[INITIATIVE] Stop all "altcoin wars" in one click

[Moon Follow Me]

1) about email: majority of users don't care about their privacy
2) the rest can register an anon one at safe-mail.net for example or service like 10minutemail.com
UPD: anyway you need an email to register or recover password

Uhhhh.... no. The majority of users value their privacy above all other things. Just self moderate your threads if its an issue.

upd: please re-read the topic. this is not only my issue

[Moon Follow Me]

@SaltySpitoon
i also wonder how email verification affects on privacy?

[Hatch]

I agree...

What needs to be clearly understood is that opposition and hard discussions are not the issue. It is single individuals creating MULTIPLE disposable accounts to flood a topic with disinformation that is the problem.

Another idea that might make a nice option is a simple "full member" voting ban.

If enough "full member" (or higher maybe) participants in a thread vote you out because of your spam or disrespect, your gone. If you feel you were wronged, then you can try to appeal it through normal channels with the mods.

That would allow the majority of valued participants in a thread to stop excessive spam fud, and give EVERYONE an incentive to express themselves with proof AND respect, or take a chance of losing their current posting personality.

[dogie]

then you can try to appeal it through normal channels with the mods.

There are no mod appeal channels, very little on here is appeal-able per sais.

That would allow the majority of valued participants in a thread to stop excessive spam fud, and give EVERYONE an incentive to express themselves with proof AND respect, or take a chance of losing their current posting personality.

How does that fix your issue of multi accounting, that would just feed it? The more accounts you have in your example, the more power you have and the more members you can expel. So the more power you have.

[hilariousandco]

Another idea that might make a nice option is a simple "full member" voting ban.

If enough "full member" (or higher maybe) participants in a thread vote you out because of your spam or disrespect, your gone. If you feel you were wronged, then you can try to appeal it through normal channels with the mods.

That would allow the majority of valued participants in a thread to stop excessive spam fud, and give EVERYONE an incentive to express themselves with proof AND respect, or take a chance of losing their current posting personality.

This has been suggested before and it's a terrible idea and always gets shot down for the reasons dogie stated. People will just abuse this to stifle or get rid of discussion they don't like. Not easy to farm or buy the required amount of Full Members to abuse this.

[BitcoinEXpress]

@OP,


None of this is needed.

The "altcoin wars" thing is highly exaggerated.

Sure, there are some immature people but by far and large most aren't.

Just use the ignore feature.

Free speech is what is needed to prevent scammers, not censorship.


~BCX~

[redsn0w]

I think the email verification here was "removed" for  prevent any type of spam:

Changed the registration to require e-mail confirmation. The confirmation mail contains the user-given password, this might need fixing.

Is there any reason to have e-mail confirmation? If you're doing that out of spam concerns, I've already got that covered. I made some customizations to the registration HTML so any spambots designed for SMF won't be able to figure it out. The CAPTCHA image URL requires an extra parameter,
and there are 3 different CAPTCHA images, but only one shows because the others have stuff like width=0 height=0.

Yes, spam prevention was the purpose, but if there's no spam problem with immediate registration, I'll turn the e-mail activation off.

Source:  https://bitcointalk.org/first_topics/4.pdf

[Moon Follow Me]

@OP,


None of this is needed.

The "altcoin wars" thing is highly exaggerated.

Sure, there are some immature people but by far and large most aren't.

Just use the ignore feature.

Free speech is what is needed to prevent scammers, not censorship.


~BCX~

when it comes to blatant false scam accusations, ignoring the facts, repeating same fud OVER AND OVER AGAIN like this:

https://archive.today/Qcvj5
https://archive.today/B2r2m

open dialog is not enough.

and again, mods don't wanna ban them after several rules violations = support from administration to sockpuppet terror

mods don't even wanna close the old spreadcoin topic so fudders could continue spreading fud: https://archive.today/o6IXi (mod asks the topic op to report about it although he banned)

[Quickseller]

Another way to stop the "altcoin wars" is to simply stop making worthless altcoins. With the exception of NMC they give absolutely nothing of value that Bitcoin cannot/doesn't offer. With the exception of maybe less then 5 other altcoins none of them are in any way unique from other altcoins.

Chances are that anyone spreading "FUD" is actually speaking honestly about your coin.

[Moon Follow Me]

Another way to stop the life is to simply stop making worthless breathes.

fixed for you. no cryptos evolution (making new altcoins) = death of the ecosystem

upd: fyi, there are tons of coins being fud'ded right now.

[Quickseller]

Well considering that with one exception no altcoin has offered anything of value that bitcoin does not offer, to date altcoins have not caused crypto currencies to evolve in any way.

[redsn0w]

Well considering that with one exception no altcoin has offered anything of value that bitcoin does not offer, to date altcoins have not caused crypto currencies to evolve in any way.

Altcoin is a fast/easy way to gain some bitcoin, it is obvious that I will never use litecoin / dogecoin to buy something. Insted I will use bitcoin.

[Quickseller]

Well considering that with one exception no altcoin has offered anything of value that bitcoin does not offer, to date altcoins have not caused crypto currencies to evolve in any way.

Altcoin is a fast/easy way to gain some bitcoin, it is obvious that I will never use litecoin / dogecoin to buy something. Insted I will use bitcoin.

how do you get bitcoin with altcoins? Do you mean by creating new altcoins?

