no response from pbmining.com about my transfer

[mutusui]

I have bought a contract from pbmining.com, and had transfered the amount, but there is no contract shown and no response from the pbmining.com till now.

This is my transfer  :

Transactions Summary of your recent transactions View  Filter
To / From   Date   Amount   
1BaconjAtmrT663X4cwP2zvC6kez2pRAWk
 2014-10-23 11:53:12   -0.09163283 BTC   

And I have lost my BTC and nobody takes response of it.

Any body had the same problem ?

Any solution ?

Thanks.


Wong Qing.




Below is my email to pbmining.com :



why my contract still not active ?
Inbox
   x
wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com>
   
10/26/14
      
to admin
Dear Sir,

I had transfered the amount yesterday, but the contract is still not actve ?

Regards,

Customer #: 33550
Username: MIAMELL
Join Date: 22-10-2014
Last Login: 22-10-2014
Fullname: MELLISA MIA
E-Mail: mutusui@gmail.com

Transactions Summary of your recent transactions View  Filter
To / From   Date   Amount   
1BaconjAtmrT663X4cwP2zvC6kez2pRAWk
 2014-10-23 11:53:12   -0.09163283 BTC
wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com>
   
11/27/14
      
to admin

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 12:42 AM
Subject: why my contract still not active ?
To: admin@pbmining.com


Dear Sir,

I had transfered the amount yesterday, but the contract is still not actve ?

Regards,

Customer #: 33550
Username: MIAMELL
Join Date: 22-10-2014
Last Login: 22-10-2014
Fullname: MELLISA MIA
E-Mail: mutusui@gmail.com

Transactions Summary of your recent transactions View  Filter
To / From   Date   Amount   
1BaconjAtmrT663X4cwP2zvC6kez2pRAWk
 2014-10-23 11:53:12   -0.09163283 BTC   


wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com>
   
11/27/14
      
to admin
wong qing      11/27/14
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com> D...
wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com>
   
12/5/14
      
to admin
where is my money goes ? i didn't see any contract purchased with my money.
PBMining Admin <admin@pbmining.com>
   
12/6/14
      
to me
Transaction ID?


On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 9:25 AM, wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com> wrote:

    where is my money goes ? i didn't see any contract purchased with my money.


    On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 12:42 AM, wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com> wrote:

        Dear Sir,

        I had transfered the amount yesterday, but the contract is still not actve ?

        Regards,

        Customer #: 33550
        Username: MIAMELL
        Join Date: 22-10-2014
        Last Login: 22-10-2014
        Fullname: MELLISA MIA
        E-Mail: mutusui@gmail.com

        Transactions Summary of your recent transactions View  Filter
        To / From   Date   Amount   
        1BaconjAtmrT663X4cwP2zvC6kez2pRAWk
         2014-10-23 11:53:12   -0.09163283 BTC   



wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com>
   
Attachments12/7/14
      
to PBMining

    1BaconBrq3GvzKjTaGb3ba87tQAFKLjek5

   
2014-09-05 13:24:33
   
$ -27.51


I copy paste the transaction, please check.
Attachments area
Preview attachment miamell.htm
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wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com>
   
12/12/14
      
to PBMining
where can I look for the Transaction ID ?

Can you please check my date transfer
wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com>
   
12/12/14
      
to PBMining
omg........ where is your customer service ?
wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com>
   
12/13/14
      
to PBMining
Please send my money back to :

18hvgrsnaeWvY9JYaAry7ZL223TLPsMBBi

I have wait 3 months that the contracts not active.
wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com>
   
10:59 PM (18 minutes ago)
      
to PBMining
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: wong qing <mutusui@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 12:42 AM
Subject: why my contract still not active ?
To: admin@pbmining.com


Dear Sir,

I had transfered the amount yesterday, but the contract is still not actve ?

Regards,

Customer #: 33550
Username: MIAMELL
Join Date: 22-10-2014
Last Login: 22-10-2014
Fullname: MELLISA MIA
E-Mail: mutusui@gmail.com

Transactions Summary of your recent transactions View  Filter
To / From   Date   Amount   
1BaconjAtmrT663X4cwP2zvC6kez2pRAWk
 2014-10-23 11:53:12   -0.09163283 BTC   

[BillyBobZorton]

I dont know about this particular site, but with btc.. always consider that every site can be a potential scam.

