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February 27, 2015, 06:34:33 PM
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Full-body transplants will be possible within two years, says controversial surgeon Sergio Canavero

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The world’s first full-body transplant – in which someone’s head would be sewn onto a donor body – could take place in just two years, according to a controversial surgeon.
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Mr Canavero said: “I think we are now at a point when the technical aspects are all feasible. If society doesn't want it, I won't do it. But if people don't want it in the US or Europe, that doesn't mean it won't be done somewhere else. I'm trying to go about this the right way, but before going to the moon, you want to make sure people will follow you

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Soon we will see 'rich wise heads on young shoulders'. Now the Western oligarchs will finally find some use for the younger poor and disadvantaged (So long as they have a healthy body)

What do you guys think?

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February 27, 2015, 07:04:03 PM
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That brings new meaning to the label parasitic aristocracy.
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February 27, 2015, 07:26:01 PM
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That brings new meaning to the label parasitic aristocracy.

Yeah, and a whole new meaning to the phrase "give head".
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February 27, 2015, 08:07:28 PM
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That brings new meaning to the label parasitic aristocracy.

Yeah, and a whole new meaning to the phrase "give head".
Two years is a bit optimistic i would say .
Talking about giving head the old way, my lover spends far to much time with the bitcoiners these days instead of going down
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February 27, 2015, 08:16:18 PM
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That brings new meaning to the label parasitic aristocracy.

Yeah, and a whole new meaning to the phrase "give head".
Two years is a bit optimistic i would say .
Talking about giving head the old way, my lover spends far to much time with the bitcoiners these days instead of going down

Very optimistic but it would incredible to be able to do it.
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February 27, 2015, 08:18:56 PM
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This is interesting. How do they join two spinal cords?
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February 27, 2015, 08:25:58 PM
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This is interesting. How do they join two spinal cords?

Doctor Sergio Canavero certainly has something up his sleeve by proposing in 2013 the HEAVEN/GEMINI protocol for human head transplantation.

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In 1902, Stewart and Harte reported on  CN, aged 26 years, who had her spinal cord severed by a 0.32 caliber gunshot. The distance between the segments of the cord was 0.75 inch, as verified by all five attending physicians:
"The ends of the cord were then approximated with 3 chromicized catgut sutures passed by means of a small staphylorraphy needle, one suture being passed anteroposteriorly through the entire thickness of the cord and the other two being passed transversely. This part of the operation was attended with unusual difficulties because of…the wide interval between the fragments, the catgut frequently tearing out before the ends were finally brought together." Sixteen months later, "the patient slides out of bed into her chair by her own efforts and is able to stand with either hand on the back of a chair, thus supporting much of the weight of the body."

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February 27, 2015, 09:22:16 PM
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I can't see it ever being feasible, let alone in two years. That's the type of time frame you slap on your proclamation so the press covers it.

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February 27, 2015, 09:25:39 PM
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I can't see it ever being feasible, let alone in two years. That's the type of time frame you slap on your proclamation so the press covers it.

Even if it is possible, it would be like Necromancy except without the magic, utterly fucked up medical science piecing peoples' body parts together onto one person for the sake of lengthening their lifespan and you also have the issue of the black market and what criminals would do with that kind of technology.

I don't think that kind of technology in particular should exist in the first place.
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February 27, 2015, 09:26:28 PM
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I can't see it ever being feasible, let alone in two years. That's the type of time frame you slap on your proclamation so the press covers it.

What is not feasible? Finding a decent body if you have billions in your pockets? There had been similar surgeries on dogs (by the Soviets in 1950s) and on a monkey in 1970, the main obstacle being rejection by the body’s immune system (which seems to be mainly overcome by now).
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February 27, 2015, 09:30:32 PM
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I can't see it ever being feasible, let alone in two years. That's the type of time frame you slap on your proclamation so the press covers it.

Even if it is possible, it would be like Necromancy except without the magic, utterly fucked up medical science piecing peoples' body parts together onto one person for the sake of lengthening their lifespan and you also have the issue of the black market and what criminals would do with that kind of technology.

I don't think that kind of technology in particular should exist in the first place.

What about transplantation of hearts, kidneys, livers, etc? Do we not have the black market for organ transplantation right now?

Besides that, the real necromancy is bringing dead people back to life. Should we ban resuscitators?
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February 27, 2015, 09:39:15 PM
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I can't see it ever being feasible, let alone in two years. That's the type of time frame you slap on your proclamation so the press covers it.

What is not feasible? Finding a decent body if you have billions in your pockets? There had been similar surgeries on dogs (by the Soviets in 1950s) and on a monkey in 1970, the main obstacle being rejection by the body’s immune system (which is now mainly overcome).

