BETwitter - Bet & Win Bitcoins - Data source is Twitter - Promo coins

[btcfaucet]

Introducting BETwitter

TL;DR you can bet on tweets, words, numbers.
The data source is the constant flow of tweets in real time.
Games are flexible.


Check this video first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um4FZP78DfQ

Let the screenshots explain!

There is a summary on games played and payouts:


Auto-withdrawal so your wallet is emptied to an external address:


Some of the upcoming games still open for bets:


Currently three types of games are supported:


Need ideas for original game submits? Check the word stats:


What is going on in the world right now:


Queen beats King:


Supernatural vs Game of Thrones:


Estimate games - players estimate a number:


Norning vs Night:


Celebrity tweets:



Things to know

• This is a personal and experimental project
• The tweet logs can be funny, especially when the game words are provocative
• We had lots of fun while beta testing it for over a week
• There is a 25% affiliate share from the commission (just add ?r=username to URLs)
• We will make an attempt to post bets on games as needed to make sure they play - we're pretty much a faucet for now!
• Signup is very simple - apart from username and password, everything else is optional
• Please do supply a BTC address for automatic withdrawals when you sign up
• The celebrities list is subjective, suggestions are welcome (well known people with funny and original tweets)
• The help / FAQ pages are very slim and need some boosting - questions are welcome

Come and help to grow the pot why don't you?
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[Monetizer]

This is a cool idea bit it seems a little confusing to start with. I can nust bet on what is going on with twitter 

[btcfaucet]

This is a cool idea bit it seems a little confusing to start with. I can nust bet on what is going on with twitter 

Sometimes it's just a simple choice between 'true' and 'false' - it doesn't have to be that confusing.
Check out the list of games.

[Havelivi]

This is a cool idea bit it seems a little confusing to start with. I can nust bet on what is going on with twitter 

Sometimes it's just a simple choice between 'true' and 'false' - it doesn't have to be that confusing.
Check out the list of games.

any giveaway promotion for pre launch to bct members to test it for free.

[btcfaucet]

I did give ~3 BTC to the ~10 beta test members before the BTCTalk launch. I guess I could give a few more coins out to the first few users with 200+ posts...

How'bout this? I'll give the first 10 people interested 0.1 BTC each (requirement: genuine interest, 200+ posts) - time limited offer.

Their withdrawals will be disabled until they msg me to check their total wager and if they've spent the coins on games, I'll re-enable withdrawals and they can keep any payouts.

[thebitcoinquiz.com]

Just saw one of the game. It was like which one will have more tweeters? Music or Video.
So the word which will get more tweets by people will win? How do you count the tweets? Cant this be manipulated?

[Havelivi]

I did give ~3 BTC to the ~10 beta test members before the BTCTalk launch. I guess I could give a few more coins out to the first few users with 200+ posts...

How'bout this? I'll give the first 10 people interested 0.1 BTC each (requirement: genuine interest, 200+ posts) - time limited offer.

Their withdrawals will be disabled until they msg me to check their total wager and if they've spent the coins on games, I'll re-enable withdrawals and they can keep any payouts.

i am interested to take a try to test this game, how much wagered required to take withdraw?

[Fraxinus]

I'd like to give this game a try

[btcfaucet]

Just saw one of the game. It was like which one will have more tweeters? Music or Video.
So the word which will get more tweets by people will win? How do you count the tweets? Cant this be manipulated?

Not the word with the most tweets, but the word with the most tweeters. Clearly one account could post the same thing a lot of times before being rate limited or banned, so most games use the number of unique tweeters rather than tweets.

Obviously this can be manipulated, how easy it is depends on the game. Anything 'manipulating' the results will be in the public tweet logs though, so silent manipulation is not possible.

[btcfaucet]

i am interested to take a try to test this game, how much wagered required to take withdraw?

If I give you 0.1 BTC to play with, then 0.1 BTC :-)

Let's say to take part in the game, post "I would like the 0.1 BTC for beta testing, my username is [XYZ]". I'll disable withdrawals & send you the coins on BETWitter. When you have wagered at least 0.1 BTC in total (and don't put all on one game) I'll lift the withdrawals.


OFFER NO LONGER ACTIVE / 1.1 BTC given out

[thebitcoinquiz.com]

Just saw one of the game. It was like which one will have more tweeters? Music or Video.
So the word which will get more tweets by people will win? How do you count the tweets? Cant this be manipulated?

Not the word with the most tweets, but the word with the most tweeters. Clearly one account could post the same thing a lot of times before being rate limited or banned, so most games use the number of unique tweeters rather than tweets.

Obviously this can be manipulated, how easy it is depends on the game. Anything 'manipulating' the results will be in the public tweet logs though, so silent manipulation is not possible.

So I can keep on making accounts and keep on tweeting? I know manipulating the data for words like music and video would be very difficult cause they have a lot of tweeters, but if there is competition between words which are used less then the data can be manipulated.

[thebitcoinquiz.com]

i am interested to take a try to test this game, how much wagered required to take withdraw?

If I give you 0.1 BTC to play with, then 0.1 BTC :-)

Let's say to take part in the game, post "I would like the 0.1 BTC for beta testing, my username is [XYZ]". I'll disable withdrawals & send you the coins on BETWitter. When you have wagered at least 0.1 BTC in total (and don't put all on one game) I'll lift the withdrawals.

I would also like 0.1BTC for Beta Testing.
My username is "lalwa" .
Is there something else that I need to provide?

[btcfaucet]

I know manipulating the data for words like music and video would be very difficult cause they have a lot of tweeters, but if there is competition between words which are used less then the data can be manipulated.

Yes, this is why for low frequency words it is customary to use 10 hours of sampling, for words like 'love' even 10-30 minutes will do just fine.

[btcfaucet]

I would also like 0.1BTC for Beta Testing.
My username is "lalwa" .
Is there something else that I need to provide?

No, I've just sent 0.1 BTC to your account. From now on I will be enforcing the 200 post minimum threshold though

[twister]

Very unique idea I must say. Don't know how it works and how will it go though but I wanna try.

I would like the 0.1 BTC for beta testing, my username is twister

[thebitcoinquiz.com]

I would also like 0.1BTC for Beta Testing.
My username is "lalwa" .
Is there something else that I need to provide?

No, I've just sent 0.1 BTC to your account. From now on I will be enforcing the 200 post minimum threshold though

Got the 0.1BTC.

[btcfaucet]

Very unique idea I must say. Don't know how it works and how will it go though but I wanna try.
I would like the 0.1 BTC for beta testing, my username is twister

0.1 BTC sent.

[Fraxinus]

username-alesa

[twister]

Very unique idea I must say. Don't know how it works and how will it go though but I wanna try.
I would like the 0.1 BTC for beta testing, my username is twister

0.1 BTC sent.

Got`em. So I need to not put it all on one game and wager 0.1 before I am allowed to take out anything, right?

[btcfaucet]

username-alesa

0.1 BTC sent.

[btcfaucet]

Got`em. So I need to not put it all on one game and wager 0.1 before I am allowed to take out anything, right?

No, just the opposite. You're not supposed to spend it all on one thing, that would look like you just want the coins and not to play

[thebitcoinquiz.com]

Got`em. So I need to not put it all on one game and wager 0.1 before I am allowed to take out anything, right?

No, just the opposite. You're not supposed to spend it all on one thing, that would look like you just want the coins and not to play

there should be an option to cancel the bet before the event starts? Shouldn't it be there?

[twister]

Got`em. So I need to not put it all on one game and wager 0.1 before I am allowed to take out anything, right?

No, just the opposite. You're not supposed to spend it all on one thing, that would look like you just want the coins and not to play

That's what I said.

[btcfaucet]

there should be an option to cancel the bet before the event starts? Shouldn't it be there?

Bets are final. I prefer it that way to be honest.

[btcfaucet]

That's what I said.

Ah so! Then just the opposite of the opposite :-)

[btcfaucet]

I try to post new games every day, but it's hard to come up with ideas where people are likely to have at least two different tweets. Please keep checking https://betwitter.com/games and if you see any games without a 'you bet' label, do place a bet. Cheers!

[twister]

That's what I said.

Ah so! Then just the opposite of the opposite :-)

Lol you make me confuzzeled. I placed the 10 bets already, wish me luck.
And where can I see my stats to find out how much have I wagered?

[btcfaucet]

username: havelivi

0.1 BTC sent

[btcfaucet]

Lol you make me confuzzeled. I placed the 10 bets already, wish me luck.

Great. Don't forget though, there will be more games to bet on every day. If you think of something that you think are viable, feel free to submit.

And where can I see my stats to find out how much have I wagered?

Sure: https://betwitter.com/account - this has a nice summary.

[trafficolaa]

username: trafficolaa

it sounds great to take free try with 0.1

[Grumpster]

Username: Grumpy

Looking forward to testing the site & seeing if I can win something also.

All the best

[btcfaucet]

username: trafficolaa

it sounds great to take free try with 0.1

You got it. 0.1 BTC.

[btcfaucet]

Username: Grumpy
Looking forward to testing the site & seeing if I can win something also.
All the best

Sorry, as mentioned before I hold myself to the minimum 200 posts rule :-( Thanks for understanding. Keep in mind plenty of people are playing with my coins, so there's bound to be some games to bet on where you can win with a high probability - and then it's free coins all the same.

[Havelivi]

username: havelivi

0.1 BTC sent

thanks for great giveaway, i received free balance and put some bet there,
let's see how it goes hope i win some big amount there  

[amiryaqot]

username: amiryaqot

i would like to take test drive, if that promo still available?
thanks for nice campaign.

[btcfaucet]

username: amiryaqot

i would like to take test drive, if that promo still available?
thanks for nice campaign.

Sure. You've got it.

[btcfaucet]

One more thing. Before the site launched with the beta testers, I did a few test runs with words just to get samples.
This is an old HTML file (it will say you're not logged in but it's just an HTML page, ignore it).

https://betwitter.com/wordsample.html

The new version is of course:

https://betwitter.com/words

[goose20]

Username: zippy1

I will give it some time with the free 0.1 btc.

Cheers

[btcfaucet]

Username: zippy1
I will give it some time with the free 0.1 btc.

There you go.

[crytoboost]

username : crytoboost

hope i enter at time, i too would like to take this offer.

[goose20]

Username: zippy1
I will give it some time with the free 0.1 btc.

There you go.

That was quick. Thanks for that.

Q. Did you get any feedback on the name "BETWitter" in your testing?

[twister]

Lol you make me confuzzeled. I placed the 10 bets already, wish me luck.

Great. Don't forget though, there will be more games to bet on every day. If you think of something that you think are viable, feel free to submit.

And where can I see my stats to find out how much have I wagered?

Sure: https://betwitter.com/account - this has a nice summary.

Yeah, not betting anymore today, just betted on the games I had some idea about. Let's see what happens, I'll play more after the results of these bets and will submit if I think of something original. Thanks

[pozmu]

I would like the 0.1 BTC for beta testing, my username is pozmu

Your time is valuable. Don't waste it on registration!

Well, if you really want to simplify the registration process, why not integrate it with twitter and make possible to login with twitter login & password?

[btcfaucet]

Q. Did you get any feedback on the name "BETWitter" in your testing?

Small typo in the thread name, "w" is supposed to be lower case.

A: No, no feedback on the name. I'm more interested in the game itself rather than the name. I've had about a week and a half of beta testing, now I'd like to see how this works with a bit more players so I'm slowly inviting more and more people, even if with my own coins as it spontaneously has been decided apparently

[btcfaucet]

Well, if you really want to simplify the registration process, why not integrate it with twitter and make possible to login with twitter login & password?

That did come up, but I simply don't like the idea of a third party deciding logins. A user/pass combo is simple enough I think. Add a BTC payout address and your coins don't get stuck even if you lose your account.

[btcfaucet]

username : crytoboost
hope i enter at time, i too would like to take this offer.

Sorry, min post 200 Still plenty of winning opportunities on the games.

[Mig-23]

why only Btc?
no dogecoin and litecoin
i think doge and Ltc had a lot of community

[goose20]

Q. Did you get any feedback on the name "BETWitter" in your testing?

Small typo in the thread name, "w" is supposed to be lower case.

A: No, no feedback on the name. I'm more interested in the game itself rather than the name. I've had about a week and a half of beta testing, now I'd like to see how this works with a bit more players so I'm slowly inviting more and more people, even if with my own coins as it spontaneously has been decided apparently

That's  understandable - afterall it is going to be the fun factor of the games rather than site name that will make or break it. And it might just be me (because i have a toddler) but my mind keeps jumping to bed wetter when it reads BETwitter.

Anyways, wishing you the best with this.  In time i may submit sporting games (Mayweather  v Pacquiao,  Federer  v Djokovic etc etc).