[Brewins]

As far I know pbmining is closed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=887871.0

And most people say that they were a ponzi, so I doubt you will get your money back

[ajareselde]

Seams like u should of poke around before investing with them, they are not active here for quite some time.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=195208  - their main account , note the trust
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418183.0  - a lot of unhappy customers here, worth reading through

cheers buddy, and sorry for your loss

[inBitweTrust]

Either don't mine or buy ASIC's directly. Never buy cloud mining contracts as most if not all are some degree of a ponzi operation(fractional reserve mining).

[bill gator]

Said so i would recommend all "investors" to work on this with extremely caution

[no141]

The problem was, I don't think you followed the directions for payment. Your number was 33550, and 4 digits of that number should have been in the payment as the last four digits. That's how the payments were tracked. So it was treated as free money to them. Or your payment of 0.09163283 could have gone to an account with 3283 as the last four.

Do you have the actual transaction ID that shows you made them a payment ending in 3550? If so, then they really did you wrong.

They are only currently paying out dust, and have not been offering any "hashing power" for sale for a long time.

[Hanslo]

Looks the PB Mining server now is taken down.

[TheGrapist]

Looks the PB Mining server now is taken down.

they are already dead for months now

[no141]

Still not dead, still paying dust:


For 4 contracts, the current amount pending, and the last amount paid with when it was paid.

0.00000907     0.00005345 21-03-2015 09:56:01
0.00001723     0.00002488 04-04-2015 14:06:01
0.00000249     0.00000622 12-04-2015 19:16:01
0.00004032     0.00006298 14-03-2015 11:49:01

[Mehek]

lol...that was a scam site.it ran with 1000btc some years back and now its back again to loot owr coins...I will just advice stay away from this scam withdrawl whatever you have invested

[crazyivan]

Still not dead, still paying dust:


For 4 contracts, the current amount pending, and the last amount paid with when it was paid.

0.00000907     0.00005345 21-03-2015 09:56:01
0.00001723     0.00002488 04-04-2015 14:06:01
0.00000249     0.00000622 12-04-2015 19:16:01
0.00004032     0.00006298 14-03-2015 11:49:01

How often do they send this dust cause at this rate it seems it would take years to get your refund back?

[Hanslo]

Still not dead, still paying dust:


For 4 contracts, the current amount pending, and the last amount paid with when it was paid.

0.00000907     0.00005345 21-03-2015 09:56:01
0.00001723     0.00002488 04-04-2015 14:06:01
0.00000249     0.00000622 12-04-2015 19:16:01
0.00004032     0.00006298 14-03-2015 11:49:01

Oh yes, it's realy dead now, so no more dust to us. PB Mining server is gone!

[marcotheminer]

Either don't mine or buy ASIC's directly. Never buy cloud mining contracts as most if not all are some degree of a ponzi operation(fractional reserve mining).

Not all CloudMining sites are ponzis (unfortunately, that's become a common misconception due to a number of illegitimate 'mining' services)

A legitimate CloudMining service is https://BIT-X.com, the GH/s is provided by the known ASIC manufacturer BitFury. You can trade GH/s with any supported currency (BTC, LTC, USD, EUR, GBP) all while they mine for you.

Any questions let me know.

Hashnest is another supposedly legitimate provider, I am yet to look into their service though.

[inBitweTrust]

Either don't mine or buy ASIC's directly. Never buy cloud mining contracts as most if not all are some degree of a ponzi operation(fractional reserve mining).

Not all CloudMining sites are ponzis (unfortunately, that's become a common misconception due to a number of illegitimate 'mining' services)

A legitimate CloudMining service is https://BIT-X.com, the GH/s is provided by the known ASIC manufacturer BitFury. You can trade GH/s with any supported currency (BTC, LTC, USD, EUR, GBP) all while they mine for you.

Any questions let me know.

Hashnest is another supposedly legitimate provider, I am yet to look into their service though.

I have little doubt that BIT-X has purchased equipment, is mining , and has a partnership with bitfury.The question is can they prove they aren't fractional reserve mining (which is a form of a ponzi)?

