The smile patrol

[Maged]

I'm not clear - does smoothie have the option to buy at $11 at the end of October, or the obligation to do so?  i.e. can he elect to just pay the 25% and not take the coins without breaking terms of the contract?

Nope. I gotta buy 50 btc at $11 each.

And likewise, jcpham has to sell them. Either party breaks it, I'm going to see if Maged thinks that's grounds for a scammer tag.

Sounds about right. Scammer tags are applied to people who break a contract and don't attempt to resolve the issue in good faith. As always, we don't ban scammers.

In order to allow enough evidence for a possible scammer tag, be sure to either publicly post the bitcoin addresses involved and other proofs of payment, or message this info to a trusted scam investigator. Normally, the escrow agent you chose would also qualify, however, I don't know anything about arij...

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[myrkul]

In order to allow enough evidence for a possible scammer tag, be sure to either publicly post the bitcoin addresses involved and other proofs of payment, or message this info to a trusted scam investigator. Normally, the escrow agent you chose would also qualify, however, I don't know anything about arij...

Neither do I, but as I said, the BTC are in the address that arij posted, with the transaction that jcpham posted, so the chance of jpcham being labeled a scammer approaches 0. All that remains to be seen is if Smoothie ponies up the cash, and arij pulls off the escrow.

[myrkul]

arij is an independent third party I found just for this as an added bonus. He has -otc ratings, you can look them up. I don't like being threatened with bans when I'm the only one who is being serious, that's all. I was banned once here for being dumb already, I learned a lesson. Ban me again, shame on me.

If smoothie had any power to get someone banned, and if scammers got banned, it might have been a credible threat. As it is, it's silly to get your panties in a twist over it.

[Maged]

arij is an independent third party I found just for this as an added bonus. He has -otc ratings, you can look them up. I don't like being threatened with bans when I'm the only one who is being serious, that's all. I was banned once here for being dumb already, I learned a lesson. Ban me again, shame on me.

If smoothie had any power to get someone banned, and if scammers got banned, it might have been a credible threat. As it is, it's silly to get your panties in a twist over it.

Yeah, seriously: Don't worry about it.

[smoothie]

I'm looking for any reputable forum volunteers to do an escrow for this "futures" contract.

Please post here to this thread.

Thank you!

[myrkul]

I'm looking for any reputable forum volunteers to do an escrow for this "futures" contract.

Please post here to this thread.

Thank you!

Escrow has already been initiated. The BTC50 is already in the address below. All you have to do is set up the USD transfer. Clearly, you'll want to wait until October to actually send the money, though. I'll periodically check that address, and of course, everyone else is welcome to as well.

I agree to do the escrow. 50 BTC

1K2iCxLRTZStVTHK8cwoibXnRC5FJw1Sx

To be sent to smoothie on October 31st, 2012 once $550 payment is received.
and $550 forwarded to Jcpham.

Smoothie please contact me so we can arrange the payment of $550.

Have a nice day.

[Maged]

Escrow has already been initiated. The BTC50 is already in the address below. All you have to do is set up the USD transfer. Clearly, you'll want to wait until October to actually send the money, though. I'll periodically check that address, and of course, everyone else is welcome to as well.

I'm so confused... Why is it that you'll periodically check that address, again?

[smoothie]

I'm looking for any reputable forum volunteers to do an escrow for this "futures" contract.

Please post here to this thread.

Thank you!

Escrow has already been initiated. The BTC50 is already in the address below. All you have to do is set up the USD transfer. Clearly, you'll want to wait until October to actually send the money, though. I'll periodically check that address, and of course, everyone else is welcome to as well.

I agree to do the escrow. 50 BTC

1K2iCxLRTZStVTHK8cwoibXnRC5FJw1Sx

To be sent to smoothie on October 31st, 2012 once $550 payment is received.
and $550 forwarded to Jcpham.

Smoothie please contact me so we can arrange the payment of $550.

Have a nice day.

Yeah I got a PM from that username. Not sure if I'm comfortable sending USD to a non-established escrow member. This person's account was created last august and has barely posted to this forum.

Hence why I posted for volunteers.

How do I know that person isn't the same person as the person i'm dealing with and has a second account to "escrow" with?

Any volunteers who are active members of this forum?

[myrkul]

Escrow has already been initiated. The BTC50 is already in the address below. All you have to do is set up the USD transfer. Clearly, you'll want to wait until October to actually send the money, though. I'll periodically check that address, and of course, everyone else is welcome to as well.

I'm so confused... Why is it that you'll periodically check that address, again?

Got nothing better to do, so I figure I might as well volunteer my services?

[Maged]

Yeah I got a PM from that username. Not sure if I'm comfortable sending USD to a non-established escrow member. This person's account was created last august and has barely posted to this forum.

Totally agree. I'm surprised that anything was sent before the escrow agent was agreed upon.

Hence why I posted for volunteers.

How do I know that person isn't the same person as the person i'm dealing with and has a second account to "escrow" with?

