his email provider/host.

It is possible that VJ thought that his OPSEC was good enough so that he would not be able to get caught after publishing his story, and it is also possible that his story would get the government to not go after him because any potential testimony against him is already tainted.

Although the chances of this appears to be nearly 0%, it is also possible that some script kiddy was able to hack PoM's account to "tell a good story", but if this is true, then a lot of research apparently would have had to have been done.

Was this actually VJ who was just trying to "tell a good story"? No, absolutely not.

[~J~]

Has anyone posted "The Claw" video yet...?

[nbrk]

So a few days ago after a million reverse image lookups tracing back fromm the original Atlantis calling card I land here  https://imgur.com/EWhi4 (http://pikdit.com/i/kirby-makes-toad-soup/) (kirby makes mushroom soup is the title of that fridge image that was originally posted 2012, but that got re-uploaded by who I assumed was cwt, or diamond or whomever the fuck he is. Anyway I email the addr on the image to warn them that they've been caught in the middle a serious shit storm, this was yesterday or the day before. Then I look a little closer that that other link, and where it leads, and VJ's name is all over it again (in 2012!!) (edit: vj text added later I think)

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6079753165?page=15
damn, some rand0... wait a second.
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/nowkA-1580/hero/49261739        <--- look at the aliases
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6079753165?page=17  
Wheels within wheels...

(the profile was last updated on Sep 11, 2015 10:58 AM PDT)!!!!! Yet the forum post is from 2012. Smells very fucking motherfucking fishy.

I've posted this to pom, and I guess he can give his own theory, but I'm not in the business of extortion, so this is all going out now I know the images link all the way back to that diablo account and to VJ's own alias.

If I've fucked up with my reasoning now is the time to point it out

I honestly have no clue what. the. fuck. is going on, but it's been a hell of a dig, but I can't help but shaking the blaring fucking feeling I was meant to find all this. Like stumbling upon the cicada post -- that was probably not a cicada post, but it had all the hallmarks (blake quotes, ways of seeing quotes. It's like someone was desperate for some dipshit like me to pick up the thread down the neck of the goose and into its belly.)

Can someone with better detective skills than me tell me what the fuck is going on?


here are the other threads. Note the weird fucking title of the images, and understand why I'm erring on the side of a weird frame-up, kind of, I don't know:
https://imgur.com/UXw7h
https://imgur.com/XUU6H
https://imgur.com/NkJVf

Please remember that none of this is proof of anything. It is just linking photos down through history to an Alias (Variety Jones). PoM can't have known about any of this because if this was him why the fuck is it still all there??? What the fuck?

OK. Calm down you ginger-beer addled fuck.
Let's stick to facts and forget about speculation.
(Isn't that what Poirot always says? *looks at moustache*)
Date-wise the varietyjones 'hero' character was edited: "last-updated">Last updated on Sep 11, 2015 10:58 AM PDT
Motherboard published on: September 10, 2015 // 03:41 PM EST
so PDT mother published:   12:41:00pm PDT | Thursday, September 10, 2015
and Variety character edited:               Sep 11, 2015 10:58 AM PDT

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........... Either Diamond is a bit of a dopey slow on the uptake fuck, or POM panicked and rushed to implicate himself as quickly as he could (assuming the VJ character was edited (name changed?). Maybe that VJ tried to delete it.... why so late, so close, so.... ineffectual?

hmmmm. (Please don't kill me Diamond. I have so much to give.) Also it would help if someone into this shit could tell us if you can change a character's name? Maybe it's not possible? Maybe, I don't know shit about Diablo. Not really a gamer.

edit: Yes, you can delete characters, but not change their name. Factors in with the crumbs I followed that were put down over 2 months ago. So whoever was checking into that profile was check their handywork? Or am I overthinking this? Maybe VJ likes to implicate himself in shit for his own shits and giggles. Or's it's a double, tripple, about-turn bluff. No... that's dumb. But could diamond be this dumb? Hmmmmmm. *clears throat, inserts dick in wasps nest*. Diamond -- my password is what I think of you. *Clicks timer*. hint: Edward Snowden tweeted this 14 hrs ago: https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

btw: This is a hall of mirrors, and I still don't know what to believe.

[AGD]

Has anyone posted "The Claw" video yet...?

Never heard of that.

[nbrk]

The claw video is the gypsy nirvana video.

