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March 24, 2015, 08:02:53 AM |
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@ networthsigns a bonus was placed on shadowfax,, it was asked in chat what happens if shadow fax wins,, admin said it would roll over,
You clearly knew the rules as dev had obviously stated in chat according to your post. It would ROLL over. You lost get over it, bonus was rolled over as it should have. And your experience with real horse racing means nothing here, this is a virtual race with Bitcoin created by the op. |
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asuryan180
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March 24, 2015, 09:45:05 AM |
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@ networthsigns a bonus was placed on shadowfax,, it was asked in chat what happens if shadow fax wins,, admin said it would roll over,
You clearly knew the rules as dev had obviously stated in chat according to your post. It would ROLL over. You lost get over it, bonus was rolled over as it should have. And your experience with real horse racing means nothing here, this is a virtual race with Bitcoin created by the op. Don't be so off the ball of course experience with any kind of betting means something on a betting site. Yes from what i read he knew that the bonus would roll over and he advised not to do that before they done that and they done that so that is probably what is annoying him. I don't think he really cares he lost when the bonus was contributed by him anyway  Where is the Op when all this is going on? |
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Sakarias-Corporation (OP)
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March 24, 2015, 10:00:44 AM |
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Sorry Internet went down.
The bonus was distributed to the members who did bet on Shadowfax, a lot of people did revive it. The ones who felt they didn't revive it bet a ton on coins on all the other horses that didn't win.
Example if you bet 1 BTC on the Jackpot horse and then a total of 10BTC on the rest. And someone bets a total of 90% of all the bets placed on shadowfax (on shadowfax) and then at the end some random guy bets half of what the second guy bets (the one who had the 90%) then the total profit for the guy who bet on shadowfax and the rest of the horses will be 0 if not even negative since he only own maybe 1% of the total shares in that horse and still got tons of coins on the other horses.
So the two other guys will then take a total of 95% of the TOTAL profit, wether it be the Jackpot and the other bets placed. So the guy who bet a lot in the other horses will lose his bets to the other two guys and his profit will not cover up the loses from the other bets he made.
It looks like the only one who lost on the jackpot was seven out due to mass spread on bets. If it's so important in happy to pay what you lost from my own wallet. I can NOT just take coins from the account since the jackpot is gone and have been picked up by other players.
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asuryan180
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March 24, 2015, 10:30:15 AM |
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Sorry Internet went down.
The bonus was distributed to the members who did bet on Shadowfax, a lot of people did revive it. The ones who felt they didn't revive it bet a ton on coins on all the other horses that didn't win.
Example if you bet 1 BTC on the Jackpot horse and then a total of 10BTC on the rest. And someone bets a total of 90% of all the bets placed on shadowfax (on shadowfax) and then at the end some random guy bets half of what the second guy bets (the one who had the 90%) then the total profit for the guy who bet on shadowfax and the rest of the horses will be 0 if not even negative since he only own maybe 1% of the total shares in that horse and still got tons of coins on the other horses.
So the two other guys will then take a total of 95% of the TOTAL profit, wether it be the Jackpot and the other bets placed. So the guy who bet a lot in the other horses will lose his bets to the other two guys and his profit will not cover up the loses from the other bets he made.
It looks like the only one who lost on the jackpot was seven out due to mass spread on bets. If it's so important in happy to pay what you lost from my own wallet. I can NOT just take coins from the account since the jackpot is gone and have been picked up by other players.
Great you have shown up  Thanks for explaining but that was quite obvious to begin with i am not sure the guy was talking about anything you spoke about but he was actually saying you should not have rolled the bonus over and he said this before the race Is it true that he put a % of the bonus payment? In the near future are you going to be able to prove this site is provably fair because at the moment i can't seem to find anything that shows me this? |
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March 24, 2015, 10:43:22 AM |
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Sorry Internet went down.
The bonus was distributed to the members who did bet on Shadowfax, a lot of people did revive it. The ones who felt they didn't revive it bet a ton on coins on all the other horses that didn't win.
