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January 29, 2015, 04:43:22 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fsmdlao.jpg&t=665&c=hJvdHh7NjKx0Fg) Looks fine to me Beijing’s mayor, Wang Anshun, has called the city “unliveable” because of its noxious smog, according to state media.
“To establish a first-tier, international, liveable and harmonious city, it is very important to establish a system of standards, and Beijing is currently doing this,” he said last Friday, according to the China Youth Daily newspaper.
“At the present time, however, Beijing is not a liveable city.”
Anshun’s speech came days before the market research company Euromonitor International announced, in its findings on the global tourism market in 2013, that tourism to Beijing had declined by 10% from the year before due to pollution and a countrywide economic slowdown.
The company’s top 100 city destination rankings, released on Tuesday, ranked Hong Kong, Singapore and Bangkok in its top three spots, followed by London and Paris. Beijing ranked 34th, in between Johannesburg and Sofia, Bulgaria. More... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/28/beijing-smog-unliveable-mayor-wang-anshun-chinaAny locals have any input on this situation?
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January 29, 2015, 05:19:36 AM |
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I visited Beijing a few years ago and it was indeed kind of bad. My wife is heading there in a couple weeks. I'll ask her what it's like then.
BTW, that picture of a grey sky is "not bad" for an overcast/foggy day, but pretty bad for a sunny day with a "clear sky".
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January 29, 2015, 10:09:52 AM |
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Forget global warming, that alone should be reason enough to get rid of all the fuels that emit those kind of fumes constantly, the last thing you want is to be breathing in smog on a daily basis, there are plenty of reasons to switch to cleaner fuels beyond "What could happen" when we have plenty of evidence on what has already happened to countries that just blatantly ignore everything that is going wrong with them.
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January 29, 2015, 10:14:43 AM Last edit: January 29, 2015, 10:25:38 AM by CIYAM |
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I lived in Beijing for seven years (up until the end of 2013) and the main reason that I don't live there now is because of the pollution.
About the only time it was really nice there was during the Olympics month of August and the first two weeks of September 2008 due to the fact that they shut down hundreds (or maybe thousands) of factories (and I guess some coal fired power plants) in the surrounding areas for a few months in order to improve the air quality (they also introduced rules about the last digit of the number plate and which days you can drive within the city in 2008 which are still enforced now I believe).
It isn't just the smog btw - all the construction (less now but was crazy in 2007) in such a dry and often windy place results in more dust than I've ever experienced in my life (you have to clean your floors at least once per week and virtually no-one uses carpet because of the dust). Even without all the construction the desertification of much of north west China and the annual weather patterns means that Beijing is subject to "dust storms" every spring (making it about the least pleasant time of year you'd want to be there).
If you are keen to visit Beijing then I'd recommend mid to late September (you generally get quite a few very nice sunny days then which are also not unbearably hot and humid).
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January 29, 2015, 05:01:29 PM |
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I think there's more than enough pictures available to support the mayor's premise: Google Image Search Beijing PollutionThat stuff looks pretty nasty.
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January 29, 2015, 05:03:01 PM Last edit: January 30, 2015, 09:21:58 AM by Lethn |
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Anywhere else they'd be wearing gas masks in that kind of environment lets be honest.
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January 29, 2015, 05:11:53 PM |
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Anywhere else they'd be wearing gas masks in that kind of envrionment lets be honest.
Many people do wear "mouth and nose" masks in Beijing (and not just because they are ill).
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January 29, 2015, 09:33:50 PM |
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If not already, in a few years the amount of people with lung diseases is going to be gigantic, everyone is a heavy smoker in there...
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January 30, 2015, 01:05:59 AM |
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They actually have marathons in that smog! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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January 30, 2015, 02:16:45 AM |
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Float/tether some blimps with carbon recyclers and hoses down to the ground.
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Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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January 30, 2015, 02:23:16 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fsmdlao.jpg&t=665&c=hJvdHh7NjKx0Fg) Looks fine to me Any locals have any input on this situation? I think its not visible, but the constituents in the air, that probably make it bad for health. I am sure this will pose a problem in the near future.
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At least masks there are cheap as dirt to make
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January 30, 2015, 09:09:37 AM |
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China make a lot of pollution yes, but the climate there makes it much worse!
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January 30, 2015, 10:11:26 AM |
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January 30, 2015, 10:54:40 AM |
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With that being said now comes the aftermath, ether the residence of cities like Beijing evacuate and relocate and change there business model, or they can stick around to slowly suffocate.
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January 30, 2015, 11:26:53 AM |
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This is the costs of economy growth, don't forget the London Smog?
But I would like to say this situation(smog) didn't happen every day, you could come across a sunny & clean weather in Beijing.
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January 30, 2015, 11:32:28 AM |
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This is what happens when the government doesn't care about people's health and want to save as much money as possible. Decades ago, there were proposals to replace gasoline-run vehicles in Beijing and Shanghai with those run with CNG. No one seriously considered it. Also, China is the no.1 consumer of coal, a highly polluting fuel.
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January 30, 2015, 11:46:54 AM |
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This is a strategy of China, you all never understand ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Let me show you why, We have polluted air, toxic food and contaminated water. After all of this things, our body been tempered, we have a strong heart. If the world war 3 happen, the nuclear way will be inevitable. The air,water and food on earth will be polluted. Do your know who will be survived? The answer will be Chinese people PS: Of course this is a joke.
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This is a strategy of China, you all never understand ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Let me show you why, We have polluted air, toxic food and contaminated water. After all of this things, our body been tempered, we have a strong heart. If the world war 3 happen, the nuclear way will be inevitable. The air,water and food on earth will be polluted. Do your know who will be survived? The answer will be Chinese people PS: Of course this is a joke. And don't forget the ARK they built to survive apocalypse in 2012 movie ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0ZAGtGr.jpg&t=665&c=mOMzh-99xhE9wA)
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