[kusumadewi]

username : crytoboost
hope i enter at time, i too would like to take this offer.

Sorry, min post 200 Still plenty of winning opportunities on the games.

min post 200? it mean i'm can participate with this giveaway
my username kusumadewi

[thebitcoinquiz.com]

Here in this pic-

What decided the winner? Is it the "by xxx" that makes the word win?

[btcfaucet]

Anyways, wishing you the best with this.  In time i may submit sporting games (Mayweather  v Pacquiao,  Federer  v Djokovic etc etc).

You mean like this?
https://betwitter.com/game/143/selection/tennis-players

[btcfaucet]

What decided the winner? Is it the "by xxx" that makes the word win?

If the game's description / formula suggested whatever word with the most tweeters wins, then yes.

[crytoboost]

username : crytoboost
hope i enter at time, i too would like to take this offer.

Sorry, min post 200 Still plenty of winning opportunities on the games.

i have 282 posts included this, minimum eligibility is 200 posts?
what is mean of 200 posts for you?

[goose20]

Anyways, wishing you the best with this.  In time i may submit sporting games (Mayweather  v Pacquiao,  Federer  v Djokovic etc etc).

You mean like this?
https://betwitter.com/game/143/selection/tennis-players

Cool. Exactly. So many game options - didn't  see it.
You definitely have games to cover almost every interest. There's a game for everybody.

[kusumadewi]

username : crytoboost
hope i enter at time, i too would like to take this offer.

Sorry, min post 200 Still plenty of winning opportunities on the games.

i have 282 posts included this, minimum eligibility is 200 posts?
what is mean of 200 posts for you?

or maybe he mean 200 activity not 200 posts

[boopy265420]

Username : boopyboopy

if is not too late I am interested to check.Thanks.

[crytoboost]

I did give ~3 BTC to the ~10 beta test members before the BTCTalk launch. I guess I could give a few more coins out to the first few users with 200+ posts...

How'bout this? I'll give the first 10 people interested 0.1 BTC each (requirement: genuine interest, 200+ posts) - time limited offer.

Their withdrawals will be disabled until they msg me to check their total wager and if they've spent the coins on games, I'll re-enable withdrawals and they can keep any payouts.

is that typo mistake 200+ posts or 200+ activity what required in real to qualify avail this promo?

[newcripto]

newcripto

thanks nice giveaway campaign.

[Nobitcoin]

Nice giveaway.

Username : Nobitcoin

Thanks

[buddu]

Username : buddu
wanna test your site .

[btcfaucet]

i have 282 posts included this, minimum eligibility is 200 posts?

Yeah you guys were right, I was looking at activity. But when you're right, you're right. So 0.1 BTC went your guise' way.

(newcripto + crytoboost)

[JimClone]

Hope I'm not late!  Name : JimClone

Thanks

[btcfaucet]

Nice giveaway.
Username : Nobitcoin

There you go, with the last 0.1 in this giveaway

Enjoy!

[electronicfactura]

electronicfact

Hey am I eligible for this giveaway ?

[boopy265420]

Username : Boopyboopy

if is not too late I am interested to check.Thanks.

I didnt receive yet .

Boopyboopy

[pozmu]

i have 282 posts included this, minimum eligibility is 200 posts?

Yeah you guys were right, I was looking at activity. But when you're right, you're right. So 0.1 BTC went your guise' way.

(newcripto + crytoboost)

Hey, what about me, I posted my claim before these guys 
If you simply don't like me, then it's ok 

[amiryaqot]

thanks for nice giveaway, i received my bonus there and made bet on a word,
how much wagered required to active withdraw?

[btcfaucet]

Hey, what about me, I posted my claim before these guys 
If you simply don't like me, then it's ok 

Sorry, it was hard to follow the thread by the end.

You got an extra 0.1. So total 1.1 BTC given out. Play some games

[btcfaucet]

thanks for nice giveaway, i received my bonus there and made bet on a word,
how much wagered required to active withdraw?

0.1 So be the whole thing. It's hard to lose it all.

[boopy265420]

I applied too before those guys what about me ?

[Slark]

Hey, what about me, I posted my claim before these guys 
If you simply don't like me, then it's ok 

Sorry, it was hard to follow the thread by the end.

You got an extra 0.1. So total 1.1 BTC given out. Play some games

Is this promotion already over, am I too late to claim this? Are you planning on continue similar giveaways in the future?

[achow101]

I would like to test
username : Bopeepbopeep

Thanks 

[btcfaucet]

Everyone's welcome to test but I've run out of coins. Sorry Will still bet on this and that, so that's more free BTC to win.

[pozmu]

Sorry, it was hard to follow the thread by the end.

You got an extra 0.1. So total 1.1 BTC given out. Play some games

Thank you, received, gonna make some bets, wish me good luck 

[btcfaucet]

Thank you, received, gonna make some bets, wish me good luck 

Good luck & good skill! :-)

One of the beta testers who got 0.2 BTC ended up with 0.3+, with games in progress...

[btcfaucet]

I notice that these 3 users:

- newcripto
- cryptoboost
- amiryaqot

Against the specific request not to blow it all on one game, they put it all on the first game, on opposing sides ;-)

https://betwitter.com/game/103/selection/followers-of-jesus-and-allah/bets

I suspect it's for a quick withdrawal But I'm also happy to give you guys a second chance. So for these 3 users, the minimum wager required before enabling withdrawals is 0.2 BTC (it's still 0.1 BTC to the other beta testers).

[newcripto]

How is this opposite when all have different bets ? Everyone will surely go after immediate available game to place bet on . You didnt say before all the players can't place bet immediately .

[thebitcoinquiz.com]

I had to struggle to find out on which word I had put a bet on(in Jesus cs Allah ) game. It would be nice if you can show the word on which we have put a bet(it can be marked by some different color or something like that).

[Nobitcoin]

Nice giveaway.
Username : Nobitcoin

There you go, with the last 0.1 in this giveaway

Enjoy!

Thanks for the 0.1 made my bets already. Original idea for a game waiting for the results.

[Havelivi]

hello admin, is there any problem to put 0.10 as bet on your site
what is mean of that players can't bet opposite him?
or all players have to bet on a same words?
what method for draw result there?

[kusumadewi]

username : crytoboost
hope i enter at time, i too would like to take this offer.

Sorry, min post 200 Still plenty of winning opportunities on the games.

min post 200? it mean i'm can participate with this giveaway
my username kusumadewi

Will i get the another 0.1 to try your site ?

[btcfaucet]

How is this opposite when all have different bets ? Everyone will surely go after immediate available game to place bet on . You didnt say before all the players can't place bet immediately .

I did. See:

When you have wagered at least 0.1 BTC in total (and don't put all on one game) I'll lift the withdrawals.

^^^^^
That's what I said when I agreed to giving out free coins. Someone even asked me to confirm it and the 'opposites of opposites' thing could have been confusing but my initial (and I think pretty common sense) request not to bet it all on one game was hard to misunderstand.

If you had put a double bet on every game, I wouldn't have minded so much as putting it all on one game.

[newcripto]

How is this opposite when all have different bets ? Everyone will surely go after immediate available game to place bet on . You didnt say before all the players can't place bet immediately .

I did. See:

When you have wagered at least 0.1 BTC in total (and don't put all on one game) I'll lift the withdrawals.

^^^^^
That's what I said when I agreed to giving out free coins. Someone even asked me to confirm it and the 'opposites of opposites' thing could have been confusing but my initial (and I think pretty common sense) request not to bet it all on one game was hard to misunderstand.

If you had put a double bet on every game, I wouldn't have minded so much as putting it all on one game.

Sorry I didnt understand well. So I can't put all the amount on one game this is the issue. But How can i find the wager in final ?

[amiryaqot]

admin i don't understand why 0.20BTC wagered for me? i just won there now balance is 0.18BTC
so how can i check my wagered there, and what is minimum withdraw?

[btcfaucet]

Sorry I didnt understand well. So I can't put all the amount on one game this is the issue.

More like... attempt to care is the issue Give all games a bit of attention, keep coming back to bet on more games, and if you bet smart you get to take home more coins than what you started with. It's not a big request :-)

But How can i find the wager in final ?

I'm guessing you mean the one at https://betwitter.com/account - "Total bets" if I remember correctly.

[btcfaucet]

admin i don't understand why 0.20BTC wagered for me?

Not for you specifically (nothing personal), but 3 users out of the 11 who put all the 0.1 they got for me on one game, avoiding all that very-very hard work of at least attempting to make a reasonable bet on all games, which would be more fun anyway. I have raised the limit to 0.2 which means you'll still need to place some sensible bets on games and whatever remains (more or less) you get to keep.

i just won there now balance is 0.18BTC

Yes, you started with the 0.1 I gave you, ended up with 0.18 apparently, winning on that game.

so how can i check my wagered there, and what is minimum withdraw?

See https://betwitter.com/account

When it says "Bets: 0.2 BTC" or more (and not from betting it or most of it on one game but making a bit of effort to use more games) then I'll happily enable withdrawals. For the remaining 8 beta testers this limit is still 0.1 only.

[amiryaqot]

admin i don't understand why 0.20BTC wagered for me?

Not for you specifically (nothing personal), but 3 users out of the 11 who put all the 0.1 they got for me on one game, avoiding all that very-very hard work of at least attempting to make a reasonable bet on all games, which would be more fun anyway. I have raised the limit to 0.2 which means you'll still need to place some sensible bets on games and whatever remains (more or less) you get to keep.

i just won there now balance is 0.18BTC

Yes, you started with the 0.1 I gave you, ended up with 0.18 apparently, winning on that game.

so how can i check my wagered there, and what is minimum withdraw?

See https://betwitter.com/account

When it says "Bets: 0.2 BTC" or more (and not from betting it or most of it on one game but making a bit of effort to use more games) then I'll happily enable withdrawals. For the remaining 8 beta testers this limit is still 0.1 only.

thanks admin for kind reply, oh i understand now never put all amount in 1 bet, so now i will place my in different bets,
anyway i am enjoying to there that is really like having fun

[twister]

I won a game So happy.
That's 1/11, still 10 remaining and I have half amount on bets, so even if I lose all which is very unlikely I'd still have half as back up.  
I am gonna go follow your twitter and do some RTs. This is an awesome game. +1 to you.

EDIT: You don't have twitter?  

[btcfaucet]

EDIT: You don't have twitter? 

There is a Twitter account, but I'm still waiting for a logo. I prefer IRC, a few of us are there on Freenode @ #betwitter

[btcfaucet]

hello admin, is there any problem to put 0.10 as bet on your site what is mean of that players can't bet opposite him? or all players have to bet on a same words? what method for draw result there?

Hi

I will assume that you are asking what happens if there are no opposing bets. In such a case, the game is cancelled on the deadline, and every gets back their money. No fee is taken for cancelled games' payouts.

[CryForMeSky]

Thoughts:

1. This is a very interesting concept

2. You never explain anywhere specifically how the wagering/payouts work.  THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART!  I can assume that these are parimutuel pools but I have no clue if that's correct or not.  

3.  In your OP you say that affiliates get 25% commission but on your site you say "If you were referred to the site by a friend, we only take 0.5% and give the remaining 0.5% to your friend.".  So is it 25% or 50%?

4.  The scoreboard doesn't auto-update, that's a little annoying, I'd like to be able to see a bet update in real time without having to jam the refresh button.

5.  The scoreboard doesn't auto-sort.  The top item on the scoreboard should be the thing that is currently winning.  Right now it's in alphabetical order, which is confusing.

6.  The scoreboard is out of order.  Right now it say "Tweets" in large font (number of tweets) and then "(by) in much smaller font.  But I'm lead to believe that the total tweets doesn't matter (because multiples aren't counted), only the unique number of tweeters is counted.  Therefore the "(by)" number should be the relevant metric used to decide the winner and should obviously be the more in-front number.

7.  This seems redic easy to manipulate.  People can buy twitter followers for something like $5/10000.  Seems like there are bots who are capable of mass manipulating the twitter format.  What is preventing someone from placing a bet on an underrepresented choice and then paying one of these companies a small amount of money to tweet out that word/phrase from a ton of bots?  Is there a way you are protecting against this?  

[twister]

EDIT: You don't have twitter? 

There is a Twitter account, but I'm still waiting for a logo. I prefer IRC, a few of us are there on Freenode @ #betwitter

I don't use IRC man! Imma wait till your twitter goes live. And then I'll start RTing with my affiliate link.

[btcfaucet]

2. You never explain anywhere specifically how the wagering/payouts work.  THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART!  I can assume that these are parimutuel pools but I have no clue if that's correct or not.