Example if you bet 1 BTC on the Jackpot horse and then a total of 10BTC on the rest. And someone bets a total of 90% of all the bets placed on shadowfax (on shadowfax) and then at the end some random guy bets half of what the second guy bets (the one who had the 90%) then the total profit for the guy who bet on shadowfax and the rest of the horses will be 0 if not even negative since he only own maybe 1% of the total shares in that horse and still got tons of coins on the other horses.
So the two other guys will then take a total of 95% of the TOTAL profit, wether it be the Jackpot and the other bets placed. So the guy who bet a lot in the other horses will lose his bets to the other two guys and his profit will not cover up the loses from the other bets he made.
It looks like the only one who lost on the jackpot was seven out due to mass spread on bets. If it's so important in happy to pay what you lost from my own wallet. I can NOT just take coins from the account since the jackpot is gone and have been picked up by other players.
Great you have shown up Thanks for explaining but that was quite obvious to begin with i am not sure the guy was talking about anything you spoke about but he was actually saying you should not have rolled the bonus over and he said this before the race Is it true that he put a % of the bonus payment? In the near future are you going to be able to prove this site is provably fair because at the moment i can't seem to find anything that shows me this? No he did not contribute to this Jackpot but he did contribute to some other bonuses a week before. I tried to explain in PM but he went from happy to furious in one second without listening to my explanation and trying to blackmail me. But I'm happy to repay what he lost to show good faith I also thought the jackpot would roll over but it didn't! I managed to fix the problem I had with the bonus code within the last 10 minutes of the race. So the only fault from me was that I did not announce in time that the bonus would not roll over as I thought it would but rather pay out and be distributed as it should have. I am planing on a system to make it probably fair and allow all players to see what the other players beted, to make it more transparent I'm working constantly on improving the website and I'm also looking for a Dev to help me sinc there's lots of work to be done |
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Sevenout
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March 24, 2015, 11:20:50 AM |
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@jin. Lol cry I think not.
When a bonus or jackpot is placed it has to be paid. Not rolled over if the horse wins that has the jackpot.
It was said in chat which is wrong. And op throwing coinage around is to apease the people.
Go to any casino sports book or where ever, have a jackpot placed then because the jackpot horse, bonus or what ever won. It was moved to the next race.
Show me that somewhere @jin.
It's not fair or ethical. And for those who say the won on the first shadow fax win. Did win some off the other horses that lost. But not the full amount off the jackpot.
So please understand how things should be paid out weather its live or a computer that generared the race, the amount of bet vs players vs % of bonus payout is the same.
Perhaps you do not know that.
But all I stated was people where short changed and it was not fair.
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Sevenout
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March 24, 2015, 11:22:52 AM |
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OP. Blackmail. Really. Me u r talking about. It's not blackmail. It's your site pay people what they are due. Screen shots are not blackmail. Once again stop saying crap that is not true.
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March 24, 2015, 11:25:27 AM |
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OP. Blackmail. Really. Me u r talking about. It's not blackmail. It's your site pay people what they are due. Screen shots are not blackmail. Once again stop saying crap that is not true.
Look youre the only one who lost so please send me the amount on pm and I shall send it to you, I'm to do it. |
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Sevenout
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March 24, 2015, 11:31:05 AM |
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Really I am the only one who lost. Everyone who bet on the winning horse lost. But they do not realize it. If u want to continue this in the public fourm lets do it. But it will not fair well for you or your site when the truth is shown. So your choice OP. Public fourm or PM. Your choice.
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March 24, 2015, 11:42:23 AM |
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Really I am the only one who lost. Everyone who bet on the winning horse lost. But they do not realize it. If u want to continue this in the public fourm lets do it. But it will not fair well for you or your site when the truth is shown. So your choice OP. Public fourm or PM. Your choice.
I'll PM you when I get home so we can settle this out |
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asuryan180
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March 24, 2015, 11:49:56 AM |
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Really I am the only one who lost. Everyone who bet on the winning horse lost. But they do not realize it. If u want to continue this in the public fourm lets do it. But it will not fair well for you or your site when the truth is shown. So your choice OP. Public fourm or PM. Your choice.
I'll PM you when I get home so we can settle this out This makes it look like you have something to hid, the truth is always better in the open and never behind closed doors imho of course. Sorry Internet went down.