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I feel I should explain about cicada. The thing that first twigged it for me (that this could be a bait trail) was the CE5 reference. The varietyjones images *seem* like they could be a secret cache, but this CE5 thing...

Unbeknownst to us, there is/was a horde of high-functioning code crackers following an online crypto game called cicada 3301 (now stalled). What does 3301 mean? That's part of the puzzle. (hex)CE5=3301(dec). I only stumbled on this when the yahoo search engine helpfully suggested 3301 when I was searching for CE5 (google didn't give me squat, although I was probably typing it in backwards like a prat. ). I then found the CE5 reddit account which blatantly was giving 3301 style clues (cicada mixes crypto with high art).

When cicada began, people were confused as to who was running it. Due to the high art references it seemed odd for the run-of-mill DOD sponsored hacking challenges/cons/recruitment drives (see:defcon,hackaday,zebulun (I'm sure I remember that was funded by the navy?)? et. al.).

Turns out cicada was run by a bunch of lefties, and I think this is what contributed to it's loss of popularity. That and ironically enough, players laying false trails to gain an advantage.

These challenges attract high functioning types that are ideologically/ethically pretty vacant -- just more into the fantasy than the consequences side of things (and we all fall victim to that... oh dear(see:me(low-functioning idiot))). Funnily enough the winners of the first cicada were pretty miffed when they found no job offers from the NSA. I'm guessing Julian Assange, or whomever set it up didn't take that into account -- although he of all people should have known; having grown up in mathematics/engineering academia. Most engineers have a mechanical view of the world more suited to fundamentalism and making things fit into systems. The CIA wrote a paper actually pointing this fact out regarding the mystery as to why so many terrorists were also engineers.

Aaanyway, tl;dr: if you want someone who is in to following trails, to find your imigur account, you name it CE5. This trail was set over a year ago.

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What's up with all the Cicada 3301 references ? I see no immediate reasons why the two should be linked together ?

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[–]rolleicord 1 point 1 year ago

need more to bite...
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I saw no bites on the CE5 imigur account, but I've not read all the comments. I wouldn't be surprised.

There is an entire section in the 3301 wiki I posted about false trails. I didn't find this one listed. Also didn't find it in the legit trails, so I'm guessing a new entry needs to be made.

[AGD]

The claw video is the gypsy nirvana video.

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I feel I should explain about cicada. The thing that first twigged it for me (that this could be a bait trail) was the CE5 reference. The varietyjones images *seem* like they could be a secret cache, but this CE5 thing...

Unbeknownst to us, there is a horde of semi-autistic code crackers following an online crypto game called cicada 3301. What does 3301 mean? That's part of the puzzle. (hex)CE5=3301(dec). I only stumbled on this when the yahoo search engine helpfully suggested 3301 when I was searching for CE5 (google didn't give me squat, although I was probably typing it in backwards like a prat. ). I then found the CE5 reddit account which blatantly was giving 3301 style clues (cicada mixes crypto with high art).

When cicada began, people were confused as to who was running it. Due to the high art references it seemed odd for the run-of-mill DOD sponsored hacking challenges (see:defcon,hackaday,zebulun et. al.).

Turns out cicada was run by a bunch of lefties, and I think this is what contributed to it's loss of popularity. That and ironically enough, players laying false trails to gain an advantage.

These challenges attract high functioning types that are ideologically/ethically pretty clueless -- not dumb -- just more into the fantasy than the consequences side of things (and we all fall victim to that... oh dear). Funnily enough the winners of the first cicada were pretty miffed when they found no job offers from the NSA. I'm guessing Julian Assange, or whoever set it up didn't take that into account -- although he of all people should known; having grown up in mathematics/engineering academia. Most engineers have a mechanical view of the world more suited to fundamentalism and making things fit into systems. The CIA wrote a paper actually pointing this fact out regarding the mystery as to why so many terrorists were also engineers.

Aaanyway, tl;dr: if you want someone who is in to following trails, to find your imigur account, you name it CE5. This trail was set over a year ago.

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[–]rolleicord 1 point 1 year ago

need more to bite...
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I saw no bites on the CE5 imigur account, but I've not read all the comments. I wouldn't be surprised.

There is an entire section in the 3301 wiki I posted about false trails. I didn't find this one listed. Also didn't find it in the legit trails, so I'm guessing a new entry needs to be made.

