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Author Topic: Is Bitmain retooling its labs for a die shrink to anything below 28nm??  (Read 2538 times)
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February 12, 2015, 07:35:19 PM
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Without a retool to anything below 28nm i can't see them getting anymore punch from there current 28nm chipset... Its gone thru 3 versions now & its time to ramp it up a little or is it time for the average punter to move over to Spondoolies-Tech???

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February 17, 2015, 03:41:55 PM
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Without a retool to anything below 28nm i can't see them getting anymore punch from there current 28nm chipset... Its gone thru 3 versions now & its time to ramp it up a little or is it time for the average punter to move over to Spondoolies-Tech???

Bitmain doesn't manufacturer their own chips. They use a fab like everyone else.
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February 17, 2015, 08:19:50 PM
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While Bitmain doesn't fab their own chips, there's usually a significant cost to step from 28nm to another process geometry. New rules, design tools, and such make it resemble a "retooling" even if it's more like engineering design and software changes. Miner manufacturers have to decide if they want to make that "investment".
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February 17, 2015, 10:14:31 PM
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my guess is an s-6 using .38 watts at the wall vs the s-5 using .51 watt at the wall


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February 18, 2015, 02:30:19 AM
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Doesn't it seem "natural" that if there is an S6 it will be using S5 chips? That's pretty much their style for the previous miners they produced e.g. S1/S2, S3/S4).
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February 18, 2015, 08:36:49 AM
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Doesn't it seem "natural" that if there is an S6 it will be using S5 chips? That's pretty much their style for the previous miners they produced e.g. S1/S2, S3/S4).


I'm glad someone else can see that pattern as well. I'd speculate we'll see that S6 in the next quarter
followed by the new chip design--S7--towards the end of the year.

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February 18, 2015, 08:18:03 PM
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so the story goes on, you chase ROI until the next miner dashes all hopes
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February 23, 2015, 07:26:20 PM
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Doesn't it seem "natural" that if there is an S6 it will be using S5 chips? That's pretty much their style for the previous miners they produced e.g. S1/S2, S3/S4).

[Speculation] Almost certainly the S6 will use S5 chips, its not time for a gen shift yet.

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February 28, 2015, 08:09:12 PM
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Doesn't it seem "natural" that if there is an S6 it will be using S5 chips? That's pretty much their style for the previous miners they produced e.g. S1/S2, S3/S4).

[Speculation] Almost certainly the S6 will use S5 chips, its not time for a gen shift yet.

Good news for me then (and for most, I'd think) ... then people have to start selling/underclocking their gear, as the new stuff tends to make the old stuff obsolete.

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