For selection & true/false it's kind of a given, in the latter one group wins the coins of an opposing group in the ratio of their bets. For estimate type games, the par is twice the median average of all bets, anything outside that gets zero points, anything exactly the resulting number gets maximum points, coins are redistributed based on these points and the bet amounts.

3.  In your OP you say that affiliates get 25% commission but on your site you say "If you were referred to the site by a friend, we only take 0.5% and give the remaining 0.5% to your friend.".  So is it 25% or 50%?

Nice catch, thanks. It was changed to 25% but the text remained there. It's fixed now.

4.  The scoreboard doesn't auto-update, that's a little annoying, I'd like to be able to see a bet update in real time without having to jam the refresh button.

I didn't find it annoying but if the site gets a bit more popular then something will be implemented I'm sure.

5.  The scoreboard doesn't auto-sort.  The top item on the scoreboard should be the thing that is currently winning.  Right now it's in alphabetical order, which is confusing.

It would need to have AI to interpret the formula and know what is most interesting. The formula could be a multiplication of 3 variables for all we know.

6.  The scoreboard is out of order.  Right now it say "Tweets" in large font (number of tweets) and then "(by) in much smaller font.  But I'm lead to believe that the total tweets doesn't matter (because multiples aren't counted), only the unique number of tweeters is counted.  Therefore the "(by)" number should be the relevant metric used to decide the winner and should obviously be the more in-front number.

I went with how it makes more sense in everyday text rather than to go with how we currently happen to describe most games of this type. But it's still just one type of game and variable of many.

7.  This seems redic easy to manipulate.  People can buy twitter followers for something like $5/10000.  Seems like there are bots who are capable of mass manipulating the twitter format.  What is preventing someone from placing a bet on an underrepresented choice and then paying one of these companies a small amount of money to tweet out that word/phrase from a ton of bots?  Is there a way you are protecting against this?  

I'm not sure about that $5 / 100000 number. There's no real protection. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Some games may be manipulated by getting celebrities to tweet something. If you're good with social engineering, why not?

[CryForMeSky]

Thanks for the reply.  Still a couple of confusing things:

For selection & true/false it's kind of a given, in the latter one group wins the coins of an opposing group in the ratio of their bets. For estimate type games, the par is twice the median average of all bets, anything outside that gets zero points, anything exactly the resulting number gets maximum points, coins are redistributed based on these points and the bet amounts.

Yeah, you probably need to clearly explain all of that (with examples) on your site.  You really didn't answer my question though.  Here's an example: there is a true/false question.  75% of the money is bet on "true".  25% of the money is bet on "false".  For an average person, it is reasonable to assume that since it is a "50/50" bet, that they will double their money (less vig) on a win.  For an experienced bettor, it is reasonable to assume that the pools are parimutuel, so the winning pool will win the losing pool (less vig) at the corresponding %.  So you'll have one person who bet 3BTC on true who is expecting a 2.97BTC return and another who bet 3BTC on true who is expecting a .99BTC return.

It would need to have AI to interpret the formula and know what is most interesting. The formula could be a multiplication of 3 variables for all we know.

I'm not following.  One thing is ahead of all the other things.  That thing should be at the top of the scoreboard.  Just have it sort by number of tweeters instead of alphabetical order.

I went with how it makes more sense in everyday text rather than to go with how we currently happen to describe most games of this type. But it's still just one type of game and variable of many.

You want people to see at-a-glance what is winning.  The relevant number, for the bet, is the number that is in smaller font.  That doesn't make sense.

I'm not sure about that $5 / 100000 number. There's no real protection. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Some games may be manipulated by getting celebrities to tweet something. If you're good with social engineering, why not?

I just googled "how to buy twitter followers" and that was the first result. , I honestly don't know how accurate it is.  I just think it's important to be clear: is manipulation of the bets allowed? 

[btcfaucet]

For an average person, it is reasonable to assume that since it is a "50/50" bet, that they will double their money (less vig) on a win.

There is no house except me placing bets on games to make sure they run and so there's something to win. This means that players play against each other. It also means that it's not 50/50 if the game shows 0.2 on one side and 0.8 on the other side.

One thing is ahead of all the other things.  That thing should be at the top of the scoreboard.  Just have it sort by number of tweeters instead of alphabetical order.

I might add sorting, but it will not know automatically what to choose, because technically it the formula/result doesn't have to be one thing.

You want people to see at-a-glance what is winning.  The relevant number, for the bet, is the number that is in smaller font.  That doesn't make sense.

The relevant number could be something complicated in theory. But showing the current result is a good idea and it will be added down the line.

I just googled "how to buy twitter followers" and that was the first result. , I honestly don't know how accurate it is.  I just think it's important to be clear: is manipulation of the bets allowed? 

Yes. Whatever makes it as a tweet remains there. I also retain the option to be able to cancel / undo games, but I'll prefer it to learn from games and possibly add filters. All rights reserved!

[CryForMeSky]

There is no house except me placing bets on games to make sure they run and so there's something to win. This means that players play against each other. It also means that it's not 50/50 if the game shows 0.2 on one side and 0.8 on the other side.

Again, I understand that because I've been betting horses for years.  The average bitcoin user isn't going to understand parimutuel pools.  You need to explain it to them.

Yes. Whatever makes it as a tweet remains there. I also retain the option to be able to cancel / undo games, but I'll prefer it to learn from games and possibly add filters. All rights reserved!

Saying "everything is allowed unless I say after the fact it isn't" is a horrible policy to have in place.  Especially since you just admitted that you play your own game. 

[btcfaucet]

I've posted some new games and bets!

[Havelivi]

when i tried to withdraw i got that message Code 0014: Please contact support
admin fix it there, i think i wagered 0.10.

[amiryaqot]

Code 0014: Please contact support

my wagered is 0.23BTC now and i can take withdraw as per your statement after 0.20BTC you will lift the limit to withdraw.

[trafficolaa]

Code 0014: Please contact support

my wagered is 0.23BTC now and i can take withdraw as per your statement after 0.20BTC you will lift the limit to withdraw.

me too have same problem with 0.12 Btc, admin kindly lift limit from withdraw,
i am in little profit there, that really interesting way of betting.

[newcripto]

This is great concept of betting I love it , surely will continue playing and support it. I cashed out my first earnings of 0.15BTC. thanks

[boopy265420]

Although I didn't receive bonus as tester but I like the idea behind this system. Just wanna say keep it up and sooner this site will be one of the best and popular betting sites . It is simple and unique and easy to use.

[buddu]

Are you planning for some other promo bonus campaign in future ? You did great job by making this site just need to reach to many people .

[goose20]

Got Paid Instant

https://blockchain.info/tx/6945f53aebfb56b54250e554da6c06b4d5cefebf243931f27df5a40bba03e33b

that is awesome betting site with fun way to bet, awesome experience i have with site,

So why did you withdraw???

The game is pretty cool - it needs good players like you to grow.

[crytoboost]

I was lost all amount for just put all amount in a bet and busted, any way good to see they are paying,
now will try with deposit there and put there hope will recover that 0.10.

[suman66]

this game is interesting i like your site betwitter

is their is only questions and answers and the pot

Code 0014: Please contact support

my wagered is 0.23BTC now and i can take withdraw as per your statement after 0.20BTC you will lift the limit to withdraw.

withdraw 0.20 btc and rest amount play the game more

[virtapayseller666]

i want to test your site

my username is - virtapayseller6

thanks in advance

[Havelivi]

betiwitter has really interesting concept of betting, withdraw is almost instant there,
i enjoyed to play there and will deposit again to play there.

[victoryboy]

I visited this site and made account for me interesting way of betting simple and easy and also quick to know results.

[suman66]

I visited this site and made account for me interesting way of betting simple and easy and also quick to know results.

its not quick to know the answers the time to get the result is one hour than how you can say result time is instant , yes betting is simple

[Havelivi]

I visited this site and made account for me interesting way of betting simple and easy and also quick to know results.

its not quick to know the answers the time to get the result is one hour than how you can say result time is instant , yes betting is simple

some are less than one hour, if you had bet there you can know result in 32 minutes you can know the reslut in some bet, and some bets take time more than a hours.

[ticoti]

the UI is really ugly, but the concept is very good, just try to get a better interface...

[btcfaucet]

All withdrawals are enabled for all users.

[fox19891989]

I did give ~3 BTC to the ~10 beta test members before the BTCTalk launch. I guess I could give a few more coins out to the first few users with 200+ posts...

How'bout this? I'll give the first 10 people interested 0.1 BTC each (requirement: genuine interest, 200+ posts) - time limited offer.

Their withdrawals will be disabled until they msg me to check their total wager and if they've spent the coins on games, I'll re-enable withdrawals and they can keep any payouts.

Your game is innovative and interesting, I wanna get it to try, is it OK to get it now?

I see there are 7 pages already, I guess I won't be no.10, right...  What a sad story.

You can also have the campaign in games and rounds section.

[Havelivi]

I did give ~3 BTC to the ~10 beta test members before the BTCTalk launch. I guess I could give a few more coins out to the first few users with 200+ posts...

How'bout this? I'll give the first 10 people interested 0.1 BTC each (requirement: genuine interest, 200+ posts) - time limited offer.

Their withdrawals will be disabled until they msg me to check their total wager and if they've spent the coins on games, I'll re-enable withdrawals and they can keep any payouts.

Your game is innovative and interesting, I wanna get it to try, is it OK to get it now?

I see there are 7 pages already, I guess I won't be no.10, right...  What a sad story.

You can also have the campaign in games and rounds section.

that offer is also over now, that was really great opportunity to test that site,
my experience is much interesting and great with that new concept of betting.

[arallmuus]

All withdrawals are enabled for all users.

does your sites support a demo feature? or play with credit money? wanted to test, but im still not really sure how this works, and where can i check the previous game that has ended? i want to check wether the words match up with data on twitter

Last but not least, consider changing the FAQ with some pictures to demonstrate how this game is play instead of wall of text there  

[twister]

the UI is really ugly, but the concept is very good, just try to get a better interface...

I beg to differ, I think the UI suits the whole twitter concept.
There's one thing that I wanted to suggest, I'll send it through PM.

Btw +1 for the instant withdrawals. I withdraw some of the wins I had.

I am still in 8 games , hopefully will be able to double them.

[thebitcoinquiz.com]

the UI is really ugly, but the concept is very good, just try to get a better interface...

To me the UI looked pretty good and the website looks pretty descent on mobile. Didn't test it out on computer but my mobile experience was nice. Also I think that the fee was pretty low as compared to other such sites based on the same concept of betting.

[amiryaqot]

the UI is really ugly, but the concept is very good, just try to get a better interface...

To me the UI looked pretty good and the website looks pretty descent on mobile. Didn't test it out on computer but my mobile experience was nice. Also I think that the fee was pretty low as compared to other such sites based on the same concept of betting.

on computer it is looking nice and simple user interface,
i am using from computer that is on genuine script and unique custom design.

[btcfaucet]

does your sites support a demo feature? or play with credit money? wanted to test, but im still not really sure how this works, and where can i check the previous game that has ended? i want to check wether the words match up with data on twitter

Last but not least, consider changing the FAQ with some pictures to demonstrate how this game is play instead of wall of text there  

Sorry, it doesn't support play money.

There will be a video to explain how it works (and hopefully user videos too later).

[btcfaucet]

Your game is innovative and interesting, I wanna get it to try, is it OK to get it now?
I see there are 7 pages already, I guess I won't be no.10, right...  What a sad story.
You can also have the campaign in games and rounds section.

Some games are pretty obvious and me betting on the unlikely side is pretty much giving coins out. Se even though there are no more 0.1's left, there's still plenty of coins to take away by playing smart.

[suman66]

I would also like 0.1BTC for Beta Testing.
My username is "lalwa" .
Is there something else that I need to provide?

No, I've just sent 0.1 BTC to your account. From now on I will be enforcing the 200 post minimum threshold though

you are not giving now free btc even for 200 minimum post users and this 0.1 btc is withdraw able or not

[shulio]

Your game is innovative and interesting, I wanna get it to try, is it OK to get it now?
I see there are 7 pages already, I guess I won't be no.10, right...  What a sad story.
You can also have the campaign in games and rounds section.

Some games are pretty obvious and me betting on the unlikely side is pretty much giving coins out. Se even though there are no more 0.1's left, there's still plenty of coins to take away by playing smart.

how do you know some game is pretty obvious, since you are the owner, you must understand well the rules of it, i dont see anything being obvious easy money to take away there as it could be pure random isnt it?

you are not giving now free btc even for 200 minimum post users and this 0.1 btc is withdraw able or not

I think no more free coin is being given, entire 0.1 bonus have been claimed

[Havelivi]

I would also like 0.1BTC for Beta Testing.
My username is "lalwa" .
Is there something else that I need to provide?

