Account for Rent

[jorjito25]

I Rent a Sr Member Account enrroled in a signature campaign.

Daily payment: 0.0065BTC  (3 posts)
Or
Weekly payment: 0.04BTC

Deposit: 0.3BTC

Deposit will be back when the Rent ends.

Regards!
 

[1714851206]

1714851206

[1714851206]

1714851206

[RCHumphrey]

People must remember to use a trusted escrow in this kind of situation with the deposit. I've seen a lot of people selling accounts for 0.3 BTC so this plus the monthly payment would be a decent profit for a desperate scammer or seller.

And just to say I am not accusing OP of anything, it seems a reasonable idea.

[TriggerX]

Why are you renting your account with the risk of it being scammed? You make more than 0.04 a week by signing up with signature campaigns so it would be useless. From now on, I don't think you can use your account as collateral because people can refer to this post and assume that the account is being rented.

[jorjito25]

People must remember to use a trusted escrow in this kind of situation with the deposit. I've seen a lot of people selling accounts for 0.3 BTC so this plus the monthly payment would be a decent profit for a desperate scammer or seller.

And just to say I am not accusing OP of anything, it seems a reasonable idea.

Im ok using scrow, of course that 0.3 plus 0.16 would be good to sell the account but I would never scam!
Anyway scrow will be the best in this situation.
Regards

[Gyfts]

Who is responsible if the person were to scam a user out of an amount greater than .3 BTC? Or take a loan out? Or even sell the account? These type of things should probably be discussed prior to any deals being done. Good luck.

[jorjito25]

Why are you renting your account with the risk of it being scammed? You make more than 0.04 a week by signing up with signature campaigns so it would be useless. From now on, I don't think you can use your account as collateral because people can refer to this post and assume that the account is being rented.

Well... is not this account, its another one.
I cant post that much so... would be perfect to me if I Rent it.
Regards!!

[jorjito25]

Who is responsible if the person were to scam a user out of an amount greater than .3 BTC? Or take a loan out? Or even sell the account? These type of things should probably be discussed prior to any deals being done. Good luck.

If the account is sold then ill keep the deposit.
About scamming or taking loans u are right!
So the person who Rent the account should have a messege in the pm signature that says Account Rented

[TriggerX]

Why are you renting your account with the risk of it being scammed? You make more than 0.04 a week by signing up with signature campaigns so it would be useless. From now on, I don't think you can use your account as collateral because people can refer to this post and assume that the account is being rented.

Well... is not this account, its another one.
I cant post that much so... would be perfect to me if I Rent it.
Regards!!

Oh that makes more sense to me! Could you provide us with more detail? Does it have positive or negative trust?

[jorjito25]

Why are you renting your account with the risk of it being scammed? You make more than 0.04 a week by signing up with signature campaigns so it would be useless. From now on, I don't think you can use your account as collateral because people can refer to this post and assume that the account is being rented.

Well... is not this account, its another one.
I cant post that much so... would be perfect to me if I Rent it.
Regards!!

Oh that makes more sense to me! Could you provide us with more detail? Does it have positive or negative trust?

Neutral trust.
Enrroled in a signature campaign already.
Only 3 posts a day will pay the Rent.

[Gyfts]

Who is responsible if the person were to scam a user out of an amount greater than .3 BTC? Or take a loan out? Or even sell the account? These type of things should probably be discussed prior to any deals being done. Good luck.

If the account is sold then ill keep the deposit.
About scamming or taking loans u are right!
So the person who Rent the account should have a messege in the pm signature that says Account Rented

I believe this is the correct thing to do as well. If I were you, I would have the bio put as "Account Under Rent". If the renter changes this text at any period during the rent time, the security deposited should be voided.

[jorjito25]

Who is responsible if the person were to scam a user out of an amount greater than .3 BTC? Or take a loan out? Or even sell the account? These type of things should probably be discussed prior to any deals being done. Good luck.

If the account is sold then ill keep the deposit.
About scamming or taking loans u are right!
So the person who Rent the account should have a messege in the pm signature that says Account Rented

I believe this is the correct thing to do as well. If I were you, I would have the bio put as "Account Under Rent". If the renter changes this text at any period during the rent time, the security deposited should be voided.

Yes! I dont know if this idea of renting will work. But seems good to me. 
Lets see what happen.

[BitcoinFr34k]

Who is responsible if the person were to scam a user out of an amount greater than .3 BTC? Or take a loan out? Or even sell the account? These type of things should probably be discussed prior to any deals being done. Good luck.

If the account is sold then ill keep the deposit.
About scamming or taking loans u are right!
So the person who Rent the account should have a messege in the pm signature that says Account Rented

I believe this is the correct thing to do as well. If I were you, I would have the bio put as "Account Under Rent". If the renter changes this text at any period during the rent time, the security deposited should be voided.

I don't think many people would agree to this because many signature campaigns would potentially not accept someone if they are not the original owner. Also you do not have the ability to give default trust negative feedback meaning that if someone were to change the signature then by default others will not see it.

Plus having the signature saying the account is rented means that they would not be able to devote the account to a signature campaign as most campaigns require that only their signature be displayed

[TriggerX]

Who is responsible if the person were to scam a user out of an amount greater than .3 BTC? Or take a loan out? Or even sell the account? