The Forum is Dying

[haploid23]

And newbie jail didn't protect against that, it just delayed them a few days. I remember I graduated newbie jail pretty quickly.

A few days? I think it was initially four hours browsing time and few posts but then was reduced to just one post I think before being removed completely. There are pros and cons to it but it probably turned many users away instantly and only confined the spam to beginners and help for a short while before they quickly broke free.

You guys think newbie jail during your times was bad? When I registered, they didn't even have newbie jail yet and I was free to post anywhere. Then it was implemented a few weeks later, and I got thrown in newb jail. The worst part was that we had to request to get out, and the rule was to give a reason why you deserve to be let out lol. You can tell the truth, or just BS anything. Mods had to whitelist people manually, and were slow to do it.

One of the most inefficient systems implemented right after registration.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15911.msg251582#msg251582

[Muhammed Zakir]

And newbie jail didn't protect against that, it just delayed them a few days. I remember I graduated newbie jail pretty quickly.

A few days? I think it was initially four hours browsing time and few posts but then was reduced to just one post I think before being removed completely. There are pros and cons to it but it probably turned many users away instantly and only confined the spam to beginners and help for a short while before they quickly broke free.

You guys think newbie jail during your times was bad? When I registered, they didn't even have newbie jail yet and I was free to post anywhere. Then it was implemented a few weeks later, and I got thrown in newb jail. The worst part was that we had to request to get out, and the rule was to give a reason why you deserve to be let out lol. You can tell the truth, or just BS anything. Mods had to whitelist people manually, and were slow to do it.

One of the most inefficient systems implemented right after registration.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15911.msg251582#msg251582

Were you whitelisted?

P.S. I like your request in that post! +1.

   -MZ

[Amph]

If you look around you'll see the signs...

-currency exchange section is slower then ever.
-posts are becoming more and more spam-like
-people are selling their accounts left and right
-the overall mood just doesn't seem positive anymore

I know me personally, I haven't held bitcoin overnight in months and don't plan to anytime soon. As for forum use, I come on, but only for business-purposes to convert payments I've received in bitcoin to fiat. I got into bitcoin beginning of 2013 and once it hit $300 (on way up) is when I said overpriced and got out.

Its a good idea however the price fluctuations honestly I think are what makes bitcoin unable to sustain being a growing currency. No one wants to go to sleep at night and every morning worry "Did I just lose 10% or more of my money overnight?". My margins are 10% and overnight a couple weeks ago I said what the hell I'll just leave it in bitcoin and I woke up and down 10%+. I lost my profit on my sale + more...what business owner is ever going to want to take that risk? From then on I converted all payments to fiat on exchanges and then sell for fiat to people here and LBC (not converting back to bitcoin until I find a person willing to buy said bitcoin).

Its sad really - I had high hopes for this currency and when it was stable around $100 for a long time is when I truly believed in it. It was relative stable. We'll see if it ever revives, honestly I doubt it. Biggest problems by far: liquidity and price stability

I would be very interested in knowing if casinos or services using bitcoin have had a drop in the overall USD worth of the action / money spent over last couple months to support the above.

the bitcoin fall caused that, along with the dead scene of the altcoin section, which turned in a bunch of faggot devs who try to scam only, via malicious code, also too many of them turned the market in a far west with a high dilution in price

[freedomno1]

And newbie jail didn't protect against that, it just delayed them a few days. I remember I graduated newbie jail pretty quickly.

A few days? I think it was initially four hours browsing time and few posts but then was reduced to just one post I think before being removed completely. There are pros and cons to it but it probably turned many users away instantly and only confined the spam to beginners and help for a short while before they quickly broke free.

You guys think newbie jail during your times was bad? When I registered, they didn't even have newbie jail yet and I was free to post anywhere. Then it was implemented a few weeks later, and I got thrown in newb jail. The worst part was that we had to request to get out, and the rule was to give a reason why you deserve to be let out lol. You can tell the truth, or just BS anything. Mods had to whitelist people manually, and were slow to do it.

One of the most inefficient systems implemented right after registration.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15911.msg251582#msg251582

But the whitelist worked fine
Just had to post a technical question in that section and you got whistled right on through since I did that lol.

You have been manually whitelisted by a moderator. You can now post in the regular sections.

(This is an automated message.)

