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February 15, 2015, 08:15:39 AM |
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There is a trend here from 'hacked accounts' gambling site stole money cheated etc if they was true they would be very welcome but chances are they are not.
Always newbie accounts and that makes me take little no notice anymore, unlucky on losing that amount of money if i am wrong and you actually did however 'doubtful' but you deserved it keeping that amount of money on an exchange with no 2fa in the first place.
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At the end it is his fault at 99% , because he didn't set up the 2FA on his btc-e account. Now the unique way is to contact the support and his police station. I'd say more like 100% his fault. The best part is that because he didn't have 2FA enabled it is pretty much impossible to ascertain how much of his system/accounts are compromised. If he had bothered to use 2FA and this actually happened then he could be certain that 2FA was hacked (meaning his entire system is compromised). Without 2FA he is going to have to get some scooby snacks and hire a crew of hippies to drive around the internet in a van looking for the criminal. Good luck with that. No no, he was wrong because he didn't set up the 2FA but he was also unfortunately unlucky. The first thing that I do when I register in a site it is to check if "they" are using the 2FA , and then set up it.
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February 15, 2015, 02:10:31 PM |
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Put up the sign.... "Do not feed the troll" It's just another newbie account, claiming ...."My coins were stolen" !!! .......Anyone can post @#$% like that. I would take this seriously when it's coming from a ranked member with a good reputation. If it's real, and from a ranked member trying to hide his/her real identity... then I apologize in advance and says one word.... 2FA ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) I don't personally think its someone making this up; but everything on here (whether from ranked members or new accounts) should be taken with a grain of salt until proven otherwise. We should still, as a community, read what this person has said to offer advice etc--in this instance the original poster honestly believes that 2FA is pointless and does not want to be swayed the other way. Good for them.
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ranochigo
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February 15, 2015, 02:37:35 PM |
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You are being unreasonable. No one would bother hacking a email than a 40,000 USD account. The possibility of malware infection on your computer is high considered that theres no 2FA configured on your account. If it is a inside job, there would most likely be no trade of IP logins.
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ik_do
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February 16, 2015, 12:12:29 PM |
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You should also link to some resources that cover how 2FA can help to stop unauthorized access. Given that the exchange just had 7000+ BTC stolen you're probably never going to get help (even with a warrant).
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Godzilla99 (OP)
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February 16, 2015, 02:17:33 PM |
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Put up the sign.... "Do not feed the troll" It's just another newbie account, claiming ...."My coins were stolen" !!! .......Anyone can post @#$% like that. I would take this seriously when it's coming from a ranked member with a good reputation. If it's real, and from a ranked member trying to hide his/her real identity... then I apologize in advance and says one word.... 2FA ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) I don't personally think its someone making this up; but everything on here (whether from ranked members or new accounts) should be taken with a grain of salt until proven otherwise. We should still, as a community, read what this person has said to offer advice etc--in this instance the original poster honestly believes that 2FA is pointless and does not want to be swayed the other way. Good for them. I'm allready swayed! But question is quite different! There is my fault that I have not payed attention . But what I'm trying to say that there is there fault too and . 1) If ssl or tls is easy to be hacked http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/end-ssl-poodle/they should inform about that in that case 2FA should be obligatory! 2) They should care about the clients like me (keeping that amount of money there) and investigate this case carefully because there is a big chance that is not me is hacked but them
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February 16, 2015, 03:43:29 PM |
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Your only avenue of recourse seems to be reporting the matter to the police. No one else is going to be able to help you.
I'm glad that you have been swayed, as much as any security feature can be hacked they do actually exist for a reason and make a serious difference in protecting you.
Best of luck.
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February 16, 2015, 03:53:21 PM Last edit: February 16, 2015, 04:45:13 PM by altcoinUK |
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Disclaimer: I always use 2FA to secure the access to my accounts.
Having said that it is fucking ridiculous that the OP user is blamed by many in this thread for not having 2FA in his account. Because ... there is an absolutely doggy exchange nobody knows it operates where, perhaps it is in fucking Bulgaria or perhaps it is in Zimbabwe, we don't know where, it uses Czech banks and having registered the business in Cyprus by nobody knows who ... but regardless wherever and whoever they are the exchange is offering a service of performing financial transactions and the condition of the service was clearly not that the user must have 2FA. The terms of conditions isn't that must have 2FA otherwise the exchange unable to keep safe the coins - quite the opposite, any sane person quite rightly would assume and expect that the exchange (by definition) will keep the coins safe or if there is a claim that the coins were stolen then the exchange would do a full and thorough investigation instead of saying that fuck off because the user must have 2FA. Yes, the best practice is having 2FA settings, but since it was not the condition of the service the exchange must look into the case and take responsibilities for the loss of the funds. I am sure the exchanges experience with many false claims about stolen funds, but for that reason the dealing with complaints must be a standard procedure and the communication (IP Addresses, etc) and transaction logs must be available for users who initiate a complaint without police investigation.
The jurisdiction is Cyprus. I suggest the user contact the Cyprus police and bring the crooks of BTC-E to justice, it is time the owners pay for the doggy anonymous jamboree when they take the commission and profit from the transactions, but not willing to take responsibility of their poor system security and business practices.
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Godzilla99 (OP)
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February 19, 2015, 10:54:33 AM |
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There are some news about hacking my account. There is charts bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ltccnh here. if you go on the chart to 07/02/2015 3-30AM you will see the price down to 1 CNH for LTC on the candle. That was the time when my account was hacked and all deals from my account were made 3-30 - 4-00 AM.
But if you go on the chart to 07/02/2015 1-30 AM you will see the similar price down to 1 CNH for LTC on the candle with an even bigger volume sold.