The bonus was distributed to the members who did bet on Shadowfax, a lot of people did revive it. The ones who felt they didn't revive it bet a ton on coins on all the other horses that didn't win.
Example if you bet 1 BTC on the Jackpot horse and then a total of 10BTC on the rest. And someone bets a total of 90% of all the bets placed on shadowfax (on shadowfax) and then at the end some random guy bets half of what the second guy bets (the one who had the 90%) then the total profit for the guy who bet on shadowfax and the rest of the horses will be 0 if not even negative since he only own maybe 1% of the total shares in that horse and still got tons of coins on the other horses.
So the two other guys will then take a total of 95% of the TOTAL profit, wether it be the Jackpot and the other bets placed. So the guy who bet a lot in the other horses will lose his bets to the other two guys and his profit will not cover up the loses from the other bets he made.
It looks like the only one who lost on the jackpot was seven out due to mass spread on bets. If it's so important in happy to pay what you lost from my own wallet. I can NOT just take coins from the account since the jackpot is gone and have been picked up by other players.
Great you have shown up Thanks for explaining but that was quite obvious to begin with i am not sure the guy was talking about anything you spoke about but he was actually saying you should not have rolled the bonus over and he said this before the race Is it true that he put a % of the bonus payment? In the near future are you going to be able to prove this site is provably fair because at the moment i can't seem to find anything that shows me this? No he did not contribute to this Jackpot but he did contribute to some other bonuses a week before. I tried to explain in PM but he went from happy to furious in one second without listening to my explanation and trying to blackmail me. But I'm happy to repay what he lost to show good faith I also thought the jackpot would roll over but it didn't! I managed to fix the problem I had with the bonus code within the last 10 minutes of the race. So the only fault from me was that I did not announce in time that the bonus would not roll over as I thought it would but rather pay out and be distributed as it should have. I am planing on a system to make it probably fair and allow all players to see what the other players beted, to make it more transparent I'm working constantly on improving the website and I'm also looking for a Dev to help me sinc there's lots of work to be done Right thanks for clearing that up when i read what he wrote sounded like it was for this bonus just gone, you have now gone back to pm so what is to stop him doing the same again? That is a show of good faith but what about the others who bet on the winning horse? Ok that is good the game will attract more when and if you can prove it is provably fair this is what most people are looking for and rightfully so, you should start a thread in the project development or services not quite sure but no doubt you will be able to find someone  Good luck.. |
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March 24, 2015, 11:51:52 AM |
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I have decide to split up another .1 BTC civil among everyone who placed a bet on the winning horse, so they will go double up. That should clear everything since this is the second bonus some will get.
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Sevenout
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March 24, 2015, 12:14:42 PM |
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After speaking with OP, and going over things.
I can now say that it was not done to cheat anyone or scam or what ever word people want to use.
It was a error that occurred in the system itself.
OP now realizes that this type of thing will happen and has changed the way the jackpot is run.
As I stated several times I never thought it was malicious at all,
And OP relized it after speaking with him and he fixed it right away.
And for those who said I was mad because I lost get a grip on things.
It was you all that were effected without even knowing it.
But OP has fixed it and I do not see any future problems with his site and how things are run.
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Jin xiou
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March 24, 2015, 02:48:45 PM |
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i will place a ~0.1 BTC bet on one of the horses 07:27 if anyone wanna try to win the btc from me feel free  or maybe i will win everything hehe |
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Euthanasiaa
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March 24, 2015, 02:49:20 PM |
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i will place a ~0.1 BTC bet on one of the horses 07:27 if anyone wanna try to win the btc from me feel free or maybe i will win everything hehe i'll take you up on that ! |
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Stellaartois
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March 24, 2015, 03:05:35 PM |
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I hear another bonus :-) woooo very genorous of you Jin
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Sakarias-Corporation (OP)
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March 24, 2015, 03:29:29 PM |
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Good New's i've placed a order on some new Equipment so we can soon set up more races and shorter time frames |
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Sakarias-Corporation (OP)
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March 24, 2015, 04:40:22 PM |
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Poll up! please vote for what timeframe you want to see |
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Sakarias-Corporation (OP)
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March 24, 2015, 04:41:29 PM |
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haha good one would be fun actually Poll up! please vote for what timeframe you want to see |
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