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January 31, 2015, 04:46:27 PM
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PS, back to the actual topic of this thread, why is it ok Nubbins has still not removed his negative trust rating for UKCrypto even though he has proved beyond a doubt that he is not an alt of WoodCollector? Isn't this just more punitive punishment using the default trust system to punish people who dare disagree with him?

What are you, his dad? It's none of your fuckin concern. Mind your own business.

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January 31, 2015, 04:49:21 PM
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PS, back to the actual topic of this thread, why is it ok Nubbins has still not removed his negative trust rating for UKCrypto even though he has proved beyond a doubt that he is not an alt of WoodCollector? Isn't this just more punitive punishment using the default trust system to punish people who dare disagree with him?

What are you, his dad? It's none of your fuckin concern. Mind your own business.
Are you WoodColector's dad? It is none of your concern, but you sure as fuck made it yours. You made your behavior my concern when you abused the default trust system to neg me in a pathetic attempt to intimidate me. I guess you'll just have to deal with that now.
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January 31, 2015, 04:52:20 PM
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January 31, 2015, 04:54:35 PM
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RE: Keyzer Soze

Its not subjective enforcement of the rules, its just that moderator's don't have Nubbins/Vod on their trust lists, so they have no reason to respond. (besides Badbear who has addressed his stance on Vod)


Theymos, Badbear, and Hilariousandco took it upon themselves to lead the rallying cry to remove me.... even though they were not the ones who added me to their trust list, and they had no reason to respond, yet they did.

No I didn't. I had absolutely nothing to do with you being removed, but it was the right decision. You just didn't like that fact and because I was vocal about it.

So you weren't posting over and over in that thread chastising me? Sure looked like you were. Also you personally contacted Canaryinthemine to ask him to review the thread did you not? That does not sound like no involvement to me.


PS, back to the actual topic of this thread, why is it ok Nubbins has still not removed his negative trust rating for UKCrypto even though he has proved beyond a doubt that he is not an alt of WoodCollector? Isn't this just more punitive punishment using the default trust system to punish people who dare disagree with him?
hilariousandco did not post in the thread until he was responding to a PM from you soliciting support in the thread in question. I believe that he didn't actually post in it until you were officially removed from the default trust network (he actually posted immediately after BadBear confirmed that he excluded you from his trust list - thread in question). As to hilariousandco sending a PM to CITM, I have no idea however it wouldn't matter because by the time he removed your name, you were no longer in the default trust network. BadBear was essentially telling you that your trust feedback was inappropriate very early on in the thread.

Ironically BadBear has excluded Nubbins from his trust list, so even if CITM does not remove him from his trust list, it will only take one more person that is trusted by DefaultTrust to exclude him in order from him to be removed from the default trust network. Since CITM has more or less demonstrated that he is not interested in removing Nubbins from his trust list, the only way that he will be removed is from trust exclusions.
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January 31, 2015, 04:56:51 PM
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I love this thread, it has become.....



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January 31, 2015, 05:01:13 PM
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January 31, 2015, 05:02:48 PM
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January 31, 2015, 05:05:57 PM
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RE: Keyzer Soze

Its not subjective enforcement of the rules, its just that moderator's don't have Nubbins/Vod on their trust lists, so they have no reason to respond. (besides Badbear who has addressed his stance on Vod)


Theymos, Badbear, and Hilariousandco took it upon themselves to lead the rallying cry to remove me.... even though they were not the ones who added me to their trust list, and they had no reason to respond, yet they did.

No I didn't. I had absolutely nothing to do with you being removed, but it was the right decision. You just didn't like that fact and because I was vocal about it.

So you weren't posting over and over in that thread chastising me? Sure looked like you were. Also you personally contacted Canaryinthemine to ask him to review the thread did you not? That does not sound like no involvement to me.


PS, back to the actual topic of this thread, why is it ok Nubbins has still not removed his negative trust rating for UKCrypto even though he has proved beyond a doubt that he is not an alt of WoodCollector? Isn't this just more punitive punishment using the default trust system to punish people who dare disagree with him?
hilariousandco did not post in the thread until he was responding to a PM from you soliciting support in the thread in question. I believe that he didn't actually post in it until you were officially removed from the default trust network (he actually posted immediately after BadBear confirmed that he excluded you from his trust list - thread in question). As to hilariousandco sending a PM to CITM, I have no idea however it wouldn't matter because by the time he removed your name, you were no longer in the default trust network. BadBear was essentially telling you that your trust feedback was inappropriate very early on in the thread.

