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February 27, 2015, 03:32:33 PM
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this person edited his post after you sent him the loan. Did you happen to get a signed message to confirm ownership of the account? I'll give him a neutral now. Please shoot me a PM when the loan comes due to let me know if he repays you and I'll either remove the neutral or change it to a negative.

No I didn't. My bad. I didn't notice the "change password" thing. We will see if he pays back. I'll tell you. I have some PM from him, asking for the loan and also another saying thank you and telling he we will repay it back.

EDIT : I sent him a PM, asking him for a signed message from an old address or an e-mail from "kalgecin@gmail.com" (his official mail). We will see if he does so..
The reason why I changed my password is because I wanted to give my account as collateral and I didn't want people to know my real password


Thank you for posting your explanation here. But :

1) Did you plan to take a 2nd loan ? Or was it just a misunderstanding situation because you asked me and marco for a loan at the same time?
2) Maybe you can sign a message with an old address here, so everybody will calm down and maybe Marco will remove his negative feedback ?

Yes I was planning to take another loan because your limit is 0.20 and I need 1.0 btc
There's no way for me to sign a message with an old address because I changed my wallet to a more secure one for loans






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February 27, 2015, 03:35:50 PM
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Yes I was planning to take another loan because your limit is 0.20 and I need 1.0 btc
There's no way for me to sign a message with an old address because I changed my wallet to a more secure one for loans

Quickseller feedback : "this user has asked me for a 1.5 btc loan via PM using his account as collateral. When asked for a signed message he confirmed that he was unable to provide one from an address that he actually posted. He did confirm that he has an outstanding loan but only did so after being explicitly asked. I would trade with caution with this person and this is a potentially hacked account. ".

1 ? or 1.7 BTC ? And you also asked Marcotheminer. Sorry to say so but it sounds quite bad. Can you send me an e-mail from kalgecin@gmail.com at least ? That's your e-mail right ?
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February 27, 2015, 03:50:38 PM
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Yes I was planning to take another loan because your limit is 0.20 and I need 1.0 btc
There's no way for me to sign a message with an old address because I changed my wallet to a more secure one for loans

Quickseller feedback : "this user has asked me for a 1.5 btc loan via PM using his account as collateral. When asked for a signed message he confirmed that he was unable to provide one from an address that he actually posted. He did confirm that he has an outstanding loan but only did so after being explicitly asked. I would trade with caution with this person and this is a potentially hacked account. ".

1 ? or 1.7 BTC ? And you also asked Marcotheminer. Sorry to say so but it sounds quite bad. Can you send me an e-mail from kalgecin@gmail.com at least ? That's your e-mail right ?
this guy asked me for 0.8 BTC loan through PM as well. I am cautious to trade with him.
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February 27, 2015, 04:05:29 PM
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this guy asked me for 0.8 BTC loan through PM as well. I am cautious to trade with him.

Looks really bad for me.. We will see...
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February 27, 2015, 04:07:57 PM
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this person edited his post after you sent him the loan. Did you happen to get a signed message to confirm ownership of the account? I'll give him a neutral now. Please shoot me a PM when the loan comes due to let me know if he repays you and I'll either remove the neutral or change it to a negative.

No I didn't. My bad. I didn't notice the "change password" thing. We will see if he pays back. I'll tell you. I have some PM from him, asking for the loan and also another saying thank you and telling he we will repay it back.

EDIT : I sent him a PM, asking him for a signed message from an old address or an e-mail from "kalgecin@gmail.com" (his official mail). We will see if he does so..
The reason why I changed my password is because I wanted to give my account as collateral and I didn't want people to know my real password


Thank you for posting your explanation here. But :

1) Did you plan to take a 2nd loan ? Or was it just a misunderstanding situation because you asked me and marco for a loan at the same time?
2) Maybe you can sign a message with an old address here, so everybody will calm down and maybe Marco will remove his negative feedback ?

Yes I was planning to take another loan because your limit is 0.20 and I need 1.0 btc
There's no way for me to sign a message with an old address because I changed my wallet to a more secure one for loans
your statement about getting a "more secure wallet for loans" is invalid. The reason why people request loans is to spend money somewhere therefore you would not have funds in your wallet once you receive the loan.

