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March 06, 2015, 01:40:01 AM |
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If you cannot sign a message for any reason then there is going to be a risk to the buyer that the account is hacked.
Sorry to butt into this thread, but can someone explain how signing the message from the account would verify that OP was the original owner? Is there anything stopping him from changing the bitcoin address on the account to his address, and then signing from that, if the account was hacked? (not accusing you of anything OP, just curious on how this proves the original account owner) It does not prove that the seller is the original owner, but it does generally prove that the account is not hacked, or at least not hacked since the address was posted. Say for example that an account posts a specific address on Jan 1 2015, and the post is never edited. It would be reasonable to believe that the owner of the account controlled the private keys to that address when the address was posted. Therefore as long as the post is not edited you can reasonably say that the account has not been hacked since Jan 1 if they can sign a message from that address. With a lot of time passing and a lot of posts being made since such post had been made, then it would be reasonable to say that the account was not hacked. It would be possible for the account to have been sold by then as the seller could include the private keys with the account when it is sold, but buying a sold account really is not a big deal (as long as it is not hacked)
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March 06, 2015, 01:44:24 AM |
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If you cannot sign a message for any reason then there is going to be a risk to the buyer that the account is hacked.
Sorry to butt into this thread, but can someone explain how signing the message from the account would verify that OP was the original owner? Is there anything stopping him from changing the bitcoin address on the account to his address, and then signing from that, if the account was hacked? (not accusing you of anything OP, just curious on how this proves the original account owner) It does not prove that the seller is the original owner, but it does generally prove that the account is not hacked, or at least not hacked since the address was posted. Say for example that an account posts a specific address on Jan 1 2015, and the post is never edited. It would be reasonable to believe that the owner of the account controlled the private keys to that address when the address was posted. Therefore as long as the post is not edited you can reasonably say that the account has not been hacked since Jan 1 if they can sign a message from that address. With a lot of time passing and a lot of posts being made since such post had been made, then it would be reasonable to say that the account was not hacked. It would be possible for the account to have been sold by then as the seller could include the private keys with the account when it is sold, but buying a sold account really is not a big deal (as long as it is not hacked) Ah ok that makes more sense then. I thought you guys were referring to the address on the user's profile. (ex. the address on record for my profile is 16MxMGxEvJeTdzajMS74QLHgi8NZD3opbm) Had me wondering because I figured there wasn't any way to see when that address had been set and such. Thanks for filling me in!
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March 06, 2015, 01:51:55 AM |
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If you cannot sign a message for any reason then there is going to be a risk to the buyer that the account is hacked.
Sorry to butt into this thread, but can someone explain how signing the message from the account would verify that OP was the original owner? Is there anything stopping him from changing the bitcoin address on the account to his address, and then signing from that, if the account was hacked? (not accusing you of anything OP, just curious on how this proves the original account owner) It does not prove that the seller is the original owner, but it does generally prove that the account is not hacked, or at least not hacked since the address was posted. Say for example that an account posts a specific address on Jan 1 2015, and the post is never edited. It would be reasonable to believe that the owner of the account controlled the private keys to that address when the address was posted. Therefore as long as the post is not edited you can reasonably say that the account has not been hacked since Jan 1 if they can sign a message from that address. With a lot of time passing and a lot of posts being made since such post had been made, then it would be reasonable to say that the account was not hacked. It would be possible for the account to have been sold by then as the seller could include the private keys with the account when it is sold, but buying a sold account really is not a big deal (as long as it is not hacked) Ah ok that makes more sense then. I thought you guys were referring to the address on the user's profile. (ex. the address on record for my profile is 16MxMGxEvJeTdzajMS74QLHgi8NZD3opbm) Had me wondering because I figured there wasn't any way to see when that address had been set and such. Thanks for filling me in! No you should never accept a signed message from an address filled in the BTC address field in your profile. Many people will offer that and that is not sufficient proof as you can change/modify that without any kind of public record.
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March 06, 2015, 02:22:29 AM |
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If you cannot sign a message for any reason then there is going to be a risk to the buyer that the account is hacked.
Sorry to butt into this thread, but can someone explain how signing the message from the account would verify that OP was the original owner? Is there anything stopping him from changing the bitcoin address on the account to his address, and then signing from that, if the account was hacked? (not accusing you of anything OP, just curious on how this proves the original account owner) It does not prove that the seller is the original owner, but it does generally prove that the account is not hacked, or at least not hacked since the address was posted. Say for example that an account posts a specific address on Jan 1 2015, and the post is never edited. It would be reasonable to believe that the owner of the account controlled the private keys to that address when the address was posted. Therefore as long as the post is not edited you can reasonably say that the account has not been hacked since Jan 1 if they can sign a message from that address. With a lot of time passing and a lot of posts being made since such post had been made, then it would be reasonable to say that the account was not hacked. It would be possible for the account to have been sold by then as the seller could include the private keys with the account when it is sold, but buying a sold account really is not a big deal (as long as it is not hacked) Ah ok that makes more sense then. I thought you guys were referring to the address on the user's profile. (ex. the address on record for my profile is 16MxMGxEvJeTdzajMS74QLHgi8NZD3opbm) Had me wondering because I figured there wasn't any way to see when that address had been set and such. Thanks for filling me in! No you should never accept a signed message from an address filled in the BTC address field in your profile. Many people will offer that and that is not sufficient proof as you can change/modify that without any kind of public record. then what IF the case is account sold? if the new owner cant verify the old address linked to that account meaning the account is hacked?
