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March 08, 2015, 10:48:24 PM
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Any child with a registered birth certificate is property of the county in which they were born, and therefore property of the state.

Do you actually believe this or are you using hyperbole to make a point?
The birth certificate is literally the creation of a corporate entity known as a person, not to be confused with a human being. By registering your child as a person you enter into a contract with the state under which you voluntarily submit to their regulation and jurisdiction under UCC maritime law. It is a fact of contract law. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation, a for profit entity, so is CPS. Beliefs have nothing to do with it.
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March 08, 2015, 10:56:29 PM
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Any child with a registered birth certificate is property of the county in which they were born, and therefore property of the state.

Do you actually believe this or are you using hyperbole to make a point?
The birth certificate is literally the creation of a corporate entity known as a person, not to be confused with a human being. By registering your child as a person you enter into a contract with the state under which you voluntarily submit to their regulation and jurisdiction under UCC maritime law. It is a fact of contract law. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation, a for profit entity, so is CPS. Beliefs have nothing to do with it.
That's why the name of your strawman is in all caps, just like a corporation.
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March 09, 2015, 01:07:15 AM
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Any child with a registered birth certificate is property of the county in which they were born, and therefore property of the state.

Do you actually believe this or are you using hyperbole to make a point?
The birth certificate is literally the creation of a corporate entity known as a person, not to be confused with a human being. By registering your child as a person you enter into a contract with the state under which you voluntarily submit to their regulation and jurisdiction under UCC maritime law. It is a fact of contract law. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation, a for profit entity, so is CPS. Beliefs have nothing to do with it.

Can you provide any shred of credibility to any of these notions besides your word?

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March 09, 2015, 02:33:20 AM
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Any child with a registered birth certificate is property of the county in which they were born, and therefore property of the state.

Do you actually believe this or are you using hyperbole to make a point?
The birth certificate is literally the creation of a corporate entity known as a person, not to be confused with a human being. By registering your child as a person you enter into a contract with the state under which you voluntarily submit to their regulation and jurisdiction under UCC maritime law. It is a fact of contract law. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation, a for profit entity, so is CPS. Beliefs have nothing to do with it.

Can you provide any shred of credibility to any of these notions besides your word?
Here are some sources that offer more detailed information on the subject.
http://www.cyberclass.net/strawman.htm
http://www.yourstrawman.com/Strawman.pdf
The Freeman and Strawman Explained

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March 09, 2015, 01:29:45 PM
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Any child with a registered birth certificate is property of the county in which they were born, and therefore property of the state.

Do you actually believe this or are you using hyperbole to make a point?
The birth certificate is literally the creation of a corporate entity known as a person, not to be confused with a human being. By registering your child as a person you enter into a contract with the state under which you voluntarily submit to their regulation and jurisdiction under UCC maritime law. It is a fact of contract law. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation, a for profit entity, so is CPS. Beliefs have nothing to do with it.

Can you provide any shred of credibility to any of these notions besides your word?

Do searches for UCC, Maritime Law, contract law, birth certificate bond, etc. I don't care to waste my time trying to spoon feed people because this is a complicated subject not everyone is able (or willing) to grasp. I have been studying it for years and I still have but a superficial understanding of it compared to some people. I suggest you do your own research. If you are really interested in learning about it the information is out there.

People have assumed for many generations that they are ruled by common law, but maritime contract law has usurped pretty much everything because they have found ways to use legalese to trick people into submitting to contracts under color of common law. Think for a moment about all the contracts you sign with your government (aka a corporation), your birth certificate, your social security, taxes, your drivers license, obamacare, any kind of assistance, etc. Each of these is a transaction and an exchange whith responsibilities as well as benefits attached.  If something can be turned into a exchange of value, they can put any abomination into writing as long as you voluntarily agree to it, you are bound to it by international contract law because it takes the form of a commercial exchange.
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March 09, 2015, 07:03:14 PM
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I dont understand whats the big fuss about, couldnt the mother just wait for the testing  to be over and then take her child ?


The point being she didn't want her kid taking the test.  Standardized testing is a joke, I wish more parents would opt their kids out of it.
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March 10, 2015, 08:51:08 PM
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I dont understand whats the big fuss about, couldnt the mother just wait for the testing  to be over and then take her child ?


The point being she didn't want her kid taking the test.  Standardized testing is a joke, I wish more parents would opt their kids out of it.

The picture was a poor example. I've seen some crazy common core methods I disagree with, but what was wrong with this? Do the addition and then make an estimate to see if the answer is reasonable. I suspect the picture is being misrepresented as the students estimate being good enough for an answer.

I use the procedure all the time when deriving equations. Solve the equation and run test cases, (0, infinity, etc), to see if its reasonable. If the mass of the  object comes out to 10^30, there's a mistake. This is the same as using 3 for pi for mental estimates. Its close enough.

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March 10, 2015, 08:59:22 PM
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I dont understand whats the big fuss about, couldnt the mother just wait for the testing  to be over and then take her child ?


The point being she didn't want her kid taking the test.  Standardized testing is a joke, I wish more parents would opt their kids out of it.

The picture was a poor example. I've seen some crazy common core methods I disagree with, but what was wrong with this? Do the addition and then make an estimate to see if the answer is reasonable. I suspect the picture is being misrepresented as the students estimate being good enough for an answer.

I use the procedure all the time when deriving equations. Solve the equation and run test cases, (0, infinity, etc), to see if its reasonable. If the mass of the  object comes out to 10^30, there's a mistake. This is the same as using 3 for pi for mental estimates. Its close enough.


Can you link an image of the test the kid was doing in that story? I'll update the first post. If not then that image is good enough.