[redsn0w]

Well considering that with one exception no altcoin has offered anything of value that bitcoin does not offer, to date altcoins have not caused crypto currencies to evolve in any way.

Altcoin is a fast/easy way to gain some bitcoin, it is obvious that I will never use litecoin / dogecoin to buy something. Insted I will use bitcoin.

how do you get bitcoin with altcoins? Do you mean by creating new altcoins?

For example, I will participate in an ico/ipo and buy some shares. After I will sell this shares and gain 20-30% more of bitcoin. At the end no one care about altcoin, the final coin that all want is BTC.

[SaltySpitoon]

when it comes to blatant false scam accusations, ignoring the facts, repeating same fud OVER AND OVER AGAIN like this:

https://archive.today/Qcvj5
https://archive.today/B2r2m

open dialog is not enough.

and again, mods don't wanna ban them after several rules violations = support from administration to sockpuppet terror

mods don't even wanna close the old spreadcoin topic so fudders could continue spreading fud: https://archive.today/o6IXi (mod asks the topic op to report about it although he banned)

Those posts aren't against the rules. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean people can't speak their minds. If you reported those posts, I would have checked to see if the person was creating threads/posting to up their post count, if not, it would have been left alone.

Mods won't close the old spreadcoin topic until the OP asks, you can't just ask to have someone else's thread locked, Grue told the OP of that thread exactly what to do
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=946074.msg10362680#msg10362680

I think my advice to you at this point since you aren't getting it, is to make your own forums where you can censor people as you wish, we just aren't really into that. Spam != people you disagree with.

[Quickseller]

Well considering that with one exception no altcoin has offered anything of value that bitcoin does not offer, to date altcoins have not caused crypto currencies to evolve in any way.

Altcoin is a fast/easy way to gain some bitcoin, it is obvious that I will never use litecoin / dogecoin to buy something. Insted I will use bitcoin.

how do you get bitcoin with altcoins? Do you mean by creating new altcoins?

For example, I will participate in an ico/ipo and buy some shares. After I will sell this shares and gain 20-30% more of bitcoin. At the end no one care about altcoin, the final coin that all want is BTC.

This would require you to have Bitcoin already and it assumes that the price of the altcoin increases which is the opposite of what altcoins tend to do, at least over long enough periods of time.

[Moon Follow Me]

when it comes to blatant false scam accusations, ignoring the facts, repeating same fud OVER AND OVER AGAIN like this:

https://archive.today/Qcvj5
https://archive.today/B2r2m

open dialog is not enough.

and again, mods don't wanna ban them after several rules violations = support from administration to sockpuppet terror

mods don't even wanna close the old spreadcoin topic so fudders could continue spreading fud: https://archive.today/o6IXi (mod asks the topic op to report about it although he banned)

Those posts aren't against the rules. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean people can't speak their minds. If you reported those posts, I would have checked to see if the person was creating threads/posting to up their post count, if not, it would have been left alone.

Mods won't close the old spreadcoin topic until the OP asks, you can't just ask to have someone else's thread locked, Grue told the OP of that thread exactly what to do
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=946074.msg10362680#msg10362680

I think my advice to you at this point since you aren't getting it, is to make your own forums where you can censor people as you wish, we just aren't really into that. Spam != people you disagree with.

1) how can he (op - spr topic op) report BEING BANNED? if he wasn't he would close the topic himself.
2) well if rules allow such "free speech" i will create 10 topics saying bitcoin is a scam. aren't you against, are you?

Well considering that with one exception no altcoin has offered anything of value that bitcoin does not offer, to date altcoins have not caused crypto currencies to evolve in any way.

Altcoin is a fast/easy way to gain some bitcoin, it is obvious that I will never use litecoin / dogecoin to buy something. Insted I will use bitcoin.

how do you get bitcoin with altcoins? Do you mean by creating new altcoins?

For example, I will participate in an ico/ipo and buy some shares. After I will sell this shares and gain 20-30% more of bitcoin. At the end no one care about altcoin, the final coin that all want is BTC.

you are wrong about it. my target always has been $. bitcoin died in nov 2013. it has been dropping for more than a year. i don't hold that junk

[SaltySpitoon]

1) how can he (op - spr topic op) report BEING BANNED? if he wasn't he would close the topic himself.
2) well if rules allow such "free speech" i will create 10 topics saying bitcoin is a scam. aren't you against, are you?

get him to report the topic, and put the request in the report.

1) You can log in when you are banned, you can't post or send PMs. By having the OP report the thread, and say "please lock the topic" as the comment, we know that it is really the OP's wishes to lock the topic.

2) If you create 10 topics over a period of time suitable, and with different information ie not just reposting the same thread over and over, given that isn't spam, go for it.

[fonenumba]

you are wrong about it. my target always has been $. bitcoin died in nov 2013. it has been dropping for more than a year. i don't hold that junk

You are a fool. Since nov 2013 the price of almost every altcoin has declined against the price of bitcoin. As a result in terms of $'s most alts have declined more then that of bitcoin. If you say that bitcoin died in nov 2013 then you would also say that scamcoins died at the same time.

FWIW this person is now posting FUD in the bitcoin section that is 100% untrue.IMO the best way to solve the problem of altcoin wars is to get rid of the altcoin section all together, having it is a waste of forum resources