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February 13, 2015, 05:30:14 PM
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http://www.statewatch.org/news/2015/jan/eu-council-ct-ds-1035-15.pdf (page 10)

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Since the Snowden revelations, internet and telecommunications companies have started to use often de-centralized encryption which increasingly makes lawful interception by the relevant national authorities technically difficult or even impossible. The Commission should be invited to explore rules obliging internet and telecommunications companies operating in the EU to provide under certain conditions as set out in the relevant national laws and in full compliance with fundamental rights access of the relevant national authorities to communications (i.e. share encryption keys).


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February 13, 2015, 05:40:49 PM
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WOW! That is insane, if true.

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February 13, 2015, 05:52:41 PM
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WOW! That is insane, if true.

It's not talked much about, probably because national media in different European countries don't follow what happens in the EU. For example there is supposedly a European Union president, but does anyone even know his name? I don't.

A large share of the European Union leadership have their political roots in former soviet satellite states with one party systems (the communist party). Craziness is expected to come from that.

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February 13, 2015, 05:58:59 PM
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WOW! That is insane, if true.

It's not talked much about, probably because national media in different European countries don't follow what happens in the EU. For example there is supposedly a European Union president, but does anyone even know his name? I don't.

A large share of the European Union leadership have their political roots in former soviet satellite states with one party systems (the communist party). Craziness is expected to come from that.
Sure, because the NSA is communist.

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February 13, 2015, 06:28:16 PM
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WOW! That is insane, if true.

It's not talked much about, probably because national media in different European countries don't follow what happens in the EU. For example there is supposedly a European Union president, but does anyone even know his name? I don't.

A large share of the European Union leadership have their political roots in former soviet satellite states with one party systems (the communist party). Craziness is expected to come from that.
Sure, because the NSA is communist.

NSA is just their new master.

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February 13, 2015, 08:01:17 PM
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... For example there is supposedly a European Union president, but does anyone even know his name? I don't.


No one knows. because there's no such thing as one EU president.

There are presidents of EU council/commission/parliament, those positions doesn't come with any real power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_European_Union



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February 13, 2015, 08:02:42 PM
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WOW! That is insane, if true.
inded , this is absoloutley mind blowing i hope it isent true tho o.o
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February 13, 2015, 08:47:01 PM
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Crypto war 2.0. We will win again.

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February 13, 2015, 08:50:58 PM
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Forcing companies to share encryption keys? That is ridiculous and destroys the whole security that encryption provides.
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February 13, 2015, 09:53:07 PM
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We'll be able to tell all of them " 'to be fruitful and multiply', but not in those words" when MaidSafe rolls in not before long.
We're going to become the sole masters of the keys.
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February 13, 2015, 10:46:52 PM
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What's the big deal. Simply stick to communication and storage services that don't HAVE your encryption key: SpiderOak, Wuala, Telegram (using Secret Chat), BitTorrent Bleep, etc.

No government can't force a company to share or reveal something they simply don't have.

In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
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February 13, 2015, 10:51:11 PM
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Even if this happens it will just be the start of a creation of new technologies that circumvent it.
Yep, exactly. In fact it's already begun. Plenty of alternatives that work on "need to know" basis. And you simply don't need to know your user's encryption keys to offer them cloud storage or communication or messaging services.

In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
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February 15, 2015, 02:12:26 PM
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Direct Democracy 2.0 is needed more than ever.

{ Imagine a sequence of bits generated from the first decimal place of the square roots of whole integers that are irrational numbers. If the decimal falls between 0 and 5, it's considered bit 0, and if it falls between 5 and 10, it's considered bit 1. This sequence from a simple integer count of contiguous irrationals and their logical decimal expansion of the first decimal place is called the 'main irrational stream.' Our goal is to design a physical and optical computing system system that can detect when this stream starts matching a specific pattern of a given size of bits. bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166760.0 } Satoshi did use a friend class in C++ and put a comment on the code saying: "This is why people hate C++".
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February 15, 2015, 02:31:38 PM
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MAIDsafe + meshnet = game over for them.
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February 15, 2015, 03:08:19 PM
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MAIDsafe + meshnet = game over for them.
You really think that they couldn't kill those projects if they wanted to...?

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February 15, 2015, 03:21:19 PM
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MAIDsafe + meshnet = game over for them.
You really think that they couldn't kill those projects if they wanted to...?
No they objectively cant.
Unless they raid homes randomly looking for nodes.
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