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March 12, 2015, 04:12:08 AM
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I dont understand whats the big fuss about, couldnt the mother just wait for the testing  to be over and then take her child ?


The point being she didn't want her kid taking the test.  Standardized testing is a joke, I wish more parents would opt their kids out of it.

The picture was a poor example. I've seen some crazy common core methods I disagree with, but what was wrong with this? Do the addition and then make an estimate to see if the answer is reasonable. I suspect the picture is being misrepresented as the students estimate being good enough for an answer.

I use the procedure all the time when deriving equations. Solve the equation and run test cases, (0, infinity, etc), to see if its reasonable. If the mass of the  object comes out to 10^30, there's a mistake. This is the same as using 3 for pi for mental estimates. Its close enough.


Can you link an image of the test the kid was doing in that story? I'll update the first post. If not then that image is good enough.




Good enough for what? Not making your point. There are countless poor examples online,


If you argument is common core is bad, which I agree with partially, then I'm doing you a favour.

If your argument is the child not being released from school, that has nothing to do with math.

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March 12, 2015, 04:51:30 PM
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I dont understand whats the big fuss about, couldnt the mother just wait for the testing  to be over and then take her child ?


The point being she didn't want her kid taking the test.  Standardized testing is a joke, I wish more parents would opt their kids out of it.

The picture was a poor example. I've seen some crazy common core methods I disagree with, but what was wrong with this? Do the addition and then make an estimate to see if the answer is reasonable. I suspect the picture is being misrepresented as the students estimate being good enough for an answer.

I use the procedure all the time when deriving equations. Solve the equation and run test cases, (0, infinity, etc), to see if its reasonable. If the mass of the  object comes out to 10^30, there's a mistake. This is the same as using 3 for pi for mental estimates. Its close enough.


Can you link an image of the test the kid was doing in that story? I'll update the first post. If not then that image is good enough.




Good enough for what? Not making your point. There are countless poor examples online,


If you argument is common core is bad, which I agree with partially, then I'm doing you a favour.

If your argument is the child not being released from school, that has nothing to do with math.


How do we know the kid was taking only a math test? I did not know common core was ONLY encompassing math, not including geography, history, arts, etc...

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/


For such an image to inspire so much writings makes me believe it was the right choice to illustrate that article...

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March 15, 2015, 02:19:29 AM
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http://www.youngcons.com/beyond-disturbing-look-at-what-a-common-core-approved-book-is-teaching-children-about-barack-obama/



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March 15, 2015, 03:22:38 AM
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I don't disagree with anything in the book. Thank the flying spaghetti monster I don't live in your fucked up country.

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/29/secrets_of_the_right_wing_brain_new_study_proves_it_conservatives_see_a_different_hostile_world/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

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March 15, 2015, 04:26:56 AM
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Among the many misdeeds of sociopathic rule in the US, history will look upon Obama convincing a whole nation that he was black as the whitest.

If a 30-year-old had never seen a photo/video of, or heard a US president speak, they could reasonably infer from their actions that we've had the same sociopathic president for the past 3 decades.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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March 15, 2015, 04:29:06 AM
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My state just got added for common core. I have watched videos of it, and it seems to be making kids dumber. I can see why the parent wants the school to release her child because she probably wants her child to know of the presidents of the United States or the states itself. Stupid common core.
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March 15, 2015, 05:52:22 AM
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What was wrong with common core anyway? I hate government in many area but at this, I think they're doing a reasonable job.

If the mother doesn't like the kid doing common core, she should have picked a different school.
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March 15, 2015, 06:21:01 AM
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What was wrong with common core anyway? I hate government in many area but at this, I think they're doing a reasonable job.

If the mother doesn't like the kid doing common core, she should have picked a different school.

I thought the whole point of the Common in Common Core was that it was supposed to be universal, as in you cannot escape it in any U.S. school once it is fully rolled out. If so, that argument is like saying "Don't like the .gov tyranny in the US? Move to Somalia and accept the tyranny of Somalia.gov!"

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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March 15, 2015, 10:04:04 AM
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This story is a perfect example of the turd in the punch bowl. I researched the story and, whether you agree with the mother or not, she is a trouble maker. If everyone acted like her, you would see a world that looked like a DT comment board.
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March 15, 2015, 02:43:21 PM
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Yes. I agree with you: pushing common core and that terrible terrible 0bama book on children is... Terrible!

Enjoy all your Hollywood block buster movies and TV series, with a nice chilled glass of coke , while surfing facebook on your macbook, from wherever you are...




 
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March 15, 2015, 07:04:06 PM
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What was wrong with common core anyway? I hate government in many area but at this, I think they're doing a reasonable job.

If the mother doesn't like the kid doing common core, she should have picked a different school.

I thought the whole point of the Common in Common Core was that it was supposed to be universal, as in you cannot escape it in any U.S. school once it is fully rolled out. If so, that argument is like saying "Don't like the .gov tyranny in the US? Move to Somalia and accept the tyranny of Somalia.gov!"

Public schools perhaps. Does common core also apply to private/charter/home schooling?

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March 15, 2015, 07:55:58 PM
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What was wrong with common core anyway? I hate government in many area but at this, I think they're doing a reasonable job.

If the mother doesn't like the kid doing common core, she should have picked a different school.

I thought the whole point of the Common in Common Core was that it was supposed to be universal, as in you cannot escape it in any U.S. school once it is fully rolled out. If so, that argument is like saying "Don't like the .gov tyranny in the US? Move to Somalia and accept the tyranny of Somalia.gov!"

Public schools perhaps. Does common core also apply to private/charter/home schooling?

http://www.hslda.org/commoncore/topic7.aspx

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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