Greece now targets tax evaders! next step cyprus style!

[cuddaloreappu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ce9Z7sktWY

Greece has had to come up with a broad range of ways to increase its income in the wake of the economic crisis.Boosting tax receipts and cuts to public spending were demands laid out by the troika in return for financial support.Al Jazeera's John Psaropoulos reports from Athens.

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[Dogtanian]

I don't think Greece have ever not targeted tax evaders or turned a blind eye to it just like pretty much every other nation doesn't (well, unless you've got connections. And the gov might not be able to take your coins away but they'll try and if they can't they can always lock you up in prison. You've always got to play by their rules sadly.

[1Referee]

Weirder things will happen in Greece. It's just the beginning. People there start to realize that their money isn't safe.

Greece banks are losing hundreds of millions of euro's every week, because people are trying to empty their bank accounts before the Greece government does it for them.

You work your entire life to save yourself a good bit of money and still it's not fully yours.

If was a Greece citizen, then I would definitely dump some of my money into Bitcoin. With Bitcoin you can say "I finally OWN my money!"

[oblivi]

I don't think Greece have ever not targeted tax evaders or turned a blind eye to it just like pretty much every other nation doesn't (well, unless you've got connections. And the gov might not be able to take your coins away but they'll try and if they can't they can always lock you up in prison. You've always got to play by their rules sadly.

Well, if you are using social provided services like social healthcare they you have to pay these taxes. If you are using private services, then they should give the option to not pay said tax.

[Script]

Their problem is far more vast than tax evasion, corruption is rampant also.

[leopard2]

they are halfway into anarchy, which is fine

Greece fakelaki system worked OK before they joined the EUR

there are alot of smaller 3rd world countries comparable to Greece and we don't worry about them, because they are not in the EUR and do not owe other European countries 320 000 000 000 EUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grexit should have been done in 2011  

[countryfree]

I would have hoped the Greek government would focus on wealth creation, but that's clearly not the case. I wouldn't like to be in Greece to start a business.

[ajareselde]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ce9Z7sktWY

Greece has had to come up with a broad range of ways to increase its income in the wake of the economic crisis.Boosting tax receipts and cuts to public spending were demands laid out by the troika in return for financial support.Al Jazeera's John Psaropoulos reports from Athens.

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Just hodl on to your bitcoins!

Why is it so wrong to try to target tax evaders ? Its the right thing to do if your society has rules to which all business owners must provide more or less fair share of their profit for the benefit of society itself?
Leaving tax evaers alone only brings injustice to people that are paying their share fair, so i wouldnt call this robbing the people just yet.
Its positive that they are trying to bring order to their state, its about time, because if they fail to do that, then you will have another Cyprus theft.

cheers

[maku]

They brought this upon themselves really. That is what you get by taking to eurozone country with already bad economy, lot of debt and weak own currency. Euro as currency caused huge increase of prices what in following years made people evade Greece as potential place of interest during trips around the Europe. And now Greek government will probably steal money from everyone's accounts to patch itself and raise the economic rating.

[brekyrself]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ce9Z7sktWY

Greece has had to come up with a broad range of ways to increase its income in the wake of the economic crisis.Boosting tax receipts and cuts to public spending were demands laid out by the troika in return for financial support.Al Jazeera's John Psaropoulos reports from Athens.

This is what bitcoin is all about! the way to save your hard earned money without fear of somebody taking it away!

Just hodl on to your bitcoins!

Why is it so wrong to try to target tax evaders ? Its the right thing to do if your society has rules to which all business owners must provide more or less fair share of their profit for the benefit of society itself?
Leaving tax evaers alone only brings injustice to people that are paying their share fair, so i wouldnt call this robbing the people just yet.
Its positive that they are trying to bring order to their state, its about time, because if they fail to do that, then you will have another Cyprus theft.

cheers

There will always be individuals or companies who attempt to evade taxes, only choice is to reduce this to a reasonable amount.  You also need to ask yourself why are these individuals or companies evading taxes in the first place?  Simply corrupt individuals?  People not happy with government waste?  Or small businesses who CAN NOT survive at the current tax rates and would have to close up shop?

It's a double edge sword and a reasonable balance will need to be found.  On the flip side its sad to see no talk about job creation and what to do with the 50% unemployed under the age of 30.

