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February 16, 2015, 05:24:06 PM |
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Im looking to buy sha256 miner asic. Just to try it and help the bitcoin network. So wonder what should i be lloking for? Have a feeling main thing novadays is a power effectivness. So what asic today have the best hash to power ratio?
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February 16, 2015, 06:09:05 PM |
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Im looking to buy sha256 miner asic. Just to try it and help the bitcoin network. So wonder what should i be lloking for? Have a feeling main thing novadays is a power effectivness. So what asic today have the best hash to power ratio?
I would think either a Bitmain S5 or a Spondoolies
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February 16, 2015, 06:28:30 PM |
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Exactly. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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February 17, 2015, 02:03:26 AM |
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I wouldn't even consider buying a miner from another company but Bitmain or Spondoolies at the moment. Maybe Asicminer, once they prove that they can build a unit that doesn't Erupt into flames.
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February 18, 2015, 09:35:30 AM |
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What about Avalon 4.1? Looks to be a good miner also.
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February 18, 2015, 09:46:49 AM |
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What about Avalon 4.1? Looks to be a good miner also.
I think that it is too noisy and not worth the money
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February 20, 2015, 01:08:38 PM |
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Currently Bitmain and Spondoolies. "Tomorrow" (i.e. soon) likely ASICMiner and BitFury
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February 20, 2015, 05:21:20 PM |
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What about Avalon 4.1? Looks to be a good miner also.
I think that it is too noisy and not worth the money Easy to tell who reads the reviews!! Trends
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February 20, 2015, 05:30:43 PM |
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What about Avalon 4.1? Looks to be a good miner also.
Not as efficient as either the SPTech or Bitmain products.
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February 20, 2015, 05:36:26 PM |
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Spondoolies Tech Bitmaintech
of course if you want wholesale
Bitfury
Avoid the rest.
These companies will provide you the best options and prices especially if you have a larger order.
If you a just want a single miner to play with get something used that isn't overly efficient as you wouldn't able to make or recoup the costs really.
If you are not looking at Ph/s then you are not really in the game at this point and you'd be better off supporting the "network" by BUYING BTC and using it.
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February 20, 2015, 05:59:25 PM |
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KNC just announced that they are in tapeout phase with their 16nm mining chips, but that of course is going to their farm and cloud mining. (don't buy from knc)
I would advise you to wait for the 16nm and in the meantime buy bitcoin on its dips..
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February 20, 2015, 09:28:26 PM |
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What about Avalon 4.1? Looks to be a good miner also.
Ok miner from a bad company. Avoid Avalon at all costs.
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February 23, 2015, 02:49:50 AM |
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KNC just announced that they are in tapeout phase with their 16nm mining chips, but that of course is going to their farm and cloud mining. (don't buy from knc)
I would advise you to wait for the 16nm and in the meantime buy bitcoin on its dips..
TSMC will produce 16nm chip in 3Q2015 How KNC will get 16nm chip before?
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February 23, 2015, 03:02:16 AM |
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TSMC will produce 16nm chip in 3Q2015 How KNC will get 16nm chip before?
Intel Core M-5Y10a for example is 14nm technology and shipped last year. Also I think a SHA-chip is much easier to get to tape out than a gpu/cpu, so it would not be too surprising to see an ASIC of any kind of a given node size before a cpu/gpu.
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February 23, 2015, 07:43:55 AM |
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TSMC will produce 16nm chip in 3Q2015 How KNC will get 16nm chip before?
Intel Core M-5Y10a for example is 14nm technology and shipped last year. Also I think a SHA-chip is much easier to get to tape out than a gpu/cpu, so it would not be too surprising to see an ASIC of any kind of a given node size before a cpu/gpu. The thing is that TSMC in 2014 said that they will have 16nm in 1Q2015. After that KNC and Cointerra said that they will have 16nm chip also in 1Q2015. TSMC delay producing to 3Q2015, Cointerra bankrupt, about 50 customers have lawsuit against KNC.. So should we believe them?
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February 23, 2015, 07:48:10 AM |
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TSMC will produce 16nm chip in 3Q2015 How KNC will get 16nm chip before?
Intel Core M-5Y10a for example is 14nm technology and shipped last year. Also I think a SHA-chip is much easier to get to tape out than a gpu/cpu, so it would not be too surprising to see an ASIC of any kind of a given node size before a cpu/gpu. The thing is that TSMC in 2014 said that they will have 16nm in 1Q2015. After that KNC and Cointerra said that they will have 16nm chip also in 1Q2015. TSMC delay producing to 3Q2015, Cointerra bankrupt, about 50 customers have lawsuit against KNC.. So should we believe them? From WIKI: Tape-out In electronics design, tape-out or tapeout is the final result of the design cycle for integrated circuits or printed circuit boards, the point at which the artwork for the photomask of a circuit is sent for manufacture
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February 24, 2015, 08:16:23 AM |
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TSMC will produce 16nm chip in 3Q2015 How KNC will get 16nm chip before?
Intel Core M-5Y10a for example is 14nm technology and shipped last year. Also I think a SHA-chip is much easier to get to tape out than a gpu/cpu, so it would not be too surprising to see an ASIC of any kind of a given node size before a cpu/gpu. The thing is that TSMC in 2014 said that they will have 16nm in 1Q2015. After that KNC and Cointerra said that they will have 16nm chip also in 1Q2015. TSMC delay producing to 3Q2015, Cointerra bankrupt, about 50 customers have lawsuit against KNC.. So should we believe them? From WIKI: Tape-out In electronics design, tape-out or tapeout is the final result of the design cycle for integrated circuits or printed circuit boards, the point at which the artwork for the photomask of a circuit is sent for manufactureWhat does it mean? Will KNC have 16nm next month?
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February 24, 2015, 08:19:52 AM |
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Probably in like 4-6 months until operational hardware.
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February 24, 2015, 08:20:31 AM |
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It means that they have reached tape-out stage, reaching that stage has no bearing on how long it takes from tape-out to reach full production, minimum is probably around 3-6 months. But if they have to wait for foundry could be much longer.
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February 25, 2015, 04:16:55 AM |
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It means that they have reached tape-out stage, reaching that stage has no bearing on how long it takes from tape-out to reach full production, minimum is probably around 3-6 months. But if they have to wait for foundry could be much longer.
Thank you, now it's clear. So next power improvement will on 28nm chip by BitFury, ASICMiner or Spondoolies. We'll see who will the first, more effective and whether overtake Bitmain with upgrade S2 (0.4W/Ghs if we may believe them). Likely AM or BitFury will produce earlier than Spondoolies.
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