No, I've just sent 0.1 BTC to your account. From now on I will be enforcing the 200 post minimum threshold though

you are not giving now free btc even for 200 minimum post users and this 0.1 btc is withdraw able or not

that offer is only for first 10 members, we apply for bonus there, that was really awesone giveaway offer with low wagered ever i seen, betwitter is has awesome betting concept.

[suman66]

you are not giving now free btc even for 200 minimum post users and this 0.1 btc is withdraw able or not

I think no more free coin is being given, entire 0.1 bonus have been claimed

any official reply from the admin about the bonus  of reward 0.1 btc for the users post minimum 200 and activity 200 because i am eligible for this offer

[KimNam]

interesting and unique game
it's interface is good, color and theme similar to twitter
it's about skill than luck, we can do some research before place a bet
my friend who spent a lot times on twitter will like this game, i send him message now
maybe we can bet together since i only know little about twitter

[shulio]

you are not giving now free btc even for 200 minimum post users and this 0.1 btc is withdraw able or not

I think no more free coin is being given, entire 0.1 bonus have been claimed

any official reply from the admin about the bonus  of reward 0.1 btc for the users post minimum 200 and activity 200 because i am eligible for this offer

why dont you read before you post? it seems like you are very antsy about this 0.1 giveaway

do read here

Your game is innovative and interesting, I wanna get it to try, is it OK to get it now?
I see there are 7 pages already, I guess I won't be no.10, right...  What a sad story.
You can also have the campaign in games and rounds section.

Some games are pretty obvious and me betting on the unlikely side is pretty much giving coins out. Se even though there are no more 0.1's left, there's still plenty of coins to take away by playing smart.

Everyone's welcome to test but I've run out of coins. Sorry Will still bet on this and that, so that's more free BTC to win.

[btcfaucet]

Also added a text with 20pt size saying offer no longer active.

[cashtraderuk]

I've been playing since the beginning of the beta testing and still find the game interesting & challenging.

Here's an example the following game result which seemed obvious to me

https://betwitter.com/game/48/statement/battle-of-the-sexes

I was confident that 'men' would be tweeted more than 'woman' and I was correct and won  

When the game came up again...

https://betwitter.com/game/113/statement/battle-of-the-sexes

I placed my bet with all confidence on 'men', but if I had been a little more astute I would have checked the news and events for that day and seen it was "International Women's day"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women's_Day

So clearly 'Woman' was going to be the favourite.

This is what makes the game so interesting as timing, trends and current world events can change the outcome of many of the games that at first appear obvious.

An example of where timing matters is the following game that ran on a Tuesday and resulted in 'problem' winning

https://betwitter.com/game/74/selection/cold-party-problem

but then the same game was schedule on a weekend it resulted in 'party' winning

https://betwitter.com/game/93/selection/cold-party-problem

So if you are astute and take the time to do a little research it possible to have an edge  

[boopy265420]

These posts will be even after 100 pages because most of the people they read OP and just post . You brought really wonderful idea of game . I can say this site is going to be huge in near future.

[bitbaby]

Definitely very unique idea for a game, haven't tried it but will try soon, is there a way to check the results? Like if a word is chosen as a winner how can I know that it had the most tweets/followers etc.

[MKMarvel]

.01 min bet? Nope. Sorry, needs to be lower.

[CryForMeSky]

.01 min bet? Nope. Sorry, needs to be lower.

That's funny because I was just about to post that the only reason I haven't played yet is that the pools just aren't big enough to interest me.

[MKMarvel]

.01 min bet? Nope. Sorry, needs to be lower.

That's funny because I was just about to post that the only reason I haven't played yet is that the pools just aren't big enough to interest me.

Bit of both maybe? High bet min and low pool? .01 min bet is kinda steep.

[CryForMeSky]

.01 min bet? Nope. Sorry, needs to be lower.

That's funny because I was just about to post that the only reason I haven't played yet is that the pools just aren't big enough to interest me.

Bit of both maybe? High bet min and low pool? .01 min bet is kinda steep.

My personal opinion is that if $2.75 is a prohibitive cost to you, it's probably irresponsible for you to be gambling.

But, because of the nature of parimutuel betting, a min bet is necessary to prevent people from going around and betting dust on underrepresented items.  Especially since it's so new so there are fewer users on around the clock.

[pozmu]

It's not always 0.01, sometimes you can bet as little as 0.005, I'm not really sure on what it depends.
Anyway, I don't like minimum bet requirement too. If you want to achieve higher traffic to your site/ more users, you should remove that limit IMHO.
As for the games, statistics proved to be correct so far  

Ok, problem: why there is no statistics available for some words, e.g. Here: https://betwitter.com/game/151/statement/horses-vs-fish  

Another one: too much rounding, my balance is 0.1, I bet 0.005 and suddenly my balance is 0.09

[btcfaucet]

any official reply from the admin about the bonus  of reward 0.1 btc for the users post minimum 200 and activity 200 because i am eligible for this offer

It was the first 10 (in practice, 11) users only. The thread text (the post where the offer is made) has been updated to say no more rewards.

is there a way to check the results? Like if a word is chosen as a winner how can I know that it had the most tweets/followers etc.

You can use the tweet log (available in .txt and .html), write your own program to filter words and see a result with the same numbers.

If you monitor games that have words with a lower tweet frequency, you are able to check the tweet count / follower count etc in real time.

how do you know some game is pretty obvious, since you are the owner, you must understand well the rules of it, i dont see anything being obvious easy money to take away there as it could be pure random isnt it?

The rules should be easy to understand to anyone. As to why I think some games were obvious and easy to win:

1) https://betwitter.com/game/164/statement/battle-of-the-sexes

The outcome was pretty much guaranteed for this one, if you were aware that it was international women's day. It was free bitcoins. In the literal sense.

2) https://betwitter.com/game/112/statement/more-calm-than-panic

Calm is a more frequently used word. As such, True had 6 bets, whereas False had 2. Calm had over twice as many tweeters.

3) https://betwitter.com/game/140/statement/girlfriend-is-more-popular-than-the-wife

This was a clone game, Girlfriend was the previous result, it was bound to win this time as well.

4) https://betwitter.com/game/97/selection/which-city-is-the-most-popular-one

"London" wasn't guaranteed, but it had good probabilities. Better than dice

5) https://betwitter.com/game/103/selection/followers-of-jesus-and-allah

Allah has more tweeters, so a better chance for the higher follower count to be it. And it won.

^^^

And these are really just scratching the surface, not employing any deeper investigation like time of day when the tweets are sampled, mass psychology effects of week vs weekend, etc.

.01 min bet? Nope. Sorry, needs to be lower.

You are free to choose your min bet when you submit a game. Most I have submitted had a 0.005 BTC minimum bet, but for some (maybe 4 out of a hundred or two) I chose 0.01. Most are 0.005 though and could be even lower. I would prefer some games with a big pot, with a low minimum but many players raising the pot (because, of course, betting a bigger amount means you get a bigger slice of the pie when you win). The problem is currently everyone waiting for everyone else to post bets, everyone's waiting for the pot to grow big on both sides or at least the opposing side. And a lot of people find the entry/pot to be too small to play. Which is sad because sometimes reading the tweet logs can be pretty funny, even if you don't play. And some results are interesting.

Ok, problem: why there is no statistics available for some words, e.g. Here: https://betwitter.com/game/151/statement/horses-vs-fish   Huh

No words had any stats in the beginning, they're sampled during games. It seems that horse/fish are a new breed

Here's a list of some words sampled for a few days before the site went live(-ish).

https://betwitter.com/wordsample.html - it's just an HTML, you'll seem to be logged out but you won't be.

I don't like minimum bet requirement too. If you want to achieve higher traffic to your site/ more users, you should remove that limit IMHO.

Obviously there has to be a minimum. I tried to aim for the middle ground where resulting pots aren't completely miniscule but it's still not a lot of money either. That's why most are 0.005. I'll try a few smaller and bigger ones too

Another one: too much rounding, my balance is 0.1, I bet 0.005 and suddenly my balance is 0.09

That's just the top bar where space is stuffed. Click on your balance and you'll get the exact number. It's up to 8 digits and you see your wallet history too.

[shulio]

how do you know some game is pretty obvious, since you are the owner, you must understand well the rules of it, i dont see anything being obvious easy money to take away there as it could be pure random isnt it?

The rules should be easy to understand to anyone. As to why I think some games were obvious and easy to win:

1) https://betwitter.com/game/164/statement/battle-of-the-sexes

The outcome was pretty much guaranteed for this one, if you were aware that it was international women's day. It was free bitcoins. In the literal sense.

2) https://betwitter.com/game/112/statement/more-calm-than-panic

Calm is a more frequently used word. As such, True had 6 bets, whereas False had 2. Calm had over twice as many tweeters.

3) https://betwitter.com/game/140/statement/girlfriend-is-more-popular-than-the-wife

This was a clone game, Girlfriend was the previous result, it was bound to win this time as well.

4) https://betwitter.com/game/97/selection/which-city-is-the-most-popular-one

"London" wasn't guaranteed, but it had good probabilities. Better than dice

5) https://betwitter.com/game/103/selection/followers-of-jesus-and-allah

Allah has more tweeters, so a better chance for the higher follower count to be it. And it won.

im Sorry before, i think it is best to drop off topic like religion here, it is best to leave this kind of religion thing outside of some gambling sites, because i do think that using the name of gods to gamble is innapropriate

[btcfaucet]

im Sorry before, i think it is best to drop off topic like religion here, it is best to leave this kind of religion thing outside of some gambling sites, because i do think that using the name of gods to gamble is innapropriate

There are games with 'John' and 'Miley Cyrus', 'Jesus' is an interesting word to sample as well. This was never about religion so I agree, let's drop the subject.

[shulio]

im Sorry before, i think it is best to drop off topic like religion here, it is best to leave this kind of religion thing outside of some gambling sites, because i do think that using the name of gods to gamble is innapropriate

There are games with 'John' and 'Miley Cyrus', 'Jesus' is an interesting word to sample as well. This was never about religion so I agree, let's drop the subject.

btw, is there a way for me to verify the data from the game? or perhaps you should implement the feature to check the data of the game from twitter, since casino implement provably fair, i think your site which is base on twitter should put on a way to verify the data too

[btcfaucet]

btw, is there a way for me to verify the data from the game? or perhaps you should implement the feature to check the data of the game from twitter, since casino implement provably fair, i think your site which is base on twitter should put on a way to verify the data too

Yes, there is a tweet log that you can watch in real time as it grows and then count everything. For the 'estimate' type of game where the specific bets aren't shown until the deadline, an SHA-256 summary of all the bets (and a nonce) is shown.

[arallmuus]

Hi, btcfaucet, i got some unanswered question here

-snip-
 where can i check the previous game that has ended?
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Btw i am still Learning on how to play in this sites, it looks easy to predict but since your sites dont support a play money, id rather understand the sites more before i tried to play with my coins

[btcfaucet]

where can i check the previous game that has ended?

You'll find all your bets at https://betwitter.com/account/history
There is also a link to recent games in your wallet history as well: https://betwitter.com/wallet/BTC
And of course the last 50 or 100 games or so appear on the games list at https://betwitter.com/games

Btw i am still Learning on how to play in this sites, it looks easy to predict but since your sites dont support a play money, id rather understand the sites more before i tried to play with my coins

But it's so easy! There's a statement like "this game will have twice as many tweeters as that word" and unless you know of some event that is happening on the date or anything that influences how much the target words are tweeted, you bet on the outcome based on stats that you'll find most of the time by clicking on a word. On the rare occasion that no stats are available, go with a gut feeling :-)



Many new games & bets posted! -> https://betwitter.com/games


^^^^^^^^^^
Some of those games are pretty much free coins to anyone who takes a minute to think and understand and do the maths

[arallmuus]

where can i check the previous game that has ended?

You'll find all your bets at https://betwitter.com/account/history
There is also a link to recent games in your wallet history as well: https://betwitter.com/wallet/BTC
And of course the last 50 or 100 games or so appear on the games list at https://betwitter.com/games

Btw i am still Learning on how to play in this sites, it looks easy to predict but since your sites dont support a play money, id rather understand the sites more before i tried to play with my coins

But it's so easy! There's a statement like "this game will have twice as many tweeters as that word" and unless you know of some event that is happening on the date or anything that influences how much the target words are tweeted, you bet on the outcome based on stats that you'll find most of the time by clicking on a word. On the rare occasion that no stats are available, go with a gut feeling :-)



Many new games & bets posted! -> https://betwitter.com/games


^^^^^^^^^^
Some of those games are pretty much free coins to anyone who takes a minute to think and understand and do the maths

Thankyou for the explanation about this, can we make our own games? lets say if i made something like lion vs tiger words, or is it only you that could create a new game?