Sewing a monky's head on another monkey body is not analogous to a human head transplant where you hope to have any quality of life afterwards. The science is what I find unfeasible, or the fact that it would ever be deemed ethically acceptable.

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February 27, 2015, 09:43:28 PM
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I can't see it ever being feasible, let alone in two years. That's the type of time frame you slap on your proclamation so the press covers it.

Even if it is possible, it would be like Necromancy except without the magic, utterly fucked up medical science piecing peoples' body parts together onto one person for the sake of lengthening their lifespan and you also have the issue of the black market and what criminals would do with that kind of technology.

I don't think that kind of technology in particular should exist in the first place.

What about transplantation of hearts, kidneys, livers, etc? Do we not have the black market for organ transplantation right now?

Besides that, the real necromancy is bringing dead people back to life. Should we ban resuscitators?

I knew people would bring that up Tongue yeah but they aren't from living unwilling victims are they? Which is where my worry comes from,  besides, we have embryo's etc. for growing that shit now without killing off a healthy human being that's already fully grown.
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February 27, 2015, 09:43:37 PM
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Nasty.

Frankenstein for real. No thanks.

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February 27, 2015, 09:44:04 PM
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I can't see it ever being feasible, let alone in two years. That's the type of time frame you slap on your proclamation so the press covers it.

What is not feasible? Finding a decent body if you have billions in your pockets? There had been similar surgeries on dogs (by the Soviets in 1950s) and on a monkey in 1970, the main obstacle being rejection by the body’s immune system (which is now mainly overcome).

Sewing a monky's head on another monkey body is not analogous to a human head transplant where you hope to have any quality of life afterwards. The science is what I find unfeasible, or the fact that it would ever be deemed ethically acceptable.

Ethical questions aside, did you follow the link I provided?
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February 27, 2015, 09:50:34 PM
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I can't see it ever being feasible, let alone in two years. That's the type of time frame you slap on your proclamation so the press covers it.

Even if it is possible, it would be like Necromancy except without the magic, utterly fucked up medical science piecing peoples' body parts together onto one person for the sake of lengthening their lifespan and you also have the issue of the black market and what criminals would do with that kind of technology.

I don't think that kind of technology in particular should exist in the first place.

What about transplantation of hearts, kidneys, livers, etc? Do we not have the black market for organ transplantation right now?

Besides that, the real necromancy is bringing dead people back to life. Should we ban resuscitators?

I knew people would bring that up Tongue yeah but they aren't from living unwilling victims are they? Which is where my worry comes from,  besides, we have embryo's etc. for growing that shit now without killing off a healthy human being that's already fully grown.

I'm afraid that you have never heard about organ theft in Kosovo, i.e. kidnapping people, organ harvesting and then killing the victims. Now the same is allegedly happening in Ukraine, where organs of heavily wounded Ukrainian soldiers are said to be used for transplantation.

Actually, I don't see much difference between taking an organ from a not yet dead body, or the whole body. In fact, usually not just one organ is taken from one body.
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February 27, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
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Nasty.

Frankenstein for real. No thanks.
Yeah, I'm creeped out by this subject as well. Thoughts about severing spinal cords and reattaching heads to other bodies is like the "Brave New World" on steroids. If possible, we're no way near anything like this being legitimately possible nor legal to try. Then again we're talking elitists most likely the beneficiaries of such things - so all bets are off.
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February 27, 2015, 09:55:08 PM
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Ugh, it's not like I don't know about the black market organs, but that's the thing, if it goes past organs then we're going to see people getting their body parts randomly hacked off for transplanations, as Ramsay just wrote, that's the kind of thing I'm thinking about too.
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February 27, 2015, 09:56:16 PM
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I can't see it ever being feasible, let alone in two years. That's the type of time frame you slap on your proclamation so the press covers it.

What is not feasible? Finding a decent body if you have billions in your pockets? There had been similar surgeries on dogs (by the Soviets in 1950s) and on a monkey in 1970, the main obstacle being rejection by the body’s immune system (which is now mainly overcome).

Sewing a monky's head on another monkey body is not analogous to a human head transplant where you hope to have any quality of life afterwards. The science is what I find unfeasible, or the fact that it would ever be deemed ethically acceptable.

Ethical questions aside, did you follow the link I provided?

To the article? Yeah. I also noted the two neurosurgeons they quoted who said this wasn't feasible.

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February 27, 2015, 10:02:05 PM
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Ugh, it's not like I don't know about the black market organs, but that's the thing, if it goes past organs then we're going to see people getting their body parts randomly hacked off for transplanations, as Ramsay just wrote, that's the kind of thing I'm thinking about too.

Good morning, sir! Sewing back cut-off body parts is common now. Not from the original body as well. I remember a German farmer who had lost his both arms got "new" ones a few years ago. It was in the news.
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