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How the fuck can you lose 7000 bitcoins from a cold storage, and why on earth would you keep all the funds in 1 wallet ? who taught them to do security ?
You can't. Which is why everything points it to be an inside job. The person who transfers coins between hot and cold storage could've had a trojan on his computer? This would explain why after the normal 100 BTC transfers the actual theft happened. |
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johnyj
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February 16, 2015, 07:49:22 AM |
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Start an exchange -> get lots of customer deposit -> claim to be hacked -> profit
Bitcoin lost is not in any protection of law, only fiat money, if they could just return the fiat money to users, they will get away leagally
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mishax1
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February 16, 2015, 08:03:29 AM |
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Start an exchange -> get lots of customer deposit -> claim to be hacked -> profit
Bitcoin lost is not in any protection of law, only fiat money, if they could just return the fiat money to users, they will get away leagally
Exactly, and while BTER went to the police to report a hacker, we should go to the police and report an inside job theft. |
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nomad13666
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February 16, 2015, 08:13:42 AM |
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Start an exchange -> get lots of customer deposit -> claim to be hacked -> profit
Bitcoin lost is not in any protection of law, only fiat money, if they could just return the fiat money to users, they will get away leagally
Yep. Sad but true. |
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sgk
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February 16, 2015, 08:52:12 AM |
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Start an exchange -> get lots of customer deposit -> claim to be hacked -> profit
Bitcoin lost is not in any protection of law, only fiat money, if they could just return the fiat money to users, they will get away leagally
Would be a real embarrassment and a lot of trouble for them if someone wins that 720 BTC bounty and the thief turns out to be BTER themselves. |
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turvarya
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February 16, 2015, 08:53:41 AM |
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Start an exchange -> get lots of customer deposit -> claim to be hacked -> profit
Bitcoin lost is not in any protection of law, only fiat money, if they could just return the fiat money to users, they will get away leagally
What do you mean by "not in any protection of law"? In the USA Bitcoin are property, so it is still property theft, isn't it? (not sure about other countries, not even my own ^^ ) |
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nomad13666
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February 16, 2015, 10:43:21 PM |
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Start an exchange -> get lots of customer deposit -> claim to be hacked -> profit
Bitcoin lost is not in any protection of law, only fiat money, if they could just return the fiat money to users, they will get away leagally
What do you mean by "not in any protection of law"? In the USA Bitcoin are property, so it is still property theft, isn't it? (not sure about other countries, not even my own ^^ ) Yep. Stealing is stealing. Period  |
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February 16, 2015, 11:34:26 PM |
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Start an exchange -> get lots of customer deposit -> claim to be hacked -> profit
Bitcoin lost is not in any protection of law, only fiat money, if they could just return the fiat money to users, they will get away leagally
Would be a real embarrassment and a lot of trouble for them if someone wins that 720 BTC bounty and the thief turns out to be BTER themselves. At that point they would chose to end it , and resort to stealing. |
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tss
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February 17, 2015, 02:02:33 AM |
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Once again lose of 18 btc + alt i am finished first matgox, then bfl, then gaw, then chris, then due to fucking scamer its last time i am dealing with international exchanges. Now i will try to find out local exchange  really.. you lost btc on all of these? even gaw? you should not pretend to have any btc anymore. no one believes you. |
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acsonline
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February 17, 2015, 06:11:14 AM |
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Once again lose of 18 btc + alt i am finished first matgox, then bfl, then gaw, then chris, then due to fucking scamer its last time i am dealing with international exchanges. Now i will try to find out local exchange really.. you lost btc on all of these? even gaw? you should not pretend to have any btc anymore. no one believes you. Yes its true starting from mtgox . And why you so serious about GAW. The major lose was with gaw. Because of their fucking 20$ promise. And i am not here to collect any charity so who cares anyone believes or not and the people wholost money in all these definitely know what i am feeling :-) And once more gaw the largest scammers. |
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hangar18
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February 17, 2015, 06:58:05 AM |
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be wise with your coins, do not store all your coins on an exchange
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sgk