[btcfaucet]

Thankyou for the explanation about this, can we make our own games? lets say if i made something like lion vs tiger words, or is it only you that could create a new game?

Sure. See https://betwitter.com/submit

Also see the 'Clone this game' link at the bottom of games.

I would recommend that you come to IRC so 1) I could check the viability of your game idea before posting it, 2) so I could submit it for you and you wouldn't be charged for the game.

#betwitter on Freenode

[trafficolaa]

where can i check the previous game that has ended?

You'll find all your bets at https://betwitter.com/account/history
There is also a link to recent games in your wallet history as well: https://betwitter.com/wallet/BTC
And of course the last 50 or 100 games or so appear on the games list at https://betwitter.com/games

Btw i am still Learning on how to play in this sites, it looks easy to predict but since your sites dont support a play money, id rather understand the sites more before i tried to play with my coins

But it's so easy! There's a statement like "this game will have twice as many tweeters as that word" and unless you know of some event that is happening on the date or anything that influences how much the target words are tweeted, you bet on the outcome based on stats that you'll find most of the time by clicking on a word. On the rare occasion that no stats are available, go with a gut feeling :-)



Many new games & bets posted! -> https://betwitter.com/games


^^^^^^^^^^
Some of those games are pretty much free coins to anyone who takes a minute to think and understand and do the maths

Thankyou for the explanation about this, can we make our own games? lets say if i made something like lion vs tiger words, or is it only you that could create a new game?

to submit new game i will refer you to the following link, it is much easy to create new game,

https://betwitter.com/submit

[pozmu]

Another one: too much rounding, my balance is 0.1, I bet 0.005 and suddenly my balance is 0.09

That's just the top bar where space is stuffed. Click on your balance and you'll get the exact number. It's up to 8 digits and you see your wallet history too.

If minimum bet is 0.001 I think that top bar should show your balance accurately to that point - with rounding "down" so you always know how many bets you can afford without having to go to account details.
That's just my 0.002 :þ

[CryForMeSky]

Played off and on throughout the day, jotted down some thoughts as they occurred to me:

Deposits are quick - 2 confirms

Payouts are quick, seems to take around a minute or two after time expires on each game.

Withdraws are instant.

The start times need to be staggered just a little bit more.  Right now it looks like each game closes/pays out 5 minutes before the next one starts...but each game has a 5 minute buffer before it starts where it doesn't accept any more bets.  A lot of people like to roll their winnings over to the next game or only deposit enough for one game and don't have a balance to bet the next game until they get paid from a winning game.  The way the system is now, they get shut out of the next game.  If you just push each start time back 5 minutes (or remove the 5 minute no-bets buffer, but I'd imagine that is for safety/game integrity and needs to stay) I think you'll get a lot more volume.

Some of the games seem overly complicated.  For example the "true or false" game is just "which word will have more tweeters", but I can see it lead to confusion since "true" means one word while "false" means the other...why not just have the words listed?  Another game listed five celebrities and the bet was stated as "which performer will have the most combined followers?"  Now, at first blush, it seems very obvious that the bet is for...who will have the most followers.  Since that it literally what it says.  But that doesn't make any sense since those are static numbers and one person has 20,000,000 more than anyone else on the list.  Reading the rules and analyzing the formula and looking at the log during game play reveals that the actual game is that when someone ELSE tweets the celebritie's name, that person's total followers gets added to the running count.  So you are betting on who has the most combined followers of all the people tweeting about the celebrities.  Which is a very creative/fun/hard to predict game...but needs to be explained a little better.

The layout is pretty bad.  The balance cuts off and rounds, so you are always seeing an incorrect balance.  Having to refresh the page for updates is a little tedious.  Not having the leaderboard sort by what is winning is slightly annoying.  The number of tweets/followers/avg/max/total, while interesting metrics, are all irrelevant to the game and somewhat obfuscate what everyone is betting on (total tweeters).
Just to note - all of these issues are largely cosmetic and don't affect the game play.  None of these would prevent me from continuing to play here, but if improved I feel they would help the site look better, attract more players, and retain those players for longer.

I have no idea how feasable this is to impliment, but I would love to see the games be a little more intuitive.  For example, tomorrow there is a game of "drinking vs smoking".  But colloquially, people usually don't say "I'm drinking!" or "I'm smoking!"  If under the 'drinking' umbrella you add key words like "beer", "vodka", "whisky", "Bud", "brew", ect and under the 'smoking' umbrella you add key words like "cigarette", "cig", "pot", "weed", "vape", ect you'd have an outcome that is a little more accurate AND a little less easy to research.  Also have you considered common/intentional mispellings?  If there was a game of 'love' vs 'hate' (feel free to use that one), shouldn't 'luv' count for love and 'h8' count for hate?  Just something that popped into my head.

The games schedule is a little sporadic.  There were a bunch of games back to back to back this morning and afternoon, and now there is a 20 hour game and then nothing for 9 hours and then a 12 hour break after that one.  When I noticed this I tried to throw up some random games to fill in the open spots but the system only lets you create games 24 hours or more in advance.  Maybe throw up some games every half hour/hour and if they don't get action they don't get action.


Overall, I like the game, it's new and creative and fun and imo it's very easy to play in a +ev way which is important for longevity.  I'll def be checking out the games when they run in the next few days.

[MKMarvel]

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You are free to choose your min bet when you submit a game. Most I have submitted had a 0.005 BTC minimum bet, but for some (maybe 4 out of a hundred or two) I chose 0.01. Most are 0.005 though and could be even lower. I would prefer some games with a big pot, with a low minimum but many players raising the pot (because, of course, betting a bigger amount means you get a bigger slice of the pie when you win). The problem is currently everyone waiting for everyone else to post bets, everyone's waiting for the pot to grow big on both sides or at least the opposing side. And a lot of people find the entry/pot to be too small to play. Which is sad because sometimes reading the tweet logs can be pretty funny, even if you don't play. And some results are interesting.

I understand the logic, you need a good balance between a fair min bet and a good pot.  It is a balancing act and I can respect that. You are going to however find some people who get their bitcoins mostly from faucets and gambling a little cautious. I think this mostly comes from all the scams that have come a gone here. As you get older and more respected people will be willing to part with higher bets. Fourtnejack has some high min bets on some games and do fine. Just keep the game going and paying, over time the min bet won't be an issue. You could also allow bets in other cryptocurrencies.


I might buy some coins, just what draws me away is not knowing a safe place to do it.

[btcfaucet]

The start times need to be staggered just a little bit more.  Right now it looks like each game closes/pays out 5 minutes before the next one starts...but each game has a 5 minute buffer before it starts where it doesn't accept any more bets.  A lot of people like to roll their winnings over to the next game or only deposit enough for one game.

The idea was that there would be something playing that users are able to monitor, without having to wait for games to start. Even if it's just one game at once (and sometimes there are more running in parallel), you can always bet on the two next games, and then always have time. If I left 5 minutes between games, it wouldn't be enough to do proper research anyway. So use a bigger buffer :-)

For example the "true or false" game is just "which word will have more tweeters"

I was specifically trying to avoid posting any games like that, but may have one still laying around. The formula is always something to look at whenever you're confused or unsure. If you post the link to the game, I'll fix the text.

Now, at first blush, it seems very obvious that the bet is for...who will have the most followers.

It could be two things. Either the maximum follower count (what was the best follower count seen on users tweeting the word) or total/combined follower count (add up the followers of each and every twitter account that used the word).

Maximum follower count EXAMPLE:
- Timmy has 10 followers
- Jane has 5 followers
- Bob has 15 followers
Maximum follower count: 15.

Total follower count EXAMPLE:
- Timmy has 10 followers
- Jane has 5 followers
- Bob has 15 followers
Total follower count: 30.

The total follower count is kind of like tweeters, except the more followers someone has, the more weight them tweeting the word gets. Most of the time it's the word with the most tweeters that has the biggest total follower count.

the actual game is that when someone ELSE tweets the celebritie's name, that person's total followers gets added to the running count.

No, that is an incorrect interpretation.

So you are betting on who has the most combined followers of all the people tweeting about the celebrities.
Which is a very creative/fun/hard to predict game...but needs to be explained a little better.

Wrong. Celebrities only matter if there is a sum_total_celebrities variable included in the formula. Otherwise they don't matter at all.

The balance cuts off and rounds, so you are always seeing an incorrect balance.

I'll look into truncating it in the top bar instead of maybe showing 4 decimals.

Having to refresh the page for updates is a little tedious.

I expect that to be upgraded.

Not having the leaderboard sort by what is winning is slightly annoying.

I'll look into finding a middle ground for that.

The number of tweets/followers/avg/max/total, while interesting metrics, are all irrelevant to the game and
somewhat obfuscate what everyone is betting on (total tweeters).

"What everyone is betting on" can be very different in different games and the game can't AI to find out what it is.

If under the 'drinking' umbrella you add key words like "beer", "vodka", "whisky", "Bud", "brew", ect and under
the 'smoking' umbrella you add key words like "cigarette", "cig", "pot", "weed", "vape", ect you'd have an outcome

There was a similar game (vodka, whiskey, bourbon, beer etc) on the site before the last DB reset. And there may be again. You're also welcome to submit such a game.

shouldn't 'luv' count for love and 'h8' count for hate?  Just something that popped into my head.

I think games with two big common words are more fun than words with many words variations.

Maybe throw up some games every half hour/hour and if they don't get action they don't get action.

I will, later, if/when there are more players. For now it's hard as it is to find people to bet on games even when I throw in 'free coins' on both sides. I'm worried that if I let games be submitted quickly, most of them would end up being auto-cancelled.

[shulio]

btw, is there a way for me to verify the data from the game? or perhaps you should implement the feature to check the data of the game from twitter, since casino implement provably fair, i think your site which is base on twitter should put on a way to verify the data too

Yes, there is a tweet log that you can watch in real time as it grows and then count everything. For the 'estimate' type of game where the specific bets aren't shown until the deadline, an SHA-256 summary of all the bets (and a nonce) is shown.

this is interesting, but doesnt it means that this can be manipulated ? there is a chance that a user can easily use some script or bot to tweet the words that was from the game to boost the number of tweet thus increasing his chance to win

[btcfaucet]

this is interesting, but doesnt it means that this can be manipulated ? there is a chance that a user can easily use some script or bot to tweet the words that was from the game to boost the number of tweet thus increasing his chance to win

Like I said, it's really up to the individual game itself:

- how easy it will be to manipulate it with many twitter accounts
- how random the outcome will be
- how much difference research makes

For example if you create 'toopteetoop' vs 'pewpewpoo' and give it 10 minutes and make it a game about tweets rather than tweeters, it'll be a bunch of people posting these words over and over again on Twitter.

However if you pick 'lol' vs 'love', even a 30 minute sampling of tweet(er)s will be hard to manipulate because some those words have 20-30000 tweets per hour.

Then there's estimate type of games where you don't know what others bet before the deadline, and there's follower / celebrity based games that are probably easier to manipulate by befriending one of the ~100 celebrities in the list :-)

If I see manipulation down the line, I will most likely increase the attackers' cost by adding any obvious bots to a spamlist and ignoring their tweets, so after every manipulated game they'd have to get thousand more accounts (if Twitter doesn't ban them on their own). For now the game is fun enough and I don't see any clear manipulation. I expect it'll be a cat & mouse game a few months down the line if BETwitter picks up.

[btcfaucet]

Quick update: the tweet logs (txt and html) sometimes showed tweets twice. Nothing was counted twice, logging happened twice when two words were matched (which is normally rare but with this Tennis game it becomes obvious).

It's fixed now, the same tweets won't be logged multiple times.

[CryForMeSky]

the actual game is that when someone ELSE tweets the celebritie's name, that person's total followers gets added to the running count.


No, that is an incorrect interpretation.


So you are betting on who has the most combined followers of all the people tweeting about the celebrities.
Which is a very creative/fun/hard to predict game...but needs to be explained a little better.


Wrong. Celebrities only matter if there is a sum_total_celebrities variable included in the formula. Otherwise they don't matter at all.

Boy it really seemed like that was EXACTLY what happened.  

https://betwitter.com/game/156/selection/popmusic-selector

When someone tweeted one of those celebrities full names, it seemed like the person who tweeted that name had their follower count added to the running total.  Is that wrong?  If it is wrong, I honestly can't figure out what that game is about.  Could you inform me please?

[pozmu]

Yeah, I think more info should be provided, descriptions are bit ambigous.
On usability side, there is no "log me in automatically" option.