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February 27, 2015, 04:43:39 PM
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this person edited his post after you sent him the loan. Did you happen to get a signed message to confirm ownership of the account? I'll give him a neutral now. Please shoot me a PM when the loan comes due to let me know if he repays you and I'll either remove the neutral or change it to a negative.

No I didn't. My bad. I didn't notice the "change password" thing. We will see if he pays back. I'll tell you. I have some PM from him, asking for the loan and also another saying thank you and telling he we will repay it back.

EDIT : I sent him a PM, asking him for a signed message from an old address or an e-mail from "kalgecin@gmail.com" (his official mail). We will see if he does so..
The reason why I changed my password is because I wanted to give my account as collateral and I didn't want people to know my real password


Thank you for posting your explanation here. But :

1) Did you plan to take a 2nd loan ? Or was it just a misunderstanding situation because you asked me and marco for a loan at the same time?
2) Maybe you can sign a message with an old address here, so everybody will calm down and maybe Marco will remove his negative feedback ?

Yes I was planning to take another loan because your limit is 0.20 and I need 1.0 btc
There's no way for me to sign a message with an old address because I changed my wallet to a more secure one for loans
your statement about getting a "more secure wallet for loans" is invalid. The reason why people request loans is to spend money somewhere therefore you would not have funds in your wallet once you receive the loan.
His excuse makes us more suspicious ! Whatever bitcoin client generates an address, it always keep the record of the address! Even you dump the whole wallet every time, at least there are an old address he can use to sign.
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February 27, 2015, 05:05:04 PM
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His excuse makes us more suspicious ! Whatever bitcoin client generates an address, it always keep the record of the address! Even you dump the whole wallet every time, at least there are an old address he can use to sign.

You can delete any address you want. I don't think he will spend time on finding one, we will have to find one.

Edit:

Sign below message with 1N96d9sargUzYGB9KcFmVQz3ZB3C9qGuzB.

Message to sign:

Code:
Today is 27/02/2015, Friday. I, kalgecin is still in control of the account and email address : kalgecin@gmail.com.

Guide on signing : http://blog.anonymousads.com/2014/03/new-feature-sign-in-with-your-bitcoin.html?m=1

Format:

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is 27/02/2015, Friday. I, kalgecin is still in control of the account and email address : kalgecin@gmail.com.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1N96d9sargUzYGB9KcFmVQz3ZB3C9qGuzB
insert signature here
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

-MZ

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February 27, 2015, 10:54:11 PM
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Username : meat
Bitcoin address : 1Ch8fHiCYw3wAeonSWfRSDrYb5WrcfbsEt
Loan Amount : 0.2 pay back 0.22 in 1 week
Why do you need a loan ? : Seals with clubs opened their new site with new software, want to give it a shot
How do you plan to repay your loan ? : Purchase BTC via coinbase which takes like a week to come (don't have a visa/mc cc to attach for instant buy)

Thanks

Sorry denied. 3 loans pending at the moment. I can't accept one more Wink
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February 27, 2015, 10:58:24 PM
Last edit: February 27, 2015, 11:11:40 PM by Glucose
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Just to keep you all updated : He didn't send an e-mail and didn't wrote me anything in PM. Looks more and more like a scam to me. Muhammed Zakir, Quickseller, lihuajkl : I just wanted to thank you all guys for supporting me here. I appreciate. I have been influenced by the "hero" rank and haven't been cautious enough. I will be more careful in the future.


EDIT :  Looks like someone else has been scammed by him today. User "funtotry" sent that feedback to "Kalgecin" : "Loan of 0.8 btc against this user, account in collateral". here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=112313

Looks like I can just regret my 0.2 BTC... Damn...
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February 27, 2015, 11:03:34 PM
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Username : meat
Bitcoin address : 1Ch8fHiCYw3wAeonSWfRSDrYb5WrcfbsEt
Loan Amount : 0.2 pay back 0.22 in 1 week
Why do you need a loan ? : Seals with clubs opened their new site with new software, want to give it a shot
How do you plan to repay your loan ? : Purchase BTC via coinbase which takes like a week to come (don't have a visa/mc cc to attach for instant buy)

Thanks

Sorry denied. 3 loans pending at the moment. I can't accept one more Wink

Ok no worries, I will remove the request.
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February 27, 2015, 11:09:02 PM
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I have 0.8 btc owed by kalgecin
I have ownership of the account now in collateral, whats going on here?

