Quickseller vs Legendster

[Quickseller]

*Also, If I dont see any community interest in funding my loan that would also point out that my analysis of the puddle network is inaccurate and there is no way that it can sustain itself AND pay off the loan with which it was bought for.

Correct. Right now a total of less then .2 of your loan has been funded including multiple investments from two people (strange)

Welcome to BTCJAM.

There are a lot of scams on btcjam. The way their platform is setup makes it very easy for scammers to operate.

To date I have not seen one person that I trust make any kind of analysis to suggest the faucets in question are worth their asking price. With the exception of yourself, I have not seen anyone suggest the faucets are worth anything period.

[legendster]

*Also, If I dont see any community interest in funding my loan that would also point out that my analysis of the puddle network is inaccurate and there is no way that it can sustain itself AND pay off the loan with which it was bought for.

Correct. Right now a total of less then .2 of your loan has been funded including multiple investments from two people (strange)

Welcome to BTCJAM.

There are a lot of scams on btcjam. The way their platform is setup makes it very easy for scammers to operate.

To date I have not seen one person that I trust make any kind of analysis to suggest the faucets in question are worth their asking price. With the exception of yourself, I have not seen anyone suggest the faucets are worth anything period.

How many websites do you operate ?
Are you setup on adsense ?
Have any of your sites had a decent traffic to generate a revenue from adverts ?
If not then your opinion in this matter is worthless, if you DO, then tell me about it instead of ruining my reputation which I have worked hard to maintain.
Since you chose the later path, your reputation is now at stake.

[Blazr]

*Also, If I dont see any community interest in funding my loan that would also point out that my analysis of the puddle network is inaccurate and there is no way that it can sustain itself AND pay off the loan with which it was bought for.

Correct. Right now a total of less then .2 of your loan has been funded including multiple investments from two people (strange)

Welcome to BTCJAM.

There are a lot of scams on btcjam. The way their platform is setup makes it very easy for scammers to operate.

To date I have not seen one person that I trust make any kind of analysis to suggest the faucets in question are worth their asking price. With the exception of yourself, I have not seen anyone suggest the faucets are worth anything period.

How many websites do you operate ?
Are you setup on adsense ?
Have any of your sites had a decent traffic to generate a revenue from adverts ?
If not then your opinion in this matter is worthless, if you DO, then tell me about it instead of ruining my reputation which I have worked hard to maintain.
Since you chose the later path, your reputation is now at stake.

FYI you can't put AdSense on a faucet website, it is against the AdSense TOS. I know there are some faucets that do this, but once they reach the payment threshold their account will be suspended.

[legendster]

*Also, If I dont see any community interest in funding my loan that would also point out that my analysis of the puddle network is inaccurate and there is no way that it can sustain itself AND pay off the loan with which it was bought for.

Correct. Right now a total of less then .2 of your loan has been funded including multiple investments from two people (strange)

Welcome to BTCJAM.

There are a lot of scams on btcjam. The way their platform is setup makes it very easy for scammers to operate.

To date I have not seen one person that I trust make any kind of analysis to suggest the faucets in question are worth their asking price. With the exception of yourself, I have not seen anyone suggest the faucets are worth anything period.

How many websites do you operate ?
Are you setup on adsense ?
Have any of your sites had a decent traffic to generate a revenue from adverts ?
If not then your opinion in this matter is worthless, if you DO, then tell me about it instead of ruining my reputation which I have worked hard to maintain.
Since you chose the later path, your reputation is now at stake.

FYI you can't put AdSense on a faucet website, it is against the AdSense TOS. I know there are some faucets that do this, but once they reach the payment threshold their account will be suspended.

There are other advertisers who support faucets, like I have personally used adbrite in some of my old blogs in 2007. Though they are now defunct and I am not into internet marketing anymore. However the point still remains, that faucets are getting revenues through adverts whether it be from adsense or any other ad exchange.

What I could personally verify was that the puddle network was very popular and had a LOT of traffic in december.

But now that you say that adsense suspends faucet accounts, I will have to reconsider my approach as it very well could be the reason why he is trying to sell off these sites.

PS: The guy has been trying to talk me into purchasing these sites without the loan and has went to the extent of agreeing to a payment plan and reducing the asking price.

[legendster]

Since this issue is public, I would also like to ask Quicky to explain the reason for his current negative trust on my profile - which has shifted from - me not accepting escrow (false) to me asking a loan on BTCJAM with a flawless TRUSTED profile.