Any volunteers who are active members of this forum?

I'm always happy to help. Otherwise, most of the major lenders also do escrow.

[smoothie]

Yeah I got a PM from that username. Not sure if I'm comfortable sending USD to a non-established escrow member. This person's account was created last august and has barely posted to this forum.

Totally agree. I'm surprised that anything was sent before the escrow agent was agreed upon.

Hence why I posted for volunteers.

How do I know that person isn't the same person as the person i'm dealing with and has a second account to "escrow" with?

Any volunteers who are active members of this forum?

I'm always happy to help. Otherwise, most of the major lenders also do escrow.

I pick maged for the escrow. That will be fine. The member who has the 50btc might want to send it back to the owner.

Thanks Maged!

[myrkul]

Yeah I got a PM from that username. Not sure if I'm comfortable sending USD to a non-established escrow member. This person's account was created last august and has barely posted to this forum.

Totally agree. I'm surprised that anything was sent before the escrow agent was agreed upon.

That does raise eyebrows. I'd chalk it up to jcpham just wanting to be done with this.

I pick maged for the escrow. That will be fine. The member who has the 50btc might want to send it back to the owner.

Thanks Maged!

^Who I would go with as well^

[Maged]

Sorry for the delay, but I had to quickly securely generate an address.


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[smoothie]

Sorry for the delay, but I had to quickly securely generate an address.


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Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32)

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+1 thanks

[smoothie]

I'm not surprised at all. I'm getting tired of jumping through your hoops, though.

Maged I trust because he is a mod.
arij I trust because he has OTC cred.
I don't give a shit who you trust and do not trust on this forum. I don't trust anyone from here, not one single person who I've met from this forum, not one.

So anyways, since arij was just chilling in #bitcoin and I made an annoucement that I was looking for an escrow, he chimed in and we made the deal.

Arij, if you want out of this nightmare, send the coins back to 12JREfAmTmFingQZazUyrdEciydF2YcQW9 or send them to Maged, who the fuck ever, I don't care.
I still owe you one btc for agreeing to do the escrow, please send that info to me on IRC or post it publicly, I'm washing my hands of this.

What hoops are you jumping through?

The deal is for this upcoming Halloween.

No one said you had to put the 50btc into escrow until then.

You are jumping through your own hoops my friend.

 

[imsaguy]

What's with the stream of idiots getting suckered into "bets" and then claiming afterward it's "for the lulz"?  We all know it's bullshit, so stop doing it.  It's like playing hard catch and acting as if a palm smack didn't hurt.  Of course it hurt.  The kid who claims it doesn't, with teary eyes, is just going to get more crap.

We pick on the weak.  Stop being weak.

Your mama is so fat that when she sits around the house, she sits AROUND the house.

[arij]

I've sent the coins to 12JREfAmTmFingQZazUyrdEciydF2YcQW9.

b19a4900d062446a4584495a532fa2fd3150ac97d17c96ff444618a45e9f75cf

[smoothie]

What's with the stream of idiots getting suckered into "bets" and then claiming afterward it's "for the lulz"?  We all know it's bullshit, so stop doing it.  It's like playing hard catch and acting as if a palm smack didn't hurt.  Of course it hurt.  The kid who claims it doesn't, with teary eyes, is just going to get more crap.

We pick on the weak.  Stop being weak.

Your mama is so fat that when she sits around the house, she sits AROUND the house.

Reeses you got some issues bro. It is for the lulz. I won't cry nor complain about it when the deal is done.

You're just butt hurt that someone beat you to the punch in making this deal. Get over it!

 

[smoothie]

This forum moves at a snail's pace and it pains me. 3 days to come to an agreement over 50btc. What the shit. Seriously, is this normal? Do you make decisions this slow in the real world? Why does this move at such a snail's pace? The dweebs usually make decisions faster than this in more real-time places. I imagine for every post someone has here on this forum, it means they missed out on a real good trading opportunity elsewhere.

I'm waiting on confirmations, Maged. I had no idea you guys would pounce on an unknown third party like that, I thought I was doing good by not escrowing with anyone I have any affiliation with at all, but no, that's just not quite good enough for you, you need someone with "forum reputation". Last time I checked it took 1 username, and one password to exploit an identity here.  I pick a random guy from IRC with several months of good trades to steward what amounts to a single bitcoin block reward for us and you say it seems sketchy. I say troll thread is obvious, here's my bitcoins anyways, suckers.

FWIW the authentication on IRC is most certainly 2-factor ( nickserv and GPG/bitcoin authentication ). We dweebs like knowing who we are dealing with. You guys are all socks AFAIK with nothing to lose, there's no way to establish actual trust here on this forum, regardless of what you might think. The only way I can imagine actual trust being established is to gpg-sign every freaking post. This forum does not prove your identity and has no way of doing so.

Well it is the FIRST known public bitcoin contract. Just chill man...we're making history! 

[myrkul]

I think someone got up on the wrong side of the stable this morning...