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March 06, 2015, 02:25:02 AM |
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If you cannot sign a message for any reason then there is going to be a risk to the buyer that the account is hacked.
Sorry to butt into this thread, but can someone explain how signing the message from the account would verify that OP was the original owner? Is there anything stopping him from changing the bitcoin address on the account to his address, and then signing from that, if the account was hacked? (not accusing you of anything OP, just curious on how this proves the original account owner) It does not prove that the seller is the original owner, but it does generally prove that the account is not hacked, or at least not hacked since the address was posted. Say for example that an account posts a specific address on Jan 1 2015, and the post is never edited. It would be reasonable to believe that the owner of the account controlled the private keys to that address when the address was posted. Therefore as long as the post is not edited you can reasonably say that the account has not been hacked since Jan 1 if they can sign a message from that address. With a lot of time passing and a lot of posts being made since such post had been made, then it would be reasonable to say that the account was not hacked. It would be possible for the account to have been sold by then as the seller could include the private keys with the account when it is sold, but buying a sold account really is not a big deal (as long as it is not hacked) Ah ok that makes more sense then. I thought you guys were referring to the address on the user's profile. (ex. the address on record for my profile is 16MxMGxEvJeTdzajMS74QLHgi8NZD3opbm) Had me wondering because I figured there wasn't any way to see when that address had been set and such. Thanks for filling me in! No you should never accept a signed message from an address filled in the BTC address field in your profile. Many people will offer that and that is not sufficient proof as you can change/modify that without any kind of public record. then what IF the case is account sold? if the new owner cant verify the old address linked to that account meaning the account is hacked? The new owner can provide the previously provided signed message along with a second signed message confirming ownership of the account that was used to purchase the account, or could provide a signed message from a more recent address.
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March 06, 2015, 02:48:20 AM |
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If you can prove that isn't hacked by signing a messege and using any trusted escrow to hold the account before Ill pay you my offer will be 0.17. Let me know if accept by here. Won't talk about this over PM. Thanks.
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March 06, 2015, 04:46:28 AM |
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If you can prove that isn't hacked by signing a messege and using any trusted escrow to hold the account before Ill pay you my offer will be 0.17. Let me know if accept by here. Won't talk about this over PM. Thanks.
Accept your offer. Devthedev escrow ? And I should sign in address that posted in my account right ?
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March 06, 2015, 04:55:11 AM |
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is the account sold or u r still selling it.if yes then pm me
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March 06, 2015, 04:55:39 AM |
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If you can prove that isn't hacked by signing a messege and using any trusted escrow to hold the account before Ill pay you my offer will be 0.17. Let me know if accept by here. Won't talk about this over PM. Thanks.
Accept your offer. Devthedev escrow ? And I should sign in address that posted in my account right ? You should sign a message with an address that was posted several months ago if possible. The farther in the past the address was posted the better. The address in the profile does not have any permanent association with the account and should mean nothing when it comes to proving ownership
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March 06, 2015, 05:16:36 AM |
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is the account sold or u r still selling it.if yes then pm me
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March 06, 2015, 03:22:09 PM |
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If you can prove that isn't hacked by signing a messege and using any trusted escrow to hold the account before Ill pay you my offer will be 0.17. Let me know if accept by here. Won't talk about this over PM. Thanks.
Sent you PM and posted in this thread Hope you reply soon
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March 07, 2015, 08:55:42 AM |
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March 07, 2015, 03:16:19 PM |
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March 07, 2015, 10:38:40 PM |
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It has light green trust?
What is the trust score?
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March 08, 2015, 04:20:51 AM |
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It has light green trust?
What is the trust score?
Posted on previous page u can check
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March 08, 2015, 04:23:15 AM |
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It has light green trust?
What is the trust score?
Posted on previous page u can check You didn't post the trust score. You only said light green trust.
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March 08, 2015, 04:26:33 AM |
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It has light green trust?
What is the trust score?
Posted on previous page u can check You didn't post the trust score. You only said light green trust. @Berau , i see you posting on most of the auction/selling , all over the market place . You enquired about my BCT acount sale and thus i have PM'ed you , though you are online but you don't seem to be replying . Instead you're spamming everywhere , just for you info , be careful with spamming , people are getting Banned. ~Regards Sky Also , The account he is selling doesn't have Green trust on DefaultTrust Depth 2 but on 4 Just letting you guys know , to avoid the hassle i went through
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March 08, 2015, 04:56:09 AM |
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It has light green trust?
What is the trust score?
Posted on previous page u can check You didn't post the trust score. You only said light green trust. @Berau , i see you posting on most of the auction/selling , all over the market place . You enquired about my BCT acount sale and thus i have PM'ed you , though you are online but you don't seem to be replying . Instead you're spamming everywhere , just for you info , be careful with spamming , people are getting Banned. ~Regards Sky Also , The account he is selling doesn't have Green trust on DefaultTrust Depth 2 but on 4 Just letting you guys know , to avoid the hassle i went through I don't think I'm spamming. I found a seller already. Also about the pm, I was just on mobile and it's hard to type on it. Will reply to you after I get home.
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March 08, 2015, 06:10:26 AM |
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I would like to add that according to a PM that I received from the OP that the trust is only positive when the trust depth is set to '4', however when it is set to '2' (the default) the trust rating is 0/0/0/0
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