[Amph]

they should always target tax evaders , no matter the situation, they are just more desperate now, and they need money...

[dinofelis]

There will always be individuals or companies who attempt to evade taxes, only choice is to reduce this to a reasonable amount.  You also need to ask yourself why are these individuals or companies evading taxes in the first place?  Simply corrupt individuals?  People not happy with government waste?  Or small businesses who CAN NOT survive at the current tax rates and would have to close up shop?

It's a double edge sword and a reasonable balance will need to be found.  On the flip side its sad to see no talk about job creation and what to do with the 50% unemployed under the age of 30.

Indeed.  It should be realized that if the state becomes more effective at fighting tax evasion, that corresponds economically to an increase in the effective fiscal pressure, even though the official rates didn't change.

You can see it like this: if in a toy economy, the official tax rate is 20%, but everybody is cheating by a factor of 2, then the effective fiscal pressure is only 10% (it is what is effectively lost by economic agents for consumption and investment to the state).  If the state now does a crack down on all cheaters, and after that, people are not cheating any more, then the fiscal pressure now equals the official fiscal pressure, that is, 20%.  The effective fiscal pressure went up a factor of 2, and people really have less to consume and to invest, even though on paper, our country didn't change a iota to its tax rates.

[manselr]

they should always target tax evaders , no matter the situation, they are just more desperate now, and they need money...

This. Lol at avoiding taxes but then making use of social health care, roads constructed with other tax payeer moneys and so on. It sucks paying taxes but thats how it goes. Not gonna lie when all these filthy rich motherfuckers avoid paying I also feel tempted.

[gentlemand]

Tax evasion sounds like the national sport there. If a culture of non paying develops then a price eventually has to be paid further down the line. That's happening now. It's shit, but taxes ain't for fun. Some of them do go towards creating a functioning country.

[BootstrapCoinDev]

I don't understand how Greek doctors can evade taxes. Do they not have a government organized health care like the other developed European countries, where all money passes either through the government or through regulated insurance companies.

[Bytty]

Tax evasion sounds like the national sport there. If a culture of non paying develops then a price eventually has to be paid further down the line. That's happening now. It's shit, but taxes ain't for fun. Some of them do go towards creating a functioning country.

Not just evading taxes, also playing the system to get subsidies/benefits.

[Eastwind]

Tax evasion sounds like the national sport there. If a culture of non paying develops then a price eventually has to be paid further down the line. That's happening now. It's shit, but taxes ain't for fun. Some of them do go towards creating a functioning country.

Not just evading taxes, also playing the system to get subsidies/benefits.

Richer people have the resources and advisers to play the system.

[BillyBobZorton]

Tax evasion sounds like the national sport there. If a culture of non paying develops then a price eventually has to be paid further down the line. That's happening now. It's shit, but taxes ain't for fun. Some of them do go towards creating a functioning country.

Not just evading taxes, also playing the system to get subsidies/benefits.

Richer people have the resources and advisers to play the system.

This. Richer people (the ones that should be paying taxes) have the resources to find out loopholes, meanwhile people that are born poor scammed by life since day one, are the ones that pay heavier if they try to evade taxes.

[manselr]

It's not nice what the Euro has done to the southern European economies. If you're interested then there are interesting articles about optimal currency zones that should clearly have been held as warnings about exactly this sort of thing. I think it's why the UK stayed out, though apart from an apparent liability for Greek debts, we would actually be in one of the stronger positions, just like Germany is.

[bigtimespaghetti]

It's not nice what the Euro has done to the southern European economies. If you're interested then there are interesting articles about optimal currency zones that should clearly have been held as warnings about exactly this sort of thing. I think it's why the UK stayed out, though apart from an apparent liability for Greek debts, we would actually be in one of the stronger positions, just like Germany is.

UK stayed out thanks to old Maggie T. You're not going to see her praised any time soon for it mind you.

I hope this greek shit show comes to an end this year, it's tiresome to watch. Not to mention it chipping against what I'm paid in EUR!

All the smart money has left Greece- they're done and the sooner that the rest of Europe comes to grip with this the sooner the healing can begin.

Another thing Maggie had to say about socialism... Something about other people's money running out eventually