Ironically BadBear has excluded Nubbins from his trust list, so even if CITM does not remove him from his trust list, it will only take one more person that is trusted by DefaultTrust to exclude him in order from him to be removed from the default trust network. Since CITM has more or less demonstrated that he is not interested in removing Nubbins from his trust list, the only way that he will be removed is from trust exclusions.

I PMed Hilariousandco and asked him to speak on my behalf because I had cooperated with him more than once in the past to prune people he had found to be untrustworthy from my trust ratings. I assumed that this was evidence I cared about the default trust list's integrity, but according to him I was asking him to "shill" for me. This is not getting involved? This is adding to the shit slinging simply for asking him to speak in regards to my past behavior. Of course that didn't stop him from slinging shit for page after page then following me to other threads to do the same.
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January 31, 2015, 05:15:25 PM
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RE: Keyzer Soze

Its not subjective enforcement of the rules, its just that moderator's don't have Nubbins/Vod on their trust lists, so they have no reason to respond. (besides Badbear who has addressed his stance on Vod)


Theymos, Badbear, and Hilariousandco took it upon themselves to lead the rallying cry to remove me.... even though they were not the ones who added me to their trust list, and they had no reason to respond, yet they did.

No I didn't. I had absolutely nothing to do with you being removed, but it was the right decision. You just didn't like that fact and because I was vocal about it.

So you weren't posting over and over in that thread chastising me? Sure looked like you were. Also you personally contacted Canaryinthemine to ask him to review the thread did you not? That does not sound like no involvement to me.


PS, back to the actual topic of this thread, why is it ok Nubbins has still not removed his negative trust rating for UKCrypto even though he has proved beyond a doubt that he is not an alt of WoodCollector? Isn't this just more punitive punishment using the default trust system to punish people who dare disagree with him?
hilariousandco did not post in the thread until he was responding to a PM from you soliciting support in the thread in question. I believe that he didn't actually post in it until you were officially removed from the default trust network (he actually posted immediately after BadBear confirmed that he excluded you from his trust list - thread in question). As to hilariousandco sending a PM to CITM, I have no idea however it wouldn't matter because by the time he removed your name, you were no longer in the default trust network. BadBear was essentially telling you that your trust feedback was inappropriate very early on in the thread.

Ironically BadBear has excluded Nubbins from his trust list, so even if CITM does not remove him from his trust list, it will only take one more person that is trusted by DefaultTrust to exclude him in order from him to be removed from the default trust network. Since CITM has more or less demonstrated that he is not interested in removing Nubbins from his trust list, the only way that he will be removed is from trust exclusions.

I PMed Hilariousandco and asked him to speak on my behalf because I had cooperated with him more than once in the past to prune people he had found to be untrustworthy from my trust ratings. I assumed that this was evidence I cared about the default trust list's integrity, but according to him I was asking him to "shill" for me. This is not getting involved? This is adding to the shit slinging simply for asking him to speak in regards to my past behavior. Of course that didn't stop him from slinging shit for page after page then following me to other threads to do the same.
He didn't chime in until after you were removed though. I would say this would be evidence that he had nothing to do with you being removed. Just because he publicly supported you being removed after the fact does not mean that he actively tried to have you removed.

There have been several examples of people getting removed from the default trust network after abusing their position after you were removed and after trust exclusions were put into place.
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January 31, 2015, 05:29:05 PM
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I'm not inclined to remove nubbins because I trust him AND because he corrected his actions.  Basically he wasn't 100% aware of how trust operates, but once he understood it, he took appropriate actions.

It makes no sense to have a 1 strike policy especially if someone wasn't malicious about it and took corrective actions.  Most users still do not understand trust.

I along with others, patiently waited on Tecshare back then, to correct his abuse, he didn't... so he got removed.
I'm pretty sure I was the last one to drop him, even though Tecshare begged me not to.  I waited plenty of time for hot heads to cool down, however Tecshare demonstrated that he won't do the right thing at the end.
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January 31, 2015, 05:51:23 PM
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No I didn't. I had absolutely nothing to do with you being removed, but it was the right decision. You just didn't like that fact and because I was vocal about it.

So you weren't posting over and over in that thread chastising me? Sure looked like you were.

Yeah, after you were removed, which I had nothing to do with. I was just offering my opinion, just one you didn't like.

Also you personally contacted Canaryinthemine to ask him to review the thread did you not? That does not sound like no involvement to me.

Again, no I did not.

Quote from: TECSHARE link=topic=935984.msg10321009#msg10321009 date

I PMed Hilariousandco and asked him to speak on my behalf because I had cooperated with him more than once in the past to prune people he had found to be untrustworthy from my trust ratings. I assumed that this was evidence I cared about the default trust list's integrity, but according to him I was asking him to "shill" for me. This is not getting involved? This is adding to the shit slinging simply for asking him to speak in regards to my past behavior. Of course that didn't stop him from slinging shit for page after page then following me to other threads to do the same.