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February 27, 2015, 11:13:56 PM
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I have 0.8 btc owed by kalgecin
I have ownership of the account now in collateral, whats going on here?

Kalgecin account has probably been hacked. He asked a lot of people to loan him today and hasn't been able to produce a signed message or send me an e-mail from his original e-mail. Looks like you will never see your 0.8 BTC again (probably) and I will never see the 0.2 I loaned to him...
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February 27, 2015, 11:14:51 PM
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I have 0.8 btc owed by kalgecin
I have ownership of the account now in collateral, whats going on here?

Kalgecin account has probably been hacked. He asked a lot of people to loan him today and hasn't been able to produce a signed message or to send me an e-mail from his original e-mail. Looks like you will never see your 0.8 BTC again (probably) and I will never see the 0.2 I loaned to him...
Ok but we have the account, which is probably worth about 1 btc, if he does not pay in 7 days then we will liquidate his account and repay you 0.2.

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February 27, 2015, 11:16:50 PM
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I have 0.8 btc owed by kalgecin
I have ownership of the account now in collateral, whats going on here?

Kalgecin account has probably been hacked. He asked a lot of people to loan him today and hasn't been able to produce a signed message or to send me an e-mail from his original e-mail. Looks like you will never see your 0.8 BTC again (probably) and I will never see the 0.2 I loaned to him...
Ok but we have the account, which is probably worth about 1 btc, if he does not pay in 7 days then we will liquidate his account and repay you 0.2.

That would be great. The negative feedback will probably be removed if we organise that. Have to sleep, will write you tomorrow. Keep me updated if you have any news from him.
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February 27, 2015, 11:17:16 PM
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I have 0.8 btc owed by kalgecin
I have ownership of the account now in collateral, whats going on here?

Kalgecin account has probably been hacked. He asked a lot of people to loan him today and hasn't been able to produce a signed message or to send me an e-mail from his original e-mail. Looks like you will never see your 0.8 BTC again (probably) and I will never see the 0.2 I loaned to him...
Ok but we have the account, which is probably worth about 1 btc, if he does not pay in 7 days then we will liquidate his account and repay you 0.2.

That would be great. The negative feedback will probably be removed if we organise that. Have to sleep, will write you tomorrow. Keep me updated if you have any news from him.
Allright sure he made an alt account lets see if he responds there. I also sent him an email.

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February 27, 2015, 11:52:22 PM
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I have 0.8 btc owed by kalgecin
I have ownership of the account now in collateral, whats going on here?

Kalgecin account has probably been hacked. He asked a lot of people to loan him today and hasn't been able to produce a signed message or to send me an e-mail from his original e-mail. Looks like you will never see your 0.8 BTC again (probably) and I will never see the 0.2 I loaned to him...
Ok but we have the account, which is probably worth about 1 btc, if he does not pay in 7 days then we will liquidate his account and repay you 0.2.

That would be great. The negative feedback will probably be removed if we organise that. Have to sleep, will write you tomorrow. Keep me updated if you have any news from him.

@funtotry - Didn't you see Glucose's and Quicksellers' feedback before making the loan?
The only problem is if the account goes for less than 1 BTC.
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February 28, 2015, 12:04:40 AM
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I have 0.8 btc owed by kalgecin
I have ownership of the account now in collateral, whats going on here?

Kalgecin account has probably been hacked. He asked a lot of people to loan him today and hasn't been able to produce a signed message or to send me an e-mail from his original e-mail. Looks like you will never see your 0.8 BTC again (probably) and I will never see the 0.2 I loaned to him...
Ok but we have the account, which is probably worth about 1 btc, if he does not pay in 7 days then we will liquidate his account and repay you 0.2.

That would be great. The negative feedback will probably be removed if we organise that. Have to sleep, will write you tomorrow. Keep me updated if you have any news from him.