Does he genuinely expect me to provide all the multiple investors on Jam with a form of collateral for their investment ?
Is everyone on jam asking for a loan providing a collateral ?
If not then on what basis is he ruining my trust score ?

[picolo]

You are asking for a large sum of money WITHOUT collateral which is one of the lending section rules. You should be getting negged based on that.

Don't see how Quickseller overreacted.

You could consider his reputation is the collateral. A newbie asking for a loan without a collateral is really asking without a collateral because his reputation is negligeable.
In the case of OP it's not.

[legendster]

You are asking for a large sum of money WITHOUT collateral which is one of the lending section rules. You should be getting negged based on that.

Don't see how Quickseller overreacted.

You could consider his reputation is the collateral. A newbie asking for a loan without a collateral is really asking without a collateral because his reputation is negligeable.
In the case of OP it's not.

+1

[cazkooo]

Since this issue is public, I would also like to ask Quicky to explain the reason for his current negative trust on my profile - which has shifted from - me not accepting escrow (false) to me asking a loan on BTCJAM with a flawless TRUSTED profile.

Does he genuinely expect me to provide all the multiple investors on Jam with a form of collateral for their investment ?
Is everyone on jam asking for a loan providing a collateral ?
If not then on what basis is he ruining my trust score ?

to sort this things out, id suggest you delete your thread which contains the link to your JAM listing, if you didnt posted that link here, im sure this issue wont happen, it will stay in JAM wether the community there will trust you or not

[legendster]

Since this issue is public, I would also like to ask Quicky to explain the reason for his current negative trust on my profile - which has shifted from - me not accepting escrow (false) to me asking a loan on BTCJAM with a flawless TRUSTED profile.

Does he genuinely expect me to provide all the multiple investors on Jam with a form of collateral for their investment ?
Is everyone on jam asking for a loan providing a collateral ?
If not then on what basis is he ruining my trust score ?

to sort this things out, id suggest you delete your thread which contains the link to your JAM listing, if you didnt posted that link here, im sure this issue wont happen, it will stay in JAM wether the community there will trust you or not

Wouldnt that be acting like a two faced hypocrite? What difference would there be between a potential scammer and me ?

(lets face it everyone is a potential scammer unless proven otherwise)
The only reason I have been able to do business here since the day I joined this forum was because of the transparency with which I conduct business.

And yes I could have simply avoided this by not posting about it here but the fact that I DID should account for my character. Being an old member here I really didnt that I'd have to testify my character time & time again especially to guys like Quickseller.

[Muhammed Zakir]

*Also, If I dont see any community interest in funding my loan that would also point out that my analysis of the puddle network is inaccurate and there is no way that it can sustain itself AND pay off the loan with which it was bought for.

Correct. Right now a total of less then .2 of your loan has been funded including multiple investments from two people (strange)

Welcome to BTCJAM.

There are a lot of scams on btcjam. The way their platform is setup makes it very easy for scammers to operate.

To date I have not seen one person that I trust make any kind of analysis to suggest the faucets in question are worth their asking price. With the exception of yourself, I have not seen anyone suggest the faucets are worth anything period.

How many websites do you operate ?
Are you setup on adsense ?
Have any of your sites had a decent traffic to generate a revenue from adverts ?
If not then your opinion in this matter is worthless, if you DO, then tell me about it instead of ruining my reputation which I have worked hard to maintain.
Since you chose the later path, your reputation is now at stake.

FYI you can't put AdSense on a faucet website, it is against the AdSense TOS. I know there are some faucets that do this, but once they reach the payment threshold their account will be suspended.

Faucets which are still being payed have some sort of game-like feature. Eg:- freebitco.in(& sister faucet).

   -MZ

[SimplisticStu]

[legendster]

*Also, If I dont see any community interest in funding my loan that would also point out that my analysis of the puddle network is inaccurate and there is no way that it can sustain itself AND pay off the loan with which it was bought for.

Correct. Right now a total of less then .2 of your loan has been funded including multiple investments from two people (strange)

Welcome to BTCJAM.

There are a lot of scams on btcjam. The way their platform is setup makes it very easy for scammers to operate.

To date I have not seen one person that I trust make any kind of analysis to suggest the faucets in question are worth their asking price. With the exception of yourself, I have not seen anyone suggest the faucets are worth anything period.