[djibrilantiuang]

damn this is cool, unique! i would love this game, but yeah the description too short.

[Nobitcoin]

Been playing on this site and so far found it easy to win. I've won 3 out of 4 bets love this site very original. The withdraws are fast as well.

[btcfaucet]

Boy it really seemed like that was EXACTLY what happened.  

https://betwitter.com/game/156/selection/popmusic-selector

When someone tweeted one of those celebrities full names, it seemed like the person who tweeted that name had their follower count added to the running total.  Is that wrong?  If it is wrong, I honestly can't figure out what that game is about.  Could you inform me please?

You may have been confused because in this specific and unique game, the words themselves were celebrity names. But "lady gaga" could have been "shortbread", it's just a word. The celebrity list wasn't applied to this game in any way.

The follower count for the *word* 'lady gaga' grew when someone new tweeted 'lady gaga'.

When someone tweets a word, the *tweets count* grows by one, always.

The "tweeter count", "maximum followers", "total followers" and "celebrities" only grow if it's the person's first tweet of the word in the game.

[btcfaucet]

A few thoughts on recently finished games:

https://betwitter.com/game/114/selection/drinking-or-smoking

Drinking is done by more people, this result was somewhat expected.

https://betwitter.com/game/170/selection/hungry-war-cat

This was a close one between the three words. This will be a good clone

https://betwitter.com/game/160/selection/what-are-people-on-about

Most people bet 'work', and it being a weekday, they were going to be right, too.

https://betwitter.com/game/148/statement/no-celebrities-allowed

Plenty of time for tweets, typical celebrity words... Still, I wouldn't have expected 6 celebrities to tweet.

https://betwitter.com/game/174/statement/more-people-will-be-bored-than-partying

It was a good clone outcome. Previous results had some people fooled

https://betwitter.com/game/143/selection/tennis-players

Whoever knew about the upcoming match (I didn't, before looking at the tweet logs, after the deadline) had a sure thing coming.

https://betwitter.com/game/176/statement/family-is-more-important-than-business

Family's always been more important than business so far.

https://betwitter.com/game/166/statement/more-people-will-be-bored-than-partying

It's usually the other way around. But I think a good Tuesday timing did the trick. More people were bored than partying, for a change.

[arallmuus]

Like I said, it's really up to the individual game itself:

- how easy it will be to manipulate it with many twitter accounts
- how random the outcome will be
- how much difference research makes

For example if you create 'toopteetoop' vs 'pewpewpoo' and give it 10 minutes and make it a game about tweets rather than tweeters, it'll be a bunch of people posting these words over and over again on Twitter.

However if you pick 'lol' vs 'love', even a 30 minute sampling of tweet(er)s will be hard to manipulate because some those words have 20-30000 tweets per hour.

Then there's estimate type of games where you don't know what others bet before the deadline, and there's follower / celebrity based games that are probably easier to manipulate by befriending one of the ~100 celebrities in the list :-)

If I see manipulation down the line, I will most likely increase the attackers' cost by adding any obvious bots to a spamlist and ignoring their tweets, so after every manipulated game they'd have to get thousand more accounts (if Twitter doesn't ban them on their own). For now the game is fun enough and I don't see any clear manipulation. I expect it'll be a cat & mouse game a few months down the line if BETwitter picks up.

I think the best way for this is too ignored a tweeter account with less than X follower and also less than Y following or could done by filtering twitter account that was made for at least Z months

[cryptworld]

it is amazing the amount of stats that you have, but It is scary to bet without knowing anything about what may happen 

[btcfaucet]

it is amazing the amount of stats that you have, but It is scary to bet without knowing anything about what may happen  

Come on, what's scary in a <$2 bet? :-)

People bet life savings on dice games where it's mathematically guaranteed they will lose in the long run.

Here you get to place a tweet knowing about many different things that influence the outcome, and many times (see the examples above) a simple gut feeling will land you a winning bet.

I'm not a big Twitter user myself but some tweets I run into while reading logs are either funny or informative. The games and the tweet logs are nice to browse sometimes.

Ps. since ~12 hours ago the numbers are updated automatically for live games. Should make it more fun to watch in real time. Also thinking of making a chart or some illustration on game tweets/followers/etc.

[CryForMeSky]

Boy it really seemed like that was EXACTLY what happened. 

https://betwitter.com/game/156/selection/popmusic-selector

When someone tweeted one of those celebrities full names, it seemed like the person who tweeted that name had their follower count added to the running total.  Is that wrong?  If it is wrong, I honestly can't figure out what that game is about.  Could you inform me please?

You may have been confused because in this specific and unique game, the words themselves were celebrity names. But "lady gaga" could have been "shortbread", it's just a word. The celebrity list wasn't applied to this game in any way.

The follower count for the *word* 'lady gaga' grew when someone new tweeted 'lady gaga'.

When someone tweets a word, the *tweets count* grows by one, always.

The "tweeter count", "maximum followers", "total followers" and "celebrities" only grow if it's the person's first tweet of the word in the game.

Right, we're saying the same thing.  I'm saying it was very confusing BECAUSE the key words in this game were people who had their own twitter pages with follower counts.  It's confusing that "follower count" means follower count of the people who tweet out those names and not follower count of those people themselves.

Anyway, I see you've already implemented a couple of my suggestions, the site looks great and I'll def be checking out some games today.  I think a live chart illustrating the tweeter count during the game is a great idea.

[CryForMeSky]

Can you explain how the payouts work in the 'estimation' games (like the upcoming "lol" game)?  There is an option to bet varying amounts but that doesn't make much sense since the odds of two people guessing the exact same number are very very very low.  Looking at the game it was cloned from, it looks like there were two payouts (out of three bets), one for 84.6% of the prize pool and one for 15.4% of the prize pool.  Are these static payouts?  Are they based on how far away from the actual the guess is?  I can't find any of these answers on the site, sorry if I'm overlooking something I just can't see the advantage in betting .02 over .005 and I can't figure out how the payouts work in that specific game type.

Edit: Nevermind, I found it "In estimate type games, the coins are redistributed between the players based on how close they were to the result, how close other players were to the result, and how much they bet. The system takes the median average of differences between the guesses and the result. Players who guessed the result perfectly get maximum score, players who are further away from the result than twice the median average get a score of 0. The scores are also multiplied by the bet amount, in other words how much the players risked. The coins are then redistributed based on these scores. ".

[bitllionaire]

Does anyone know how could we predict the most likely to happen? or this is just pure luck?

[CryForMeSky]

Does anyone know how could we predict the most likely to happen? or this is just pure luck?

Do research, think critically.  

For example, the current game is work vs school.  More people are affected by work than are affected by school.  In addition to that, when the game starts (4pm PST/7pm EST), way more people will be at work/have work on their mind than will be at school.  So it makes sense that work should win.  However you also have to look at the pools.  There is a lot more money on 'work' than there is on 'school'.  So if you bet on school, you'd win a lot more money than if you'd bet on work.  So if you think something is 50/50, it makes sense to bet on the thing that has the least money in it so you make the most.

[btcfaucet]

https://betwitter.com/game/125/selection/what-is-going-on-in-the-world-right-now

I think with a slightly different timing, the Ferguson events would have caused this game to end with 'shooting' for the first time.

[goose20]

Does anyone know how could we predict the most likely to happen? or this is just pure luck?

Do research, think critically.  

For example, the current game is work vs school.  More people are affected by work than are affected by school.  In addition to that, when the game starts (4pm PST/7pm EST), way more people will be at work/have work on their mind than will be at school.  So it makes sense that work should win.  However you also have to look at the pools.  There is a lot more money on 'work' than there is on 'school'.  So if you bet on school, you'd win a lot more money than if you'd bet on work.  So if you think something is 50/50, it makes sense to bet on the thing that has the least money in it so you make the most.

Logical.
But if it's not 50/50, dont bet on the less popular option in the hope of 'making the most' -  alot of the games are no brainers and the popular option are popular for a good reason - some easy games are out there (albeit with only very little profit potential).

[btcfaucet]

But if it's not 50/50, dont bet on the less popular option in the hope of 'making the most' -  alot of the games are no brainers and the popular option are popular for a good reason - some easy games are out there (albeit with only very little profit potential).

IMHO even a small profit is good profit, when there isn't a lot of risk.

To the gentleman reading this thread who indirectly sent me a text message: I don't remember ordering a free penetration test (I don't mean random scanning, I mean someone signing up and then playing around), but thanks for the effort anyway.

[shulio]

IMHO even a small profit is good profit, when there isn't a lot of risk.

To the gentleman reading this thread who indirectly sent me a text message: I don't remember ordering a free penetration test (I don't mean random scanning, I mean someone signing up and then playing around), but thanks for the effort anyway.

beware there are alot who target new sites by doing this kinds of extortion, you will either got the threat that your site will be DDOS or whatever, and ask for some btc to stop this, just becareful about this

[bitllionaire]

Does anyone know how could we predict the most likely to happen? or this is just pure luck?

Do research, think critically.  

For example, the current game is work vs school.  More people are affected by work than are affected by school.  In addition to that, when the game starts (4pm PST/7pm EST), way more people will be at work/have work on their mind than will be at school.  So it makes sense that work should win.  However you also have to look at the pools.  There is a lot more money on 'work' than there is on 'school'.  So if you bet on school, you'd win a lot more money than if you'd bet on work.  So if you think something is 50/50, it makes sense to bet on the thing that has the least money in it so you make the most.

where could I research with statistics about twitter?

[cryptworld]

it is amazing the amount of stats that you have, but It is scary to bet without knowing anything about what may happen  

Come on, what's scary in a <$2 bet? :-)

People bet life savings on dice games where it's mathematically guaranteed they will lose in the long run.

Here you get to place a tweet knowing about many different things that influence the outcome, and many times (see the examples above) a simple gut feeling will land you a winning bet.

I'm not a big Twitter user myself but some tweets I run into while reading logs are either funny or informative. The games and the tweet logs are nice to browse sometimes.

Ps. since ~12 hours ago the numbers are updated automatically for live games. Should make it more fun to watch in real time. Also thinking of making a chart or some illustration on game tweets/followers/etc.

In some way you are right    I may throw some bits to your site

[CryForMeSky]

Does anyone know how could we predict the most likely to happen? or this is just pure luck?

Do research, think critically.  

For example, the current game is work vs school.  More people are affected by work than are affected by school.  In addition to that, when the game starts (4pm PST/7pm EST), way more people will be at work/have work on their mind than will be at school.  So it makes sense that work should win.  However you also have to look at the pools.  There is a lot more money on 'work' than there is on 'school'.  So if you bet on school, you'd win a lot more money than if you'd bet on work.  So if you think something is 50/50, it makes sense to bet on the thing that has the least money in it so you make the most.

where could I research with statistics about twitter?

The API is public.  I can't be giving ALL of my secrets away, now can I?

[SyGambler]

Follower of Jesus and Allah !!!

Really lol

[btcfaucet]

Posted some new originals, some clones, done some bugfixes, and created a script so I could quickly add bets on both sides (or at least two different bets) on each upcoming game. Again, a nice sum of BTC is pending in the games and some of them are pretty darn obvious. Whatever isn't very obvious is all that more fun. So why not throw some coin at a fun game?

[btcfaucet]

beware there are alot who target new sites by doing this kinds of extortion, you will either got the threat that your site will be DDOS or whatever, and ask for some btc to stop this, just becareful about this

It's always a possibility. They would be wasting their time though. I always do the dirty work and email all providers taking part in the ddos so whoever aimed it at me may or may not succeed in it, but would definitely lose a few bots/hosts without achieving any results. Or at least not more or funnier results than ddossing any random bitcoin site on the internet.

Paying to terrorists / extortionists is obviously out of the question. Even if the site earned money, but right now it being offline would actually save me coin. I just keep gambling/giving it away with probably losing bets, just to make sure no games get autocancelled

[btcfaucet]

There is 0.82 BTC pending in games right now. Exciting

I will post a bigger bet soon with plenty of time for people to bet on, and I'll up the stakes. Anyone feel like they would play if the minimum bet was say 0.05 BTC and the game was something good?

[pozmu]

There is 0.82 BTC pending in games right now. Exciting

I will post a bigger bet soon with plenty of time for people to bet on, and I'll up the stakes. Anyone feel like they would play if the minimum bet was say 0.05 BTC and the game was something good?

0.05 is too much for me I don't want to lose it all :/
0.02 looks like max I would like to bet with my bankroll which is about 0.1
BTW I don't understand that stats in user area:

Bets: 0.165 BTC, 0.199532 won (121 %)

Almost 0.2 won but my balance, including funds frozen in bets is ~1.3
Am I right that this only includes amount won but doesn't take any loses into account?
That's little misleading...