Look into these 2 concerns with Bit-x and let me know if you or they have answers to them:

1) No public mining address / no user selectable pool.
A cloud mining company that wont let you direct the hashrate to your pool of choosing and cant prove its actually mining bitcoins itself, is very likely a scam. There is no reason to hide mining address or not sign blocks. None.

4) Open ended IPO / fractional reverse mining risk
Unless the cloud mining is operated by the asic vendor himself, you can not sell an unlimited amount of hashrate. Hardware takes (usually a long) time to order, arrive and deploy. Any company that doesnt limit sales or make public how much hashrate they sold vs what they have (provably) deployed should be considered  suspicious.

[Hanslo]

Either don't mine or buy ASIC's directly. Never buy cloud mining contracts as most if not all are some degree of a ponzi operation(fractional reserve mining).

Not all CloudMining sites are ponzis (unfortunately, that's become a common misconception due to a number of illegitimate 'mining' services)

A legitimate CloudMining service is https://BIT-X.com, the GH/s is provided by the known ASIC manufacturer BitFury. You can trade GH/s with any supported currency (BTC, LTC, USD, EUR, GBP) all while they mine for you.

Any questions let me know.

Hashnest is another supposedly legitimate provider, I am yet to look into their service though.

I have little doubt that BIT-X has purchased equipment, is mining , and has a partnership with bitfury.The question is can they prove they aren't fractional reserve mining (which is a form of a ponzi)?

Look into these 2 concerns with Bit-x and let me know if you or they have answers to them:

1) No public mining address / no user selectable pool.
A cloud mining company that wont let you direct the hashrate to your pool of choosing and cant prove its actually mining bitcoins itself, is very likely a scam. There is no reason to hide mining address or not sign blocks. None.

4) Open ended IPO / fractional reverse mining risk
Unless the cloud mining is operated by the asic vendor himself, you can not sell an unlimited amount of hashrate. Hardware takes (usually a long) time to order, arrive and deploy. Any company that doesnt limit sales or make public how much hashrate they sold vs what they have (provably) deployed should be considered  suspicious.

Registered office: No. 1 Orchid Garden Street, Belmopan, Belize, C.A.

[inBitweTrust]

Registered office: No. 1 Orchid Garden Street, Belmopan, Belize, C.A.

Non Sequitur

The question is can they reliably prove they aren't fractional reserve mining (which is a form of a ponzi)?

If this cannot be demonstrated than you should avoid them like the plague. It is bad enough that cloud mining further centralizes PoW and adds further counterparty risk in our decentralized project... let alone with dealing with all the scams.

[no141]

Still not dead, still paying dust:


For 4 contracts, the current amount pending, and the last amount paid with when it was paid.

0.00000907     0.00005345 21-03-2015 09:56:01
0.00001723     0.00002488 04-04-2015 14:06:01
0.00000249     0.00000622 12-04-2015 19:16:01
0.00004032     0.00006298 14-03-2015 11:49:01

Oh yes, it's realy dead now, so no more dust to us. PB Mining server is gone!

I keep checking if the site is alive, and it is each time. I suspect on the 19th, that fourth contract will pay it's dust. Would anyone care to do a calculation of their total possible payout, based on current earnings, from now until their contract expires?

[niktitan132]

Still not dead, still paying dust:


For 4 contracts, the current amount pending, and the last amount paid with when it was paid.

0.00000907     0.00005345 21-03-2015 09:56:01
0.00001723     0.00002488 04-04-2015 14:06:01
0.00000249     0.00000622 12-04-2015 19:16:01
0.00004032     0.00006298 14-03-2015 11:49:01

Oh yes, it's realy dead now, so no more dust to us. PB Mining server is gone!

I keep checking if the site is alive, and it is each time. I suspect on the 19th, that fourth contract will pay it's dust. Would anyone care to do a calculation of their total possible payout, based on current earnings, from now until their contract expires?

Seems like today PBmining.com website is down.Calculating the possible payout is just waste of time, let's just call it dust amount of BTC.

[Mehek]

It already become scam site & they trying refund their customer money, but looks like refunds aren't going well
I'm sure you won't get your bitcoin back

You better search real cloud mining, mine by yourself or don't mine

you are right they should not mine when they are getting dust..