Therefore I can make a definite conclusion that there were some other people who suffered from that hack (I really doubt that somebody would have made deals on LTC/CNH by that price on his own money)
That means that either the btc-e was hacked through there own vulnerability or there was thief inside btc-e team.
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February 19, 2015, 11:25:58 AM |
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There are some news about hacking my account. There is charts bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ltccnh here. if you go on the chart to 07/02/2015 3-30AM you will see the price down to 1 CNH for LTC on the candle. That was the time when my account was hacked and all deals from my account were made 3-30 - 4-00 AM.
But if you go on the chart to 07/02/2015 1-30 AM you will see the similar price down to 1 CNH for LTC on the candle with an even bigger volume sold.
Therefore I can make a definite conclusion that there were some other people who suffered from that hack (I really doubt that somebody would have made deals on LTC/CNH by that price on his own money)
That means that either the btc-e was hacked through there own vulnerability or there was thief inside btc-e team.
this is not a solid proof for saying that there was a thief inside btc-e team, you need a more solid proof before you accuse btc-e stealing your coins
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Godzilla99 (OP)
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February 19, 2015, 05:07:25 PM |
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There are some news about hacking my account. There is charts bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ltccnh here. if you go on the chart to 07/02/2015 3-30AM you will see the price down to 1 CNH for LTC on the candle. That was the time when my account was hacked and all deals from my account were made 3-30 - 4-00 AM.
But if you go on the chart to 07/02/2015 1-30 AM you will see the similar price down to 1 CNH for LTC on the candle with an even bigger volume sold.
Therefore I can make a definite conclusion that there were some other people who suffered from that hack (I really doubt that somebody would have made deals on LTC/CNH by that price on his own money)
That means that either the btc-e was hacked through there own vulnerability or there was thief inside btc-e team.
this is not a solid proof for saying that there was a thief inside btc-e team, you need a more solid proof before you accuse btc-e stealing your coins It is only assumption! One of the two I can make considering the facts. May be there is something else, but they are so silent. No one official reply to the forums only one reply to an email: "Your account is blocked the situation is under investigation"! It is allready 10 days has come over! What else can assume??? Look at the history of the deals. takebin.com/u/ddc185a5A5 And there were such deals two hours before!
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February 19, 2015, 05:50:28 PM |
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There are some news about hacking my account. There is charts bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ltccnh here. if you go on the chart to 07/02/2015 3-30AM you will see the price down to 1 CNH for LTC on the candle. That was the time when my account was hacked and all deals from my account were made 3-30 - 4-00 AM.
But if you go on the chart to 07/02/2015 1-30 AM you will see the similar price down to 1 CNH for LTC on the candle with an even bigger volume sold.
Therefore I can make a definite conclusion that there were some other people who suffered from that hack (I really doubt that somebody would have made deals on LTC/CNH by that price on his own money)
That means that either the btc-e was hacked through there own vulnerability or there was thief inside btc-e team.
this is not a solid proof for saying that there was a thief inside btc-e team, you need a more solid proof before you accuse btc-e stealing your coins It is only assumption! One of the two I can make considering the facts. May be there is something else, but they are so silent. No one official reply to the forums only one reply to an email: "Your account is blocked the situation is under investigation"! It is allready 10 days has come over! What else can assume??? Look at the history of the deals. takebin.com/u/ddc185a5A5 And there were such deals two hours before! yes i agree, btc-e is pretty silent, and who is the owner of that site isnt known until now so if they decide to run away, no one will have anyone to sue
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February 19, 2015, 05:56:52 PM |
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so the moral of the story is use 2fa or get possibly screwed over.
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March 27, 2015, 12:46:37 AM |
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Godzilla99, where are you?
BTC-E have self-mode topic in Service Announcements. It is not good sign. You try write to official topic?
I have deleted posts in official topic, ban's in trollbox chat.
I had a chat moderator in btc-e before. But I wrote about scam of other chatmoderator( and itzod and ltcmine and novacoin owner) Balthazar on the bitcointalk. And I was deprived of authority chatmoderator. In the chat me block (3 days, 15 days, 60 days) under the false pretext. And even do so without explaining the reason. In the official topic my message was deleted.
I suffered for the truth about Bathazar scams!
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May 08, 2015, 10:50:18 PM |
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These pathetic liars and thieves are advertising "instant deposit/withdrawal all coin" although they will just withhold funds from new users for at least three days without prior announcement. Completely ruined my weekend. I told these criminals to return control over MY FUNDS to me within a couple of hours. No reaction, so I will proceed against them in every legal way available to me now. Watch me.
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May 09, 2015, 07:25:13 AM |
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Quit acting as if BTC-E wasn't a scam, you pathetic troll! I'm so tired of this shit and now that these criminal assholes have fucked my life, I will give them their money's worth.
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May 09, 2015, 07:52:01 AM |
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These pathetic liars and thieves are advertising "instant deposit/withdrawal all coin" although they will just withhold funds from new users for at least three days without prior announcement. Completely ruined my weekend. I told these criminals to return control over MY FUNDS to me within a couple of hours. No reaction, so I will proceed against them in every legal way available to me now. Watch me.
Calm down, you aren't going to do shit. First, you obv didn't do your due diligence. Second, BTC-E does all sorts of fuckery to try and help prevent phishers and what not from stealing your shit. Third, good fkn luck finding anything about them for your legal proceedings. Wait the three days and then move on. Perhaps this time use an exchange that isn't some Bulgarian/Russian exchange that all of the criminals use.
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May 09, 2015, 09:26:39 AM |
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This story is suspicious but there is plausible deniability for BTC-e to claim your account got hacked another way. I do find it odd that your account got hacked when you use a mac however, there are very few viruses targeting Macs.
Why haven't you filed a police report? Do it
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