[superSTAR777]

I was checking the site , design is A ++ just trying to understand the concept and the way it works:)

[btcfaucet]

I was checking the site , design is A ++ just trying to understand the concept and the way it works:)

Oh boy. Every such comment (and there have been many) tells me that I need to make a nifty Youtube video and it will be the ice breaker :-)

Bets: 0.165 BTC, 0.199532 won (121 %)
Almost 0.2 won but my balance, including funds frozen in bets is ~1.3
Am I right that this only includes amount won but doesn't take any loses into account?
That's little misleading...

'Received' was too long. I've changed it to 'paid' just now, so now it's more accurate. I just hope noone is confused and thinks they paid more fees than they bet

What that means is you're basically up by 21%: you bet .165 BTC in so far and got a total payout of 0.199532 BTC in total.


=== I HAVE POSTED NEW GAMES AND NEW BETS ===

=== ONE OF THE GAMES HAS 0.3 BTC IN IT (a true or false game) ===

https://betwitter.com/games

[bitllionaire]

I have tried some bets but it still seems to be very unclear to me on how bets I can do with more chances to win

[btcfaucet]

I will post a quick summary soon on the upcoming games and make a video later.

Currently there is 1.17 BTC total in the pots! Now's the time to play.

[btcfaucet]

Socket.IO & Node.JS for the win. Now there is a live tweet feed shown and the numbers update in realtime (for games currently playing).

[btcfaucet]

Now there is a 'promo coins' feature. It's a subcontainer of your wallet that you can't withdraw but can use for betting and anything that goes back to you goes to the regular bitcoin wallet and is ready to withdraw.

This promo code is for 0.05 BTC:

LUCKY-FCKCXS - 0.05 BTC
LUCKY-CFBFSX - 0.05 BTC

https://betwitter.com/promo

One person / account / ip should only claim one promo code in 24 hours. Thanks for giving everyone else a chance to play for free too

Has someone already claimed the code above?

Use these 0.01 BTC codes:

BTCTALK-XHWBAH - 0.01 BTC
BTCTALK-AFPHEE - 0.01 BTC
BTCTALK-ACSCFW - 0.01 BTC
BTCTALK-XPHRWP - 0.01 BTC

[Grumpster]

Use this!

Code:

BTCTALK-XHWBAH

Only got 0.01btc, not .1?

[btcfaucet]

Use this!

BTCTALK-XHWBAH

Only got 0.01btc, not .1?

The second code was consolation prize in case the first one of 0.05 had been taken. Sorry Updating text now to make it clear.

[btcfaucet]

Here's another 0.01 one: BTCTALK-PRSETA.

I'll keep posting some more and crossing off any used ones, occasionally posting another 0.05

[arallmuus]

Here's another 0.01 one: BTCTALK-PRSETA.

I'll keep posting some more and crossing off any used ones, occasionally posting another 0.05

i've used this one and you can cross this 

Now there is a 'promo coins' feature. It's a subcontainer of your wallet that you can't withdraw but can use for betting and anything that goes back to you goes to the regular bitcoin wallet and is ready to withdraw.

this will be the best no deposit bonus in this entire boards, will the others require a minimum wager before you can withdraw the bonus code, you offer up anything that goes back to us will be available for withdraw, anyway I've put up bet for Bear in bulls or bear, let see the outcome of the game 

[btcfaucet]

Just noticed the 'no promos' topic (sorry). I'll be posting promos in the child board instead from now on:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999408

[shanem]

This is an interesting betting game but I am not good at betting tweets.
Can anyone guide me how to bet to maximise my chance of winning?

[goose20]

This is an interesting betting game but I am not good at betting tweets.
Can anyone guide me how to bet to maximise my chance of winning?

Research and some common sense guesstimate. ..but anything is possible. I.e for the Ireland v Scotland game, is anything happening in the world that would make one  more likely to be tweeted (sports or St Patricks day etc)..

Just give it your best go

[btcfaucet]

This is an interesting betting game but I am not good at betting tweets.
Can anyone guide me how to bet to maximise my chance of winning?

Just surf through the words, check clone games (look for the green 'Show Clones' label at the bottom of games), see what the results were, when the games started, how it relates to U.S. times and events, etc.

Noone's good at this in the beginning, it's a completely new game. It's true for others too. I'm probably the best at it only because I developed the game and my account is currently at 103% (won a little bit). I'm going to get better at it tho. Winning 3% with skill isn't bad either, if more people start playing maybe it will be nice coin.

[jackringer]

I also registered justnow. No new promo codes?

[btcfaucet]

I also registered justnow. No new promo codes?

There's still one in my post that hasn't been crossed off yet. But for any promo stuff please see the other thread. This should be left to BETwitter in general.

[shulio]

hey btcfaucet, could you make the bet not a fixed amount as it has been now? i got a balance less than 0.005 and I cant actually bet because the lowest will be 0.005, it will be better if the player could set up any amount that they wanted to bet instead of putting a fixed amount there

[btcfaucet]

hey btcfaucet, could you make the bet not a fixed amount as it has been now? i got a balance less than 0.005 and I cant actually bet because the lowest will be 0.005, it will be better if the player could set up any amount that they wanted to bet instead of putting a fixed amount there

Everything would need to be rewritten and working way differently for you to be able to bet 'any amount' (even 0.00000001)
The minimum is configurable per game, you can create one that costs 0.001 It's probably easier to withdraw or deposit.

[btcfaucet]

I've posted some free coins in the promo thread

This game looks pretty head to head for now (exciting!):

https://betwitter.com/game/398/statement/family-is-more-important-than-the-job

[btcfaucet]

A new completely creepy and pointless feature: when a game is playing, in the title bar it will (amongst other things) say "Speech [off]"

Click "off" to switch it to "on" and then the tweets are read to you as they come in.

I can imagine this can be used for.... um... as a... party trick maybe? Or if you want your neighbors to move.


https://betwitter.com/game/362/statement/someone-popular-will-talk-about-religion
( if the above game is not playing any more, find one that is currently playing at https://betwitter.com/games )

The promo coin thread is at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999408

[btcfaucet]

The video is ready. I hope this helps to explain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um4FZP78DfQ

[achow101]

The video is ready. I hope this helps to explain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mTKLR3DoqA

Thanks for video I like this presentation 

[toytoboy]

It's difficult to understand.

[btcfaucet]

This is just a quick summary. I guess a separate presentation video explaining the numbers only belongs on the todo list.

Personally I think the concept is easy to understand (we count tweets and followers and bet on stuff) and the there's a /help/game page to explain the very details.

Code:

Tweets = number of tweets (retweets and urls are ignored) - if you post 100 tweets, this number grows by 100
Tweeters = number of unique accounts that posted tweets - if you post 100 tweets, this number grows by 1
Total Followers = number of followers the tweeters had - if you post a tweet (or more tweets) and you have 12 followers, this number grows by 12
Maximum Followers = the biggest number of followers observed on a Twitter account
Average Followers = total followers divided by number of tweeters

[btcfaucet]

New game type added: "SORTER".

Instead of betting on a word or more words, you are betting on the order of words.

For example: https://betwitter.com/game/579/sorter/which-are-the-most-popular-colors

The more words that are in the right position after the game has finished, the higher score you get and the more coins you win.

[shulio]

New game type added: "SORTER".

Instead of betting on a word or more words, you are betting on the order of words.

For example: https://betwitter.com/game/579/sorter/which-are-the-most-popular-colors

The more words that are in the right position after the game has finished, the higher score you get and the more coins you win.

Any update regarding the free no deposit bonus code? it has been a while since you posted them up? it will be great if there is another no deposit bonus code to try out the new game, although i might lose it all in first try lol

[btcfaucet]

he free no deposit bonus code? it has been a while since you posted them up? it will be great if there is another no deposit bonus code to try out the new game, although i might lose it all in first try lol

I've been observing the use of these codes I posted (gave out ~1.5 BTC on the site so far). Pretty much every single time all the coins are spent on the next upcoming game, and the users never even log in, they just get the automatic withdrawal for whatever they win. Some people just claim the promo coins and don't even use them.

I'd be happy to give out some free coins again if it meant some extra players, but realistically my experience after the last ~2 weeks is that people here just want free coins and don't really care about the game itself. I have a 10-20 BTC budget for this. I'll give out a few coins on Reddit. If there's genuine interest there, I'll just share the remaining budget with them. If not, I'll find some other way to spend it on promotion.

The sad part is (and I've mentioned this a bunch of times) that if someone took even 5 seconds to think about how the site works, they would quickly realise that there's much more coins to be gained by playing smart than sweeping any promo codes posted here.

I mean, there's bots posting COMPLETELY RANDOM bets, and the games are never 50-50% chance...

[arallmuus]

I've been observing the use of these codes I posted (gave out ~1.5 BTC on the site so far). Pretty much every single time all the coins are spent on the next upcoming game, and the users never even log in, they just get the automatic withdrawal for whatever they win. Some people just claim the promo coins and don't even use them.

I'd be happy to give out some free coins again if it meant some extra players, but realistically my experience after the last ~2 weeks is that people here just want free coins and don't really care about the game itself. I have a 10-20 BTC budget for this. I'll give out a few coins on Reddit. If there's genuine interest there, I'll just share the remaining budget with them. If not, I'll find some other way to spend it on promotion.

The sad part is (and I've mentioned this a bunch of times) that if someone took even 5 seconds to think about how the site works, they would quickly realise that there's much more coins to be gained by playing smart than sweeping any promo codes posted here.

I mean, there's bots posting COMPLETELY RANDOM bets, and the games are never 50-50% chance...

I've been collecting two codes from you , tried them on the game and I can say the idea is genuine where there are none other sites like BETwitter, whats makes me amazed was the actually the live calculation page from the twitter's feed, so you can actually see a live status of your bet

Problem with your codes is that you allow a withdrawal for every winning using the bonus code, you should apply a wager requirement like atleast 30x so that people could spend some time trying some games before cashing it out

Alternatively , you can try to do some better promotions in games and rounds sections apart from the bonus code, like top wager of the week will get some bonus BTC, or etc, this could actuaclly give your sites some traffic and more user to try it out

[btcfaucet]

Problem with your codes is that you allow a withdrawal for every winning using the bonus code, you should apply a wager requirement like atleast 30x so that people could spend some time trying some games before cashing it out

They already have the chance to try out some games before cashing out, they just choose not to. You're right though, it would probably help, but it'd be too complicated and probably not worth the time to build a wager system to enforce a ratio (but still make sure the users are allowed to spend and withdraw their own coins) just to counteract greedy users.

Alternatively , you can try to do some better promotions in games and rounds sections apart from the bonus code, like top wager of the week will get some bonus BTC, or etc, this could actuaclly give your sites some traffic and more user to try it out

Decent idea. I'll try something like that eventually. Currently I'm giving out higher value codes to ID verified users on my marketplace and will post the link on Reddit (with detailed info) in a few days. We'll see where it goes. For now it's mostly just people saying it's a good idea and not playing. I don't take it to heart though. When I created BitBargain, I was the only seller for months, I had to beg sellers to log online and accept trades. Now it's one of the biggest marketplaces in the UK. I'm not saying BETwitter will definitely become successful, I'm just saying the lack of interest in the beginning doesn't mean much.

[arallmuus]

Problem with your codes is that you allow a withdrawal for every winning using the bonus code, you should apply a wager requirement like atleast 30x so that people could spend some time trying some games before cashing it out

They already have the chance to try out some games before cashing out, they just choose not to. You're right though, it would probably help, but it'd be too complicated and probably not worth the time to build a wager system to enforce a ratio (but still make sure the users are allowed to spend and withdraw their own coins) just to counteract greedy users.

instead of building a wager system that actually takes some time, you could do a manual withdrawal which allow you to check on a user before you initiate their withdrawal , you can easily check the amoun that they have wager

Alternatively , you can try to do some better promotions in games and rounds sections apart from the bonus code, like top wager of the week will get some bonus BTC, or etc, this could actuaclly give your sites some traffic and more user to try it out

Decent idea. I'll try something like that eventually. Currently I'm giving out higher value codes to ID verified users on my marketplace and will post the link on Reddit (with detailed info) in a few days. We'll see where it goes. For now it's mostly just people saying it's a good idea and not playing. I don't take it to heart though. When I created BitBargain, I was the only seller for months, I had to beg sellers to log online and accept trades. Now it's one of the biggest marketplaces in the UK. I'm not saying BETwitter will definitely become successful, I'm just saying the lack of interest in the beginning doesn't mean much.