[SaltySpitoon]

But the whitelist worked fine
Just had to post a technical question in that section and you got whistled right on through since I did that lol.

You have been manually whitelisted by a moderator. You can now post in the regular sections.

(This is an automated message.)

Ehh, I was a moderator luckily only for a few months with the whitelist system, and it was not fun. I remember going through newbie jail, I dont think it had a post requirement at the time, I just left Bitcointalk open for 4 hours and just went and did something else. I also delayed signing up for a few months, using a friends account because I didn't feel like going through newbie jail. People don't seem to realize that getting rid of newbie jail doesn't really change much, it just delays spammers/bots by 4 hours, so essentially after 4 hours of changing the newbie jail system, things would go back to normal. Anyway, report bots/spammers/account farmers if you see them. There are a few staff members who are really good at purging large numbers of spammers at once. Report one, and 20 will go away quickly.

[Lorenzo]

If you look around you'll see the signs...

-currency exchange section is slower then ever.
-posts are becoming more and more spam-like
-people are selling their accounts left and right
-the overall mood just doesn't seem positive anymore

I know me personally, I haven't held bitcoin overnight in months and don't plan to anytime soon. As for forum use, I come on, but only for business-purposes to convert payments I've received in bitcoin to fiat. I got into bitcoin beginning of 2013 and once it hit $300 (on way up) is when I said overpriced and got out.

Its a good idea however the price fluctuations honestly I think are what makes bitcoin unable to sustain being a growing currency. No one wants to go to sleep at night and every morning worry "Did I just lose 10% or more of my money overnight?". My margins are 10% and overnight a couple weeks ago I said what the hell I'll just leave it in bitcoin and I woke up and down 10%+. I lost my profit on my sale + more...what business owner is ever going to want to take that risk? From then on I converted all payments to fiat on exchanges and then sell for fiat to people here and LBC (not converting back to bitcoin until I find a person willing to buy said bitcoin).

Its sad really - I had high hopes for this currency and when it was stable around $100 for a long time is when I truly believed in it. It was relative stable. We'll see if it ever revives, honestly I doubt it. Biggest problems by far: liquidity and price stability

I would be very interested in knowing if casinos or services using bitcoin have had a drop in the overall USD worth of the action / money spent over last couple months to support the above.

I take it you weren't on these forums in late 2011?

The spike in November attracted a huge amount of new users to these forums. Same thing happened in 2011 when the world found out about Bitcoin for the first time. After the price skyrocketed to over $33 in June 2011 and then crashed and continued falling all the way down to $3, the tone of the posts in the forums suddenly went all gloomy and negative and activity went down. Well, the same thing is happening right now.

Some examples:

At what pricepoint is bitcoin dead?

At present difficulty levels, for me personally, anything below $8-$10/BTC is mostly a waste of time mining wise.  The video cards are paid for, but at 0.50 BTC a day, I'm getting what, $60 a month so basically just covering electric.

As the price continues to fall like the last month or two, at what point should we consider it "dead"?

Link: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47480

Bitcoin will never reach $20 again

This is why I have liquidated my position in Bitcoins.  There is very little upside going forward.  No forward moves of late have any traction whatsoever and demand continues to lag.  Way too little upside for such a risky proposition so my advice is to move into dollars.  Only a significant change in the economy could alter this forecast.

Link: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27348

[Raize]

I take it you weren't on these forums in late 2011?

I don't think he was. The sentiment was really poor as you noted. I even made the argument that miners would start purchasing coins if difficulty fell too low in late 2011 and people thought I was insane back then. I could make a similar statement today and people would similarly disagree that there are both people willing to mine at a loss and former miners willing to buy to support the price.

On the topic of newbie jail, when did it first start? I don't seem to remember it and I've only been around maybe just a little bit longer than the rest of you, I thought.

[picolo]

I take it you weren't on these forums in late 2011?

I don't think he was. The sentiment was really poor as you noted. I even made the argument that miners would start purchasing coins if difficulty fell too low in late 2011 and people thought I was insane back then. I could make a similar statement today and people would similarly disagree that there are both people willing to mine at a loss and former miners willing to buy to support the price.

On the topic of newbie jail, when did it first start? I don't seem to remember it and I've only been around maybe just a little bit longer than the rest of you, I thought.

The forum is up and running fine. The price is recovering slowly but steadily. The near future looks bright.