@funtotry - Didn't you see Glucose's and Quicksellers' feedback before making the loan?
The only problem is if the account goes for less than 1 BTC.
@funtotry, you should track his post history and trust record before issuing the loan. If the true owner of Kalgecin account com out and claims his account get hacked, you will be in trouble.

Edition: I asked Kalgecin to verify his ownership of the account through PM, he doesn't bother to reply no to me. I know he is business pming different loaners to ask for loan!
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February 28, 2015, 12:35:13 AM
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I have 0.8 btc owed by kalgecin
I have ownership of the account now in collateral, whats going on here?

Kalgecin account has probably been hacked. He asked a lot of people to loan him today and hasn't been able to produce a signed message or to send me an e-mail from his original e-mail. Looks like you will never see your 0.8 BTC again (probably) and I will never see the 0.2 I loaned to him...
Ok but we have the account, which is probably worth about 1 btc, if he does not pay in 7 days then we will liquidate his account and repay you 0.2.

That would be great. The negative feedback will probably be removed if we organise that. Have to sleep, will write you tomorrow. Keep me updated if you have any news from him.

@funtotry - Didn't you see Glucose's and Quicksellers' feedback before making the loan?
The only problem is if the account goes for less than 1 BTC.
If the account goes for less than 1btc the amount will be reduced marginally for both of us. For example, if we get to the point where its worth 0.5 btc (half), thats 0.4 for me (half my 0.Cool and 0.1 for him.
Sadly we have to wait 7 days (or at least a message from him) before starting to sell the account.
IF we get to that point, the members who are leaving the neg feedback will be instructed to remove negative feedback surrounding this loan.

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February 28, 2015, 12:36:16 AM
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I have 0.8 btc owed by kalgecin
I have ownership of the account now in collateral, whats going on here?

Kalgecin account has probably been hacked. He asked a lot of people to loan him today and hasn't been able to produce a signed message or to send me an e-mail from his original e-mail. Looks like you will never see your 0.8 BTC again (probably) and I will never see the 0.2 I loaned to him...
Ok but we have the account, which is probably worth about 1 btc, if he does not pay in 7 days then we will liquidate his account and repay you 0.2.

That would be great. The negative feedback will probably be removed if we organise that. Have to sleep, will write you tomorrow. Keep me updated if you have any news from him.

@funtotry - Didn't you see Glucose's and Quicksellers' feedback before making the loan?
The only problem is if the account goes for less than 1 BTC.
If the account goes for less than 1btc the amount will be reduced marginally for both of us. For example, if we get to the point where its worth 0.5 btc (half), thats 0.4 for me (half my 0.Cool and 0.1 for him.
Sadly we have to wait 7 days (or at least a message from him) before starting to sell the account.
IF we get to that point, the members who are leaving the neg feedback will be instructed to remove negative feedback surrounding this loan.

I don't think the lender has agreed to take any kind of haircut on his loan.

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February 28, 2015, 12:57:42 AM
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I have 0.8 btc owed by kalgecin
I have ownership of the account now in collateral, whats going on here?

Kalgecin account has probably been hacked. He asked a lot of people to loan him today and hasn't been able to produce a signed message or to send me an e-mail from his original e-mail. Looks like you will never see your 0.8 BTC again (probably) and I will never see the 0.2 I loaned to him...
Ok but we have the account, which is probably worth about 1 btc, if he does not pay in 7 days then we will liquidate his account and repay you 0.2.

That would be great. The negative feedback will probably be removed if we organise that. Have to sleep, will write you tomorrow. Keep me updated if you have any news from him.

@funtotry - Didn't you see Glucose's and Quicksellers' feedback before making the loan?
The only problem is if the account goes for less than 1 BTC.
If the account goes for less than 1btc the amount will be reduced marginally for both of us. For example, if we get to the point where its worth 0.5 btc (half), thats 0.4 for me (half my 0.Cool and 0.1 for him.
Sadly we have to wait 7 days (or at least a message from him) before starting to sell the account.
IF we get to that point, the members who are leaving the neg feedback will be instructed to remove negative feedback surrounding this loan.

I don't think the lender has agreed to take any kind of haircut on his loan.
Don't know what that means.
https://blockchain.info/address/1Fo6Uy8JWnV9SnDM5LBnYA8nnCQgbfbyDT
This is the address I loaned to.

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