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February 09, 2015, 09:52:01 AM |
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What will happen? Absolutely nothing. Bitcoin was meant to be decentralized and open this seems to be quite the opposite imo
And it still is, but that doesn't mean groups of people can form their own boys club. Let them have their secret meetings. It doesn't matter. If you can't beat them, join them, if you can't join them, beat them, because they won't be expecting you to beat them, you will have the element of surprise ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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February 09, 2015, 10:36:13 AM |
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just because the venue is a remote island doesnt make much differnce IMO
Actually as someone that had the opportunity to go, but didn't act on it for my own views about some of the people there. I have to agree and disagree. I think they all wanted to go to a nice vacation spot, but I would have enjoyed just listening on skype more than flying to a remote island. Wasn't it going to be streamed live online ?
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February 09, 2015, 10:39:06 AM |
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just because the venue is a remote island doesnt make much differnce IMO
Actually as someone that had the opportunity to go, but didn't act on it for my own views about some of the people there. I have to agree and disagree. I think they all wanted to go to a nice vacation spot, but I would have enjoyed just listening on skype more than flying to a remote island. Wasn't it going to be streamed live online ? Well if it is that would certainly put an end to all the omg it's a secret bilderburger Illuminati meeting. People really like to stoke up a fuss about nothing on here sometimes.
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February 09, 2015, 10:45:12 AM |
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just because the venue is a remote island doesnt make much differnce IMO
Actually as someone that had the opportunity to go, but didn't act on it for my own views about some of the people there. I have to agree and disagree. I think they all wanted to go to a nice vacation spot, but I would have enjoyed just listening on skype more than flying to a remote island. Wasn't it going to be streamed live online ? Well if it is that would certainly put an end to all the omg it's a secret bilderburger Illuminati meeting. People really like to stoke up a fuss about nothing on here sometimes. conspiracy theorists would still claim that there was a streamed meeting for the public and then they had a secret private meeting as well lol if theres really 60 people in attendance im sure some of the content will leak onto some podcast in the next few weeks .......
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February 09, 2015, 11:12:30 AM |
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I think the point of the meeting was twofold:
1. Add more allure to the Bitcoin elite. I've met a few of the attendees. They are very smart individuals who really seem to believe in the promise of bitcoin. They know while we may never know who the true identity/identities of Satoshi Nakamoto, there can at least be a myth surrounding a group of self-proclaimed large bitcoin whales who are influential thoughtleaders on the market direction of bitcoin.
2. If anything, the trip was another way to network, unwind, and formulate a strategy to take bitcoin to the next level with regards to mainstream and capital market adoption.
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February 09, 2015, 02:12:21 PM |
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Just what Bilderberg does after returning from their meeting!
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February 09, 2015, 02:23:42 PM |
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I don't expect anything out of extraordinary to happen or took place during that meeting that is going to impact or change the bitcoin scenario. Probably just a casual face-to-face meetup to share how cool their bitcoin experience was.
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February 09, 2015, 03:28:38 PM |
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"Old-School Cypherpunk" Vinay Gupta seems to think the bitcoin foundation is not such a good thing. see near the end of this article---> https://bitcoinmagazine.com/18000/bitcoin-is-teaching-realism-to-libertarians-an-interview-with-old-school-cypherpunk-vinay-gupta/"And then you have the Bitcoin Foundation, which is emerging naturally from the Bitcoin environment simply because it has established an economically efficient configuration. By paying the technical priesthood of Bitcoin known as the Core developers, the Foundation has created a huge amount of centralized power within a system that didn’t really start with any, which has now effectively turned it into a natural monopoly. And once you have a monopoly, it looks like a state. No wonder that the Bitcoin Foundation looks so frightening." He goes on to suggest that we, any of us, could start another Bitcoin Foundation, or several. There's nothing stopping you. I agree with the 'Old-School Cyberpunk' one main foundation is not a great thing. The central control is terrible and not needed within Satoshis decentralized coin , like you say turning it into a kind of monopoly is not the way to go. This is what can change it! 'WE' as a community can start another BIitcoin foundation or more, hopefully more. I am going to read over the link again it was real late lastnight when i attempted it thanks for the information.
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February 09, 2015, 03:47:52 PM |
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I heard on a secret forum, they are going to pay the foundation to make bitcoins a proof of stake coin.
I AM JUST SAYING...
What do you guys think is going to happen? The protocol is going to change overnight LOL Whatever happens will not effect bitcoin in the least bit. Now if they were banks I be scared.
Thanks for your input, This is why i created the thread i do not know what will happen when they return if anything, i was looking for opinions and i have got what i was looking for. Maybe not overnight but the decision could be made over the next few days by just a few to benefit just a few. We will check back in a few years see if this group has turned out like the bankers. whales will still be whales ....... bitcoin will never be distributed equally or fairly amongst the 7 billion people on earth just like every other wealth or resource on the planet ,top 1% will control most of it
the whales with 500k btc arent going to just disappear ,there will always be the welathy exchange owners,investment capitalists and such people who get a % of every trade so there will inevitably be a huge ever widening gap between the rich and the poor
just the way the world goes around folks .........
Have to agree however saddening it is. Maybe a conspiracy. Lets just hope its nothing to do with the price but the development of the platform.