I really don't understand your point. All this kiddy stuff about cicada and gaming. What are you trying to prove? That the FBI agent alias "Diamond" is the owner of the website varietyjones.com and registered an account at a gaming site with the nick "Variety Jones"?
Really, I don't get it...

[Brad Harrison]

Very interesting stuff, I will look into this stuff deeper myself

[nbrk]

Just that someone was trying to get people to look. *Seems* to have started out in a subtle way, but then escalated into all out provocation and "journalism". OK, this could all be a figment of my mania, but you would rather I didn't go into all these details? You ask me what I'm trying to prove -- only that I think this is a deliberate drama. Why? Yes. Why? You have the possibility of Atlantis people ( ‘Loera’ and ‘Vladimir’ or the facebook mod cicero) wanting to shift the blame, or some FBI folks not letting what they got on Atlantis go to waste, or maybe it's all just a weird game someone is playing. The 3noka stuff proves this stuff was being posted way back in 2012 (the original accounts and pictures), but a year ago, long after the atlantis skuttle, someone started re-posting links and images and created a character at the end of it all with the handle Variety Jones on one end,  and a website called varietyjones.com at the other. Someone with access to these original old accounts. What do you think they're trying to say?

again: "Aaanyway, tl;dr: if you want someone who is in to following trails, to find your imigur account, you name it CE5. "

Failing that you set up a website called varietyjones.com and put some poorly hidden incriminating shit in the images directory.

Failing that ... etc.

It's speculation with facts in-between. Maybe this was the plan... I guess mud sticks. Someone was going to find this stuff anyway. An earnest journalist, or an 'investigation'. Take your pick.

This is not the first time the fuzz have tried to muddy the name jones to cover their shit (a long bow?):
23/01/2013 - Undercover DEA agent Carl M. FORCE IV transfers 60 bitcoins into a DEA-controlled account known as "TrustUsJones." SF

interesting article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/25/most_of_dprs_treasure_still_buried_say_researchers/

this is interesting also: http://www.dailydot.com/crime/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-mark-karpales-fbi/
(Hi Jared -- are you hiding something? Cirrus, Cicero, and Chrysippus (Cercidas? Cimon?) all seem to have a certain sibilance...) TINFOIL ALERT

Penultimate edit?: The third explanation (the real one): http://www.myplanetganja.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=11022&sid=e9f57a0dfabf8340d5da9d41dad7e283&start=420#p144753

[Quickseller]

interesting article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/25/most_of_dprs_treasure_still_buried_say_researchers/

IIRC, the link between DPR and satoshi was that some of Hal's coins that he mined in Bitcoin's early days were sold on Mt Gox and that some coins that were linked to Silk Road were also sold on Mt Gox around the same time.

I don't remember reading anything about the evidence presented about the claim that only 22% of DPR's coins were seized, however if credible evidence was presented (or if there is credible evidence) then there may be more credibility to the diamond story

[plz2rmrf]

only registered to post, as i haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else yet.
https://i.imgur.com/2L2649M.png
taken from comment section of "Gypsy Nirvana Fap Tape - part 2"
likely 5 year old meaningless speculation, but a nice reminder that this could literally all be one old dude talking to himself.

[nbrk]

only registered to post, as i haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else yet.
https://i.imgur.com/2L2649M.png
taken from comment section of "Gypsy Nirvana Fap Tape - part 2"
likely 5 year old meaningless speculation, but a nice reminder that this could literally all be one old dude talking to himself.

Wouldn't put it past him. Still can't shake the feeling I've been manipulated in some obvious way (the double triplle about turn bluff theory that this is all self-generated pathos for his victim story -- still think it through. All the points don't add up. It's too messy. Who knows). But that comment looks like it was made by GN's #1 fanboy (himself).

"He's dreaming now," said Tweedledee: "and what do you think he's dreaming about?"
Alice said "Nobody can guess that."
"Why, about you!" Tweedledee exclaimed, clapping his hands triumphantly. "And if he left off dreaming about you, where do you suppose you'd be?"
"Where I am now, of course," said Alice.
"Not you!" Tweedledee retorted contemptuously. "You'd be nowhere. Why, you're only a sort of thing in his dream!"
"If that there King was to wake," added Tweedledum, "you'd go out — bang! — just like a candle!"
"I shouldn't!" Alice exclaimed indignantly. "Besides, if I'm only a sort of thing in his dream, what are you, I should like to know?"
"Ditto" said Tweedledum.
"Ditto, ditto!" cried Tweedledee.