Just read what you're saying because you're contradicting yourself here. I only posted in the thread after you contacted me, only you didn't like what I had to say on the matter. It's also funny how you're ok with co-operating with me and others by removing people from your trust / helping scambust but the moment it turns sour for you everybody is a trust mafia mallcop scam buster with nothing better to do. And I wasn't following you around, you were just derailing every single thread you posted in making it all about you, and guess what you've done here?

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January 31, 2015, 05:59:23 PM
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I think it's best to stop posting in this thread... It's clear that it doesn't matter what you post, insanity will continue... So maybe considering not responding is better, at least that's what I'm doing now. Unwatched and disabled notifications on this thread.
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January 31, 2015, 06:05:46 PM
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I think it's best to stop posting in this thread... It's clear that it doesn't matter what you post, insanity will continue... So maybe considering not responding is better, at least that's what I'm doing now. Unwatched and disabled notifications on this thread.

+1. I may also suggest also looking the thread since it seems to have exhausted its purpose.

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Unwatched and disabled notifications on this thread.

+1. Enjoy, guys...

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January 31, 2015, 11:13:40 PM
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so much butthurt in this thread by TECSHARE.  Grin

It's funny because it seems like he can't even admit it. We all can see right through his little facade of putting up a front to deflect people seeing his butt hurt.


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February 01, 2015, 01:05:11 AM
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so much butthurt in this thread by TECSHARE.  Grin

It's funny because it seems like he can't even admit it. We all can see right through his little facade of putting up a front to deflect people seeing his butt hurt.



Wood you look here, amazing.

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February 01, 2015, 01:19:27 AM
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This is what you claim to be proof of his craftsmanship?



Supposed to be proof that he has the skill to make this? Are you being serious, I can't tell.





His video series will no doubt continie but what this is proof of is that he knows his way around wood which people have said he does not, he clearly knows what he is doing.
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February 01, 2015, 01:27:30 AM
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His video series will no doubt continie but what this is proof of is that he knows his way around wood which people have said he does not, he clearly knows what he is doing.

If he knew his way around wood he would know how to use benchdogs so his workpieces don't slip and slide around, but tell yourself what you need to.

The issue was not "if he knows his way around wood"...it was "if woodcollector could HAND CARVE at the level of detail in his pieces" not that he could just sometimes hand carve parts of a piece.


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February 01, 2015, 04:49:53 AM
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Quote from: TECSHARE link=topic=935984.msg10321009#msg10321009 date

I PMed Hilariousandco and asked him to speak on my behalf because I had cooperated with him more than once in the past to prune people he had found to be untrustworthy from my trust ratings. I assumed that this was evidence I cared about the default trust list's integrity, but according to him I was asking him to "shill" for me. This is not getting involved? This is adding to the shit slinging simply for asking him to speak in regards to my past behavior. Of course that didn't stop him from slinging shit for page after page then following me to other threads to do the same.

Just read what you're saying because you're contradicting yourself here. I only posted in the thread after you contacted me, only you didn't like what I had to say on the matter. It's also funny how you're ok with co-operating with me and others by removing people from your trust / helping scambust but the moment it turns sour for you everybody is a trust mafia mallcop scam buster with nothing better to do. And I wasn't following you around, you were just derailing every single thread you posted in making it all about you, and guess what you've done here?

Pruning people from my trust is not the same as "scambusting". If you had not have PMed me about it would not have even known. You have demonstrated yourself to be very personally emotionally involved in my activities for some reason and have demonstrated repeatedly your inability to control yourself and act in an unbiased manner. First of all, this was my OP to begin with, second I didn't turn this into being about me, your mob of ahole buddies did. First by abusing the feedback system to try to intimidate me into silence about their abuse, then by repeatedly bringing up past incidents as if it is evidence of something or relevant to this OP.

Everyone is always talking about how free speech is supposedly so carefully protected here, but when it is an unpopular opinion everyone has no problem joining a mob to try to destroy peoples reputations in order to stop them from speaking.

Enjoy the video series. I am sure you will find plenty more to speculate about and find new reasons to shift your standards of evidence yet again.
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February 01, 2015, 05:06:07 AM
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Everyone is always talking about how free speech is supposedly so carefully protected here, but when it is an unpopular opinion everyone has no problem joining a mob to try to destroy peoples reputations in order to stop them from speaking.

Free speech unless I disagree with it, then it's a "mob" trying to destroy reputations.

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