This is pretty much all we can do is hope it's nothing to major which is to only benefit themselves. Developments sound ideal ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Cheers guys
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February 09, 2015, 04:21:27 PM |
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It has been called a "Brave New World", among other things. Perhaps Bitcoin wealth will be used to fund a "kinder, gentler" United Nations? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Do you think 'Satoshi' made it to the island meetings? This seems to alike to the Bilderburg group as the article states and i do not see any good to come from that, i am not a full on conspiracy theorist but i do not believe meetings behind closed doors to a select few can have any benefit to the wider community. Maybe i am just paranoid but history shows nothing good comes from these style meetings as they are usually set up to take more control in a centralized way. Had the same thought surely if he is still alive he must attend and save his baby, but do we believe he is even alive or cares? last log in 2010 if i remember right. Aha the beautiful UN created after the wars to bring peace to the world in a centralized way, that has worked out wonders. And how do you expect to solve this? Create a crypto currency that sends drones to spy on wealthy people that gather together? There's nothing we can do. There will always be wealthy lucky fucks doing their snobish shit. At least with Bitcoin we know the protocol within itself cannot be altered. You cant say the same with fiat money.
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February 09, 2015, 05:16:18 PM |
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Bitcoin has a horrible early distribution and this private club only makes it worse from an important PR standpoint. Our new overlords discussed their urgent need for human sacrifices. They have agreed on a plan they claim will be "provably fair". Could anybody in here, just tell me, what is so bad about this meeting? What outcome do you fear? What can this "elite"-group really do that will hurt Bitcoin so much?
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February 09, 2015, 06:02:44 PM |
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Our new overlords discussed their urgent need for human sacrifices.
the real ones, not these derps, do exactly that. we're to be rendered down for biodiesel unless we can code or suck cock well
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February 09, 2015, 06:08:39 PM |
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just because the venue is a remote island doesnt make much differnce IMO
Actually as someone that had the opportunity to go, but didn't act on it for my own views about some of the people there. I have to agree and disagree. I think they all wanted to go to a nice vacation spot, but I would have enjoyed just listening on skype more than flying to a remote island. Wasn't it going to be streamed live online ? BTC media will be taping things but I don't think there will be a live stream.
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February 09, 2015, 06:13:45 PM |
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I heard on a secret forum, they are going to pay the foundation to make bitcoins a proof of stake coin.
I AM JUST SAYING...
What do you guys think is going to happen? The protocol is going to change overnight LOL Whatever happens will not effect bitcoin in the least bit. Now if they were banks I be scared.
You mean the BitMessage secret forum or the one on that .bit web site? All this conspiracy nonsense is just that, nonsense. It is just some people who have similar interests and believe in the promise of the bitcoin technology. People meeting, discussing business and improving their offerings is a good thing. Nothing changes in the protocol, the people I saw who were attending on the list wouldn't abandon bitcoin and sell their coins (no matter how few or many they control). At worst someone may get a good idea about a new product. And, btw, this so called "elite" moniker is just a ridiculous meme. They just wanted to make it sound exclusive to entice people to come. Since it is difficult to know who is behind what address/group of addresses, inviting so-called "whales" to meet on a nice island is a crapshoot.
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February 09, 2015, 06:15:39 PM |
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I heard on a secret forum, they are going to pay the foundation to make bitcoins a proof of stake coin.
I AM JUST SAYING...
What do you guys think is going to happen? The protocol is going to change overnight LOL Whatever happens will not effect bitcoin in the least bit. Now if they were banks I be scared.
You mean the BitMessage secret forum or the one on that .bit web site? All this conspiracy nonsense is just that, nonsense. It is just some people who have similar interests and believe in the promise of the bitcoin technology. People meeting, discussing business and improving their offerings is a good thing. Nothing changes in the protocol, the people I saw who were attending on the list wouldn't abandon bitcoin and sell their coins (no matter how few or many they control). At worst someone may get a good idea about a new product. And, btw, this so called "elite" moniker is just a ridiculous meme. They just wanted to make it sound exclusive to entice people to come. Since it is difficult to know who is behind what address/group of addresses, inviting so-called "whales" to meet on a nice island is a crapshoot. I was just being funny with the secret forum LMAO and I agree the elite moniker is dumb.
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February 09, 2015, 06:17:46 PM |
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I heard on a secret forum, they are going to pay the foundation to make bitcoins a proof of stake coin.
I AM JUST SAYING...
What do you guys think is going to happen? The protocol is going to change overnight LOL Whatever happens will not effect bitcoin in the least bit. Now if they were banks I be scared.
You mean the BitMessage secret forum or the one on that .bit web site? All this conspiracy nonsense is just that, nonsense. It is just some people who have similar interests and believe in the promise of the bitcoin technology. People meeting, discussing business and improving their offerings is a good thing. Nothing changes in the protocol, the people I saw who were attending on the list wouldn't abandon bitcoin and sell their coins (no matter how few or many they control). At worst someone may get a good idea about a new product. And, btw, this so called "elite" moniker is just a ridiculous meme. They just wanted to make it sound exclusive to entice people to come. Since it is difficult to know who is behind what address/group of addresses, inviting so-called "whales" to meet on a nice island is a crapshoot. I was just being funny with the secret forum LMAO and I agree the elite moniker is dumb. Well they are elite tho. They are the top of the richest addresses and have most of the Bitcoins... thats what i call elite.
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February 09, 2015, 06:34:59 PM |
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I was just being funny with the secret forum LMAO and I agree the elite moniker is dumb.
I know - I was continuing it. ;-)
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February 09, 2015, 07:52:37 PM |
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I don't think it will all be about getting more money for their parties. They would definitely be developing good in order to make that happen.
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February 17, 2015, 08:30:48 AM |
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Any news on this one?
What was discussed there and what was the outcome?
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February 17, 2015, 09:38:37 AM |
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Don't expect anything. They wanted a holiday on an island and that was all. If there was indeed any need to take a decision it could have easily been arranged over video conference.
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