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February 17, 2015, 07:15:09 AM |
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Once again lose of 18 btc + alt i am finished first matgox, then bfl, then gaw, then chris, then due to fucking scamer its last time i am dealing with international exchanges. Now i will try to find out local exchange Wow... looks like all the scammers are targeting you wherever you go! Let me know where you have kept your coins now, so that I can immediately withdraw my coins from it  Just joking. But seriously dude.. you were a victim of all these scams, and yet you kept 18+ BTC on a chinese exchange? Tell me you have thousands of BTC and 18+ is nothing for you. |
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acsonline
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February 17, 2015, 07:53:12 AM |
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Once again lose of 18 btc + alt i am finished first matgox, then bfl, then gaw, then chris, then due to fucking scamer its last time i am dealing with international exchanges. Now i will try to find out local exchange Wow... looks like all the scammers are targeting you wherever you go! Let me know where you have kept your coins now, so that I can immediately withdraw my coins from it Just joking. But seriously dude.. you were a victim of all these scams, and yet you kept 18+ BTC on a chinese exchange? Tell me you have thousands of BTC and 18+ is nothing for you. Nop bro now i dont have btc i have alt voins and fiat ( limited ) and start exchange with the same :-) |
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acsonline
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February 17, 2015, 10:39:44 AM |
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be wise with your coins, do not store all your coins on an exchange
+1000 Then the only wise way that everyone haveto start there own exchange and trade only on that :-) |
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harry_weener
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February 17, 2015, 10:46:34 AM |
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be wise with your coins, do not store all your coins on an exchange
+1000 Then the only wise way that everyone haveto start there own exchange and trade only on that :-) In-wallet trading would probably be a good alternative  |
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Picasso7
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February 17, 2015, 05:04:40 PM |
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Who is Lin Han ?
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tss
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February 17, 2015, 06:56:39 PM |
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Once again lose of 18 btc + alt i am finished first matgox, then bfl, then gaw, then chris, then due to fucking scamer its last time i am dealing with international exchanges. Now i will try to find out local exchange really.. you lost btc on all of these? even gaw? you should not pretend to have any btc anymore. no one believes you. Yes its true starting from mtgox . And why you so serious about GAW. The major lose was with gaw. Because of their fucking 20$ promise. And i am not here to collect any charity so who cares anyone believes or not and the people wholost money in all these definitely know what i am feeling :-) And once more gaw the largest scammers. gaw was pretty obvious from the start. a fool and his bitcoin are easily parted. |
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February 17, 2015, 07:24:04 PM |
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Once again lose of 18 btc + alt i am finished first matgox, then bfl, then gaw, then chris, then due to fucking scamer its last time i am dealing with international exchanges. Now i will try to find out local exchange really.. you lost btc on all of these? even gaw? you should not pretend to have any btc anymore. no one believes you. Yes its true starting from mtgox . And why you so serious about GAW. The major lose was with gaw. Because of their fucking 20$ promise. And i am not here to collect any charity so who cares anyone believes or not and the people wholost money in all these definitely know what i am feeling :-) And once more gaw the largest scammers. gaw was pretty obvious from the start. a fool and his bitcoin are easily parted. The 20$ promise must have made them millions and acsonline is only one of thousands of others who were ripped off. A large percentage of bitcointalk members must have been ripped off by them. |
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prodigy8
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February 18, 2015, 04:30:11 AM |
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it is not recommended to keep large amounts of coin on an exchange due to the risk of exchange failure, hacking etc. I personally leave only 10% of my "Bank"
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February 18, 2015, 06:57:00 AM |
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How the fuck can you lose 7000 bitcoins from a cold storage, and why on earth would you keep all the funds in 1 wallet ? who taught them to do security ?
You can't. Which is why everything points it to be an inside job. The person who transfers coins between hot and cold storage could've had a trojan on his computer? This would explain why after the normal 100 BTC transfers the actual theft happened. What a smart insider would do? He would steal privkeys, import them to his wallet, then wait for a withdrawal from the cold wallet, immediately after that he would empty their cold wallet to make it look like they got a trojan on their cold wallet system, which wasn't truly cold if that happened. We can't be sure what exactly happened. It looks like it was a trojan, but insider theft would probably look exctly the same. |
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