How many websites do you operate ?
Are you setup on adsense ?
Have any of your sites had a decent traffic to generate a revenue from adverts ?
If not then your opinion in this matter is worthless, if you DO, then tell me about it instead of ruining my reputation which I have worked hard to maintain.
Since you chose the later path, your reputation is now at stake.

FYI you can't put AdSense on a faucet website, it is against the AdSense TOS. I know there are some faucets that do this, but once they reach the payment threshold their account will be suspended.

Faucets which are still being payed have some sort of game-like feature. Eg:- freebitco.in(& sister faucet).

   -MZ

Yeah alienfaucets as well, and since the name of the site was Bitcoin puddle and since I am a pro animator I had a lot of plans with it.. so I dont really know where we can go from here but lets see how everything else turns out.

[Quickseller]

You are asking for a large sum of money WITHOUT collateral which is one of the lending section rules. You should be getting negged based on that.

Don't see how Quickseller overreacted.

You could consider his reputation is the collateral. A newbie asking for a loan without a collateral is really asking without a collateral because his reputation is negligeable.
In the case of OP it's not.

He has negative trust?

[Lethn]

LOL! Yup, pretty much what this forum is devolving into right now

[legendster]

LOL! Yup, pretty much what this forum is devolving into right now

I seriously have no time to have a cat fight with Johnie or Quicky I just wanted to bring this matter in public so this guy's idiocy is evident to all.

[Grand_Voyageur]

[bitcoinpuddle]

*Also, If I dont see any community interest in funding my loan that would also point out that my analysis of the puddle network is inaccurate and there is no way that it can sustain itself AND pay off the loan with which it was bought for.

Correct. Right now a total of less then .2 of your loan has been funded including multiple investments from two people (strange)

Welcome to BTCJAM.

There are a lot of scams on btcjam. The way their platform is setup makes it very easy for scammers to operate.

To date I have not seen one person that I trust make any kind of analysis to suggest the faucets in question are worth their asking price. With the exception of yourself, I have not seen anyone suggest the faucets are worth anything period.

How many websites do you operate ?
Are you setup on adsense ?
Have any of your sites had a decent traffic to generate a revenue from adverts ?
If not then your opinion in this matter is worthless, if you DO, then tell me about it instead of ruining my reputation which I have worked hard to maintain.
Since you chose the later path, your reputation is now at stake.

FYI you can't put AdSense on a faucet website, it is against the AdSense TOS. I know there are some faucets that do this, but once they reach the payment threshold their account will be suspended.

There are other advertisers who support faucets, like I have personally used adbrite in some of my old blogs in 2007. Though they are now defunct and I am not into internet marketing anymore. However the point still remains, that faucets are getting revenues through adverts whether it be from adsense or any other ad exchange.

What I could personally verify was that the puddle network was very popular and had a LOT of traffic in december.

But now that you say that adsense suspends faucet accounts, I will have to reconsider my approach as it very well could be the reason why he is trying to sell off these sites.

PS: The guy has been trying to talk me into purchasing these sites without the loan and has went to the extent of agreeing to a payment plan and reducing the asking price.

1. No I am  not selling it for adsense issues.
2. I was agreeing to do a payment plan with your because your loan is not going to fund.
3. yes I agreed to reducing the price as you asked.

I was not trying to talk to into purchasing with out the loan its just you can see on your Loan listing it looks like it wont fund.
So i wanted to see if you wanted to do a payment plan.  


To all the people that say faucets dont make money is because you dont own a faucet or even had the chance to make a decent profit making  faucet.

also just to clarify adsense does not close your account, yes if it reaches to a very large amount they will research the clicks, they do this to every website that starts to get massive amount of traffic not just faucets.

[Quickseller]

*Also, If I dont see any community interest in funding my loan that would also point out that my analysis of the puddle network is inaccurate and there is no way that it can sustain itself AND pay off the loan with which it was bought for.

Correct. Right now a total of less then .2 of your loan has been funded including multiple investments from two people (strange)

Welcome to BTCJAM.

There are a lot of scams on btcjam. The way their platform is setup makes it very easy for scammers to operate.

To date I have not seen one person that I trust make any kind of analysis to suggest the faucets in question are worth their asking price. With the exception of yourself, I have not seen anyone suggest the faucets are worth anything period.

