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... I see the day where almost no one has this type of heater to help heat the home  http://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-EW7707CM-Safeheat-ComforTemp-Oil-Filled/dp/B000TGDGLU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1423059354&sr=8-1&keywords=electric+radiator I run 2 s-3's at my friends office he has discounted power of 2.4 cents. His office is cold in the winter lack of heat and cold in the summer too much AC. The 2 s-3's are clocked to freq 312 and are being used as space heaters. He used to have a space heater now he has s-3's . I promised his secretary I would put one in her place by her desk. The avalon 4 should be perfect. I live in New Jersey we have 2 senior citizen housing spots built in the 70's both are about 10 miles from me. There are 1000 homes in those two spots every one uses baseboard electrical heat. Simple radiators very costly I believe the avalon 4 is perfect for them. Now we know a lot of seniors don't have any pc skills but quite a few do. I am really going to try to see if the avalon 4 can be promoted as a space heater for those with baseboard electrical radiator heating. Both the s-5 and the sp20 are not quite right for this application I think the avalon 4 is the exact item needed to do this. I see this as a real growth spot for home mining. Stay tuned for the new thread on this miner. If home mining has growth to come it could be this way. The radiator at amazon is 60 bucks. The avalon 4 is 400 usd. If it is really quiet 1 winter would capture a lot of the price difference. It may be a viable idea. |
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Don't buy Avalon... just a simple mantra.
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February 05, 2015, 02:52:55 PM |
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Don't buy Avalon... just a simple mantra.
Why is that? I'm about to buy a piece to put it beween sp20 and s3+(maybe s5 soon) |
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February 05, 2015, 03:23:25 PM |
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I am going to review the avalon 4.
I know that more then 1 year ago more like 2 years ago they were slow to ship out gear, but two years ago is a long time in the world of btc.
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February 05, 2015, 04:01:57 PM |
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Don't buy Avalon... just a simple mantra.
Why is that? I'm about to buy a piece to put it beween sp20 and s3+(maybe s5 soon) Ethically this company is one that people should avoid given they cost consumers millions in lost revenue with their chip fiasco. |
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Don't buy Avalon... just a simple mantra.
Why is that? I'm about to buy a piece to put it beween sp20 and s3+(maybe s5 soon) Ethically this company is one that people should avoid given they cost consumers millions in lost revenue with their chip fiasco. This piece of gear I get will be the first one I ever had from them. Most every builder has had fuckups. Asic Miner -------------The prisma Bitmaintech -----------The first s-2's Sp-Tech ----------------The sp30 Reading the forums some felt they got the correct fixes some say no. |
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Don't buy Avalon... just a simple mantra.
Why is that? I'm about to buy a piece to put it beween sp20 and s3+(maybe s5 soon) Ethically this company is one that people should avoid given they cost consumers millions in lost revenue with their chip fiasco. This piece of gear I get will be the first one I ever had from them. Most every builder has had fuckups. Asic Miner -------------The prisma Bitmaintech -----------The first s-2's Sp-Tech ----------------The sp30 Reading the forums some felt they got the correct fixes some say no. We refunded for the spec miss. (BMT had an issue with PSUs on the first batches of the S4 as well) |
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We refunded for the spec miss.
(BMT had an issue with PSUs on the first batches of the S4 as well)
From what I remember, there was a lot of fuss about the compensation not being adequate. Also, the SP20s initially had a problem with boards coming loose during shipping because they wasn't secured properly. Like Philip said, everyone has had some form of issues. |
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Also, the SP20s initially had a problem with boards coming loose during shipping because they wasn't secured properly.
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February 06, 2015, 05:12:56 AM |
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Don't buy Avalon... just a simple mantra.