The lack of interest could be due to that some user found this to be much more complicated than a usual casino sites which provide dice and the other card games, although the new video describe most of how the system work but since this is new and genuine with none other before, some people are actually having trouble to know how this works, and it happened to me before

Alternatively, you could give a code, which the code wont be withdrawable but instead it will give a points if you win the bet, whoever collects the most points ( some kind of leaderboards ) throughout the week , they will get some prize, this will create some traffic throughout the week, consider this like somekind of freerolls in a poker sites to attract players throughout the weeks

[CryForMeSky]

I've been observing the use of these codes I posted (gave out ~1.5 BTC on the site so far). Pretty much every single time all the coins are spent on the next upcoming game, and the users never even log in, they just get the automatic withdrawal for whatever they win. Some people just claim the promo coins and don't even use them.

Not sure if I mentioned this or just alluded to it when I was giving my feedback last month, but giving away the house to random people is a bad idea (as you found out).  People just want free shit, they don't want to play a game.  If you have a budget for promos, the better use of it is to use it to fund promos that encourage participation.  For example, fund a "most wagered" leader-board for a week.

The idea is still great, but as it is now it holds no interest to me.  The bets are so tiny and because of the parimutuel aspect of the site and the low userbase, any bet is basically going to be laying 1:3 or so which is horrible odds.  If there were more people playing, leading to bigger pools it would be great.  Good luck.

[btcfaucet]

The idea is still great, but as it is now it holds no interest to me.  The bets are so tiny and because of the parimutuel aspect of the site and the low userbase, any bet is basically going to be laying 1:3 or so which is horrible odds.  If there were more people playing, leading to bigger pools it would be great.  Good luck.

Thanks for the feedback, it's appreciated.

I would only argue with the 1:3 odds, which I'm not sure how you ended up with.

The worst case scenario would be a game with an unpredictable (50-50%) outcome - and that would still make it better than any dice sites with a house edge.

Odds are basically created by people who place bets, and you know they haven't all done their scientific research, so plenty of times you'll see games where the less likely outcome has the more bets (especially now, with bots posting bets).

Not to mention with some games, the outcome depends not just on the result, but other players' bets. I'm talking about the 'estimate' type of games (where you bet a number) and the 'sorter' type of games where even if you only get one word right in the sorting, you win everyone else's bitcoins if they scored zero.

I'm thinking I will use part of my budget to add more bot votes. I suspect most visitors are like you - it's not worth their time to play just to win small amounts (and you would definitely win considering most bets are posted randomly, by bots).

The only thing I don't get is, how is it worth anyone's time to play anything, when with most typical gambling establishments (dice, blackjack, whatever) the house wins in the long run by definition.

Personally I would much prefer to play on sites where the outcome isn't completely random and I have at least a small chance to play smart, and it's not mathematically predicted that I will be losing in the long run. Sure, maybe I make less per game, but at least I have a chance to stop playing with more money than what I started with.

[CryForMeSky]

I would only argue with the 1:3 odds, which I'm not sure how you ended up with.

The worst case scenario would be a game with an unpredictable (50-50%) outcome - and that would still make it better than any dice sites with a house edge.

Odds =/= chance to win

Let's take the next game, "cats average follower count is higher than number of tweeters".

There is .005 bet on "true" and .005 bet on "false".  Let's assume that there will be no more bets if I make a bet (a fair assumption).

If I bet .005 on "true", I am risking .005 to win .0025.  And then of course the 1% gets taken out of everything.  So I am really risking .005 to win .002425.
I, of course, would have those same odds if I bet on "false". 

So on a pure 50-50 shot, half the time I win .002425 and half the time I lose .005.  That is certainly not better than any dice site.

Of course the equity drops if I want to bet more than the bare minimum, because of the nature of parimutuel betting.  This is where the 1:3 comes from, as I have no interest in betting .005.  Betting any sort of decent amount would give odds of 1:3 or worse, because of the low volume and the fact that you've seeded the pools on both sides.

I'm thinking I will use part of my budget to add more bot votes. I suspect most visitors are like you - it's not worth their time to play just to win small amounts (and you would definitely win considering most bets are posted randomly, by bots).

It would be more attractive if you stopped the bot voting altogether and just seeded the prize pools.  When you place bets on your own game, you are reducing the amount the players can win by ensuring that you always get a cut of the pool.  Instead of betting .1 on one side and .1 on the other, just add .1 to the prize pool (like a pick 6 carryover, or the cherry bonus on bettingblocks)

[CryForMeSky]

You added this as I was making my reply, so I'm sorry for the multiple posts responding:

The only thing I don't get is, how is it worth anyone's time to play anything, when with most typical gambling establishments (dice, blackjack, whatever) the house wins in the long run by definition.

Personally I would much prefer to play on sites where the outcome isn't completely random and I have at least a small chance to play smart, and it's not mathematically predicted that I will be losing in the long run. Sure, maybe I make less per game, but at least I have a chance to stop playing with more money than what I started with.

Entertainment.  Leisure time has value.  That's why casinos are so large and nice.  Because people are willing to lose money in order to have fun, be excited, and have the potential to win big.  It's also why beatable games (poker, sportsbetting) are afterthoughts and add nearly nothing to the bottom line. 

Also, as I mentioned, the way you bet on your own game drops the equity that any bets by the real players would have, making a bunch -ev.

[goose20]

The idea is still great, but as it is now it holds no interest to me.  The bets are so tiny and because of the parimutuel aspect of the site and the low userbase, any bet is basically going to be laying 1:3 or so which is horrible odds.  If there were more people playing, leading to bigger pools it would be great.  Good luck.

Thanks for the feedback, it's appreciated.

I would only argue with the 1:3 odds, which I'm not sure how you ended up with.

The worst case scenario would be a game with an unpredictable (50-50%) outcome - and that would still make it better than any dice sites with a house edge.

Odds are basically created by people who place bets, and you know they haven't all done their scientific research, so plenty of times you'll see games where the less likely outcome has the more bets (especially now, with bots posting bets).

Not to mention with some games, the outcome depends not just on the result, but other players' bets. I'm talking about the 'estimate' type of games (where you bet a number) and the 'sorter' type of games where even if you only get one word right in the sorting, you win everyone else's bitcoins if they scored zero.

I'm thinking I will use part of my budget to add more bot votes. I suspect most visitors are like you - it's not worth their time to play just to win small amounts (and you would definitely win considering most bets are posted randomly, by bots).

The only thing I don't get is, how is it worth anyone's time to play anything, when with most typical gambling establishments (dice, blackjack, whatever) the house wins in the long run by definition.

Personally I would much prefer to play on sites where the outcome isn't completely random and I have at least a small chance to play smart, and it's not mathematically predicted that I will be losing in the long run. Sure, maybe I make less per game, but at least I have a chance to stop playing with more money than what I started with.

CryForMeSky has nailed it with his comments.

I've played on the site, I've won on the site, and i liked the site for a brief period - but it loses its interesting factor quickly. This would  change if there was a larger (much larger) user base. So ive been thinking of how you could attract and KEEP players.

Attracting is easy - you're doing it right - free promos and advertising .

Keeping seems impossible to me. My thoughts:

- btc is used mainly by males - betting on twitter is not exactly 'manly' - not like you'd  be bragging a win over some beers down the pub.
- 2 types of gambling - quick fix/instant gratification (dice, slots, blackjack) or longer skilled based (poker, sports betting) - you're trying to cater to both, but no games are as instant as dice, and most guys I'm sure would rather research sports than tweets/followers - more social interaction in a sporting community.
- and so on...

So with all the other options available to a gambler - i think youll be unable to keep them no matter what you do/offer.
i think you had a good and unique idea - but i dont think it will ever generate the user base needed to make it work. Save the coin you have for your next project.

Just my thoughts. Trying to be helpful.
Good luck.

[btcfaucet]

CryForMeSky has nailed it with his comments.

I've played on the site, I've won on the site, and i liked the site for a brief period - but it loses its interesting factor quickly. This would change if there was a larger (much larger) user base. So ive been thinking of how you could attract and KEEP players.

Attracting is easy - you're doing it right - free promos and advertising .

Keeping seems impossible to me. My thoughts:

- btc is used mainly by males - betting on twitter is not exactly 'manly' - not like you'd  be bragging a win over some beers down the pub.
- 2 types of gambling - quick fix/instant gratification (dice, slots, blackjack) or longer skilled based (poker, sports betting) - you're trying to cater to both, but no games are as instant as dice, and most guys I'm sure would rather research sports than tweets/followers - more social interaction in a sporting community.
- and so on...

So with all the other options available to a gambler - i think youll be unable to keep them no matter what you do/offer.
i think you had a good and unique idea - but i dont think it will ever generate the user base needed to make it work. Save the coin you have for your next project.

Just my thoughts. Trying to be helpful.
Good luck.

Insightful comment, appreciated as always.

You may be right about how it will never work, but after much work invested in this it would be foolish to not even try. So I'm still doing some promos & ads, Reddit post, and most importantly increasing the number of bots, which is similar to a large userbase, only better (for the player) because it's easier to win against bots.

If there isn't a bunch of people using it in a month on a regular basis, I'll give up.

[boopy265420]

CryForMeSky has nailed it with his comments.

I've played on the site, I've won on the site, and i liked the site for a brief period - but it loses its interesting factor quickly. This would change if there was a larger (much larger) user base. So ive been thinking of how you could attract and KEEP players.

Attracting is easy - you're doing it right - free promos and advertising .

Keeping seems impossible to me. My thoughts:

- btc is used mainly by males - betting on twitter is not exactly 'manly' - not like you'd  be bragging a win over some beers down the pub.
- 2 types of gambling - quick fix/instant gratification (dice, slots, blackjack) or longer skilled based (poker, sports betting) - you're trying to cater to both, but no games are as instant as dice, and most guys I'm sure would rather research sports than tweets/followers - more social interaction in a sporting community.
- and so on...

So with all the other options available to a gambler - i think youll be unable to keep them no matter what you do/offer.
i think you had a good and unique idea - but i dont think it will ever generate the user base needed to make it work. Save the coin you have for your next project.

Just my thoughts. Trying to be helpful.
Good luck.

Insightful comment, appreciated as always.

You may be right about how it will never work, but after much work invested in this it would be foolish to not even try. So I'm still doing some promos & ads, Reddit post, and most importantly increasing the number of bots, which is similar to a large userbase, only better (for the player) because it's easier to win against bots.

If there isn't a bunch of people using it in a month on a regular basis, I'll give up.

The betting concept of this site is one of the best and in my opinion it is as fair as possible. All this I am saying because the result of the game can not be influenced by any player with increasing amount of bet or searching information from somewhere. This is purely prediction/gambling game which with better marketing must bring huge traffic and investors to this site.

[arallmuus]

Insightful comment, appreciated as always.

You may be right about how it will never work, but after much work invested in this it would be foolish to not even try. So I'm still doing some promos & ads, Reddit post, and most importantly increasing the number of bots, which is similar to a large userbase, only better (for the player) because it's easier to win against bots.

If there isn't a bunch of people using it in a month on a regular basis, I'll give up.

Giveup just because none is playing? lol you actually got a great sites which none other have, honestly this kind of unique gameplay will be hard to compete here as people tend more to play on a simple dice, consider to bombard the sites with some promotions see how things goes, gambling section is actually hard for newcomer sites

The betting concept of this site is one of the best and in my opinion it is as fair as possible. All this I am saying because the result of the game can not be influenced by any player with increasing amount of bet or searching information from somewhere. This is purely prediction/gambling game which with better marketing must bring huge traffic and investors to this site.

Yes it can, I can use some bots to actually tweet the word which I bet, but I doubt it will have severe effect on the calculation, but still it can be manipulated if someone own huge amount of twitter account

[Frost]

Will you start a signature campaign on Bitcointalk? I am interested!

[CryForMeSky]

I deposited a little bit today to give it another shot and had to just turn around and w/d since it took three confirms to get the funds in my account (which, combined with the "5 minutes of no bets before the contest starts" made me too late to wager) and it seemed like every game on the site is now a "total followers" or "max followers" game.  Those games are pure crapshoots because of the nature of what you are wagering on (one person with a 1mm+ follower count can win it for either side). 

I see that you added more "bot bets", but because they are balanced it is still a horrible deal for the players.  With .02 on one side and .02 on the other, if I wager .02 I'd have to be correct >67% of the time just to break even.  Since most of the games are now much much harder to predict, the game now has a pretty massive house edge, since the house is the only person I'm competing against.

As it is now, it's wildly unprofitable for the first person to start playing on the site, and without one person you can't get two people, four people, ect.  My suggestion would be to not have "bot bets", but instead add funds to the prize pools, much like a pick 6 carryover in horse racing.  If you are unwilling to do this, you should at least pile the "bot bets" up on one selection or the other.