How many websites do you operate ?
Are you setup on adsense ?
Have any of your sites had a decent traffic to generate a revenue from adverts ?
If not then your opinion in this matter is worthless, if you DO, then tell me about it instead of ruining my reputation which I have worked hard to maintain.
Since you chose the later path, your reputation is now at stake.

FYI you can't put AdSense on a faucet website, it is against the AdSense TOS. I know there are some faucets that do this, but once they reach the payment threshold their account will be suspended.

There are other advertisers who support faucets, like I have personally used adbrite in some of my old blogs in 2007. Though they are now defunct and I am not into internet marketing anymore. However the point still remains, that faucets are getting revenues through adverts whether it be from adsense or any other ad exchange.

What I could personally verify was that the puddle network was very popular and had a LOT of traffic in december.

But now that you say that adsense suspends faucet accounts, I will have to reconsider my approach as it very well could be the reason why he is trying to sell off these sites.

PS: The guy has been trying to talk me into purchasing these sites without the loan and has went to the extent of agreeing to a payment plan and reducing the asking price.

1. No I am  not selling it for adsense issues.
2. I was agreeing to do a payment plan with your because your loan is not going to fund.
3. yes I agreed to reducing the price as you asked.

I was not trying to talk to into purchasing with out the loan its just you can see on your Loan listing it looks like it wont fund.
So i wanted to see if you wanted to do a payment plan. 


To all the people that say faucets dont make money is because you dont own a faucet or even had the chance to make a decent profit making  faucet.

also just to clarify adsense does not close your account, yes if it reaches to a very large amount they will research the clicks, they do this to every website that starts to get massive amount of traffic not just faucets.

Proof of receipt of revenue? Proof of expenses of running your faucet? Proof your traffic is not violating the TOS of your sponsors?

[Wardrick]

I haven't seen people in the past be discouraged from scamming large amounts because there identities were public. From all the scams that have gone on having your identity public really doesn't mean anything anymore. In fact, most of the large scams that have been pulled off were from people who've already had their identities known.

[bitcoinpuddle]

*Also, If I dont see any community interest in funding my loan that would also point out that my analysis of the puddle network is inaccurate and there is no way that it can sustain itself AND pay off the loan with which it was bought for.

Correct. Right now a total of less then .2 of your loan has been funded including multiple investments from two people (strange)

Welcome to BTCJAM.

There are a lot of scams on btcjam. The way their platform is setup makes it very easy for scammers to operate.

To date I have not seen one person that I trust make any kind of analysis to suggest the faucets in question are worth their asking price. With the exception of yourself, I have not seen anyone suggest the faucets are worth anything period.

How many websites do you operate ?
Are you setup on adsense ?
Have any of your sites had a decent traffic to generate a revenue from adverts ?
If not then your opinion in this matter is worthless, if you DO, then tell me about it instead of ruining my reputation which I have worked hard to maintain.
Since you chose the later path, your reputation is now at stake.

FYI you can't put AdSense on a faucet website, it is against the AdSense TOS. I know there are some faucets that do this, but once they reach the payment threshold their account will be suspended.

There are other advertisers who support faucets, like I have personally used adbrite in some of my old blogs in 2007. Though they are now defunct and I am not into internet marketing anymore. However the point still remains, that faucets are getting revenues through adverts whether it be from adsense or any other ad exchange.

What I could personally verify was that the puddle network was very popular and had a LOT of traffic in december.

But now that you say that adsense suspends faucet accounts, I will have to reconsider my approach as it very well could be the reason why he is trying to sell off these sites.

PS: The guy has been trying to talk me into purchasing these sites without the loan and has went to the extent of agreeing to a payment plan and reducing the asking price.

1. No I am  not selling it for adsense issues.
2. I was agreeing to do a payment plan with your because your loan is not going to fund.
3. yes I agreed to reducing the price as you asked.

I was not trying to talk to into purchasing with out the loan its just you can see on your Loan listing it looks like it wont fund.
So i wanted to see if you wanted to do a payment plan. 


To all the people that say faucets dont make money is because you dont own a faucet or even had the chance to make a decent profit making  faucet.

also just to clarify adsense does not close your account, yes if it reaches to a very large amount they will research the clicks, they do this to every website that starts to get massive amount of traffic not just faucets.

Proof of receipt of revenue? Proof of expenses of running your faucet? Proof your traffic is not violating the TOS of your sponsors?

yea quick seller all of this was already given.