Why is that? I'm about to buy a piece to put it beween sp20 and s3+(maybe s5 soon) Ethically this company is one that people should avoid given they cost consumers millions in lost revenue with their chip fiasco. This piece of gear I get will be the first one I ever had from them. Most every builder has had fuckups. Asic Miner -------------The prisma Bitmaintech -----------The first s-2's Sp-Tech ----------------The sp30 Reading the forums some felt they got the correct fixes some say no. No point to buying an Avalon given it is less efficient than competition and you will heavily mod it to meet your local needs. Just get an SP20 or S5 or next offering and do the same. Why support this company that price gouged and lost our community a fair number of good open source hardware teams? Perplexing. |
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I can't make any miner work at my power costs, .13 kwh  How the hell are you guys making it work,I see 12-16 month ROI after power costs  If the diff stays around 50 billion................ |
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I can't make any miner work at my power costs, .13 kwh How the hell are you guys making it work,I see 12-16 month ROI after power costs If the diff stays around 50 billion................ I am able to use the heat from my miners to help keep the home warm in the winter. thus my 13 cent power drops to 9.5 or 10 cents. I will have to sell all my miners int early May. I also host 2 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934581.0;allI may expand to 3 or 4 soon. I will keep these for a while longer. |
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If you guys want to try the Avalon4 let me know, I got small discount. Cheer Valkir  |
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February 06, 2015, 02:05:31 PM |
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Don't buy Avalon... just a simple mantra.
Why is that? I'm about to buy a piece to put it beween sp20 and s3+(maybe s5 soon) Ethically this company is one that people should avoid given they cost consumers millions in lost revenue with their chip fiasco. This piece of gear I get will be the first one I ever had from them. Most every builder has had fuckups. Asic Miner -------------The prisma Bitmaintech -----------The first s-2's Sp-Tech ----------------The sp30 Reading the forums some felt they got the correct fixes some say no. No point to buying an Avalon given it is less efficient than competition and you will heavily mod it to meet your local needs. Just get an SP20 or S5 or next offering and do the same. Why support this company that price gouged and lost our community a fair number of good open source hardware teams? Perplexing. Eh? The Avalon4 is the one miner out of the S5 + SP20 + Avalon4 trifecta that DOESN'T require modding to run at home. Both others often require intervention to get them quiet enough to run at home while the Avalon4 is infinitely quieter. |
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The Avalon is too pricey and requires a controller..silent is nice and all, but 0 chance to make any profit. Also they did sorta screw the mining community really bad...
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February 06, 2015, 02:51:33 PM |
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The Avalon is too pricey and requires a controller..silent is nice and all, but 0 chance to make any profit. Also they did sorta screw the mining community really bad...
We've been though this, Canaan Creative is NOT Avalon. CC has sold out of hand only for about 16 months now. |
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We've been though this, Canaan Creative is NOT Avalon.
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If people were strictly concerned with the ideology of home mining and not ROI'ing, they would just buy a dozen or less Bitmain U3's or a couple old S3's to underclock and get that warm fuzzy feeling inside. Doesn't change the fact that it makes no more sense than buying an Avalon 4 though.  Surely the U3's/S3's would be quiet too, and you would lose less of your money. Avalon project/Canaan missed the boat with this one, it was clear to see all the way back in the fall (too little too late). PS Has anyone buying these even run models? Even with 0% difficulty increase, $0.05/KWh and $300/BTC price (all quite unrealistic atm except maybe power cost), they would take over 200 days to ROI. Give your head a shake people. Anyone that is promoting these quite obviously has something to gain, and it's not your hand in friendship  . |
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February 06, 2015, 03:52:39 PM |
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The sp20 is great gear I have 9 of them. It is too loud .
The S-5 needs lots of mods to be quiet.
The avalon4 in theory is quieter and needs no mods to run as a space heater just set it to 400 watts and 800 gh.
If it can do this then it has a spot on the table of home miners. I am still waiting for the test model to reach me.
I will do a comparison to the two current models sp20 and s-5. Give my opinion if it is viable as a space heater replacement.
I am pretty much independent user and miner of gear for Bitcoin. I never used avalon to be fair I want demo this gear as I see a spot for it.
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