Amhash crisis management and co-ordination

[l3sny]

Yes, patience is a practice for the spirit.
Something is telling me that the things are being attended slowly but surely. But this is only my intuition, I hope I am not wrong

[kavellino]

There is now an offer on the table from Havelock to pay our the AMHash contracts at .0003BTC per unit of the AMHash contracts.  Which works out to about 30% of costs.  I don't like it, but it may be the only way to salvage anything from this mess.  Basically you multiply your GHs on AMHash by .0003 and that's how much you would get in payback in BTC.  Or you can wait and see if something better happens.  I think I'm going to take it and move on.

[l3sny]

Absolutely. The problem is whether by taking this offer you are surrendering your rights for the remaining 70%. I think that it would be prudent to make a statement that by accepting the offer we do not resign\waive our rights for the rest of the and we treat is as an interim payment. At the end of the day it will be to a judge to decide if this waiver is binding or not (but I know on the basis of the case law that if you make such a statement all the waivers would be ineffective). In essence you are in a situation that you are forced to accept a solution which you do not like. So same needs to be expressed to avoid any confusion and protect the rights in the future. THis is my common sense approach.

[JorgeStolfi]

The Compleat Scammer Manual advises that, once the victims have passed the stages "shock", "rage", and "despair", the scammer should tell them that he managed to recover 20-30% of the amount lost.  That way, the victims will feel happy, may even thank the scammer and think good of him, and are much less likely to keep hunting for him and for the other 70-80%.

[l3sny]

Perhaps there is a genuine effort to cover some of the losses however there is no need to waive the rights to claim the rest. It is sufficient to communicate this via e-mail to havelock or better also to rockminer and asicminer prior to the transfer. I think we should all take what they are offering and communicate we do not accept the waiver of rights.

[delightcoin]

Perhaps there is a genuine effort to cover some of the losses however there is no need to waive the rights to claim the rest. It is sufficient to communicate this via e-mail to havelock or better also to rockminer and asicminer prior to the transfer. I think we should all take what they are offering and communicate we do not accept the waiver of rights.

We are 4 shareholders and we are not going to accept this joke! We started the diplomatic correspondence with Chinese Embassy and we will put those scammers in jail, where they belong!

[l3sny]

Perhaps there is a genuine effort to cover some of the losses however there is no need to waive the rights to claim the rest. It is sufficient to communicate this via e-mail to havelock or better also to rockminer and asicminer prior to the transfer. I think we should all take what they are offering and communicate we do not accept the waiver of rights.

We are 4 shareholders and we are not going to accept this joke! We started the diplomatic correspondence with Chinese Embassy and we will put those scammers in jail, where they belong!

I do not think it is pragmatic or makes any sense.

[delightcoin]

Perhaps there is a genuine effort to cover some of the losses however there is no need to waive the rights to claim the rest. It is sufficient to communicate this via e-mail to havelock or better also to rockminer and asicminer prior to the transfer. I think we should all take what they are offering and communicate we do not accept the waiver of rights.

We are 4 shareholders and we are not going to accept this joke! We started the diplomatic correspondence with Chinese Embassy and we will put those scammers in jail, where they belong!

I do not think it is pragmatic or makes any sense.

Do you think it is pragmatic to leave all your shares and rights for a quarter of what you invested, even if on the contract of amhash1, it's clearly stated, that if delay happens, amhash buys back at IPO price?

We already started everything and believe me, this is the best for putting light on the whole scenario they came up with. The police will start an investigation and everything will be revealed, the Friedcat story also. And if they were lieing about Friedcat, they will never do any mining, because all of them will be jailed.

[l3sny]

Perhaps there is a genuine effort to cover some of the losses however there is no need to waive the rights to claim the rest. It is sufficient to communicate this via e-mail to havelock or better also to rockminer and asicminer prior to the transfer. I think we should all take what they are offering and communicate we do not accept the waiver of rights.

We are 4 shareholders and we are not going to accept this joke! We started the diplomatic correspondence with Chinese Embassy and we will put those scammers in jail, where they belong!

I do not think it is pragmatic or makes any sense.

Do you think it is pragmatic to leave all your shares and rights for a quarter of what you invested, even if on the contract of amhash1, it's clearly stated, that if delay happens, amhash buys back at IPO price?

How did you came to this conclusion? I do not want to embark on a discussion leading to nowhere.

I want to recover all the assets that are to be recovered. I am absolutely sure that frenetic actions like calling Russian politicians, Chinese Embassy etc. looks chaotic, desperate and ridiculous.  But this is just my opinion you will do whatever you want.

[delightcoin]

Perhaps there is a genuine effort to cover some of the losses however there is no need to waive the rights to claim the rest. It is sufficient to communicate this via e-mail to havelock or better also to rockminer and asicminer prior to the transfer. I think we should all take what they are offering and communicate we do not accept the waiver of rights.

We are 4 shareholders and we are not going to accept this joke! We started the diplomatic correspondence with Chinese Embassy and we will put those scammers in jail, where they belong!

I do not think it is pragmatic or makes any sense.

Do you think it is pragmatic to leave all your shares and rights for a quarter of what you invested, even if on the contract of amhash1, it's clearly stated, that if delay happens, amhash buys back at IPO price?

How did you came to this conclusion? I do not want to embark on a discussion leading to nowhere.

I want to recover all the assets that are to be recovered. I am absolutely sure that frenetic actions like calling Russian politicians, Chinese Embassy etc. looks chaotic, desperate and ridiculous.  But this is just my opinion you will do whatever you want.

Is calling the Embassy of your state really ridiculous, when you get scammed trough a foreign company? If this is your thought, than you have no idea of trade&commerce and how it is done internationally. We invested also in other goods in foreign countries and we experienced in the past very similar scams like this one, but everytime we called the state for help, they helped us and we got our money back everytime. Why shouldn't we trust to our government and state? Are we paying taxes for nothing, so that every Chinese Jackal can scam on us? You are the one who is ridiculous, not we...

[flyingplows]

Don't really understand what are you guys arguing about... We are on the same boat, we can do both - accept the part of the stolen money they offer to return and still proceed with legal action against them. I thought about it and I can say that now I even doubt whether they would even play that AmhashLC (25% compensation) card in court because it's a joke. This kind of shit might be functional in their own schemes - havelock etc... but in any court they would be laughed at. I never saw a case where a thief would state that he owes nothing because he has an agreement which says he returned 1 of 3 stolen cars so he can keep the rest for himself 

[flyingplows]

Any updates or are you ''on hold'' while all this AMHashLC ''compensation'' is going through ?

[l3sny]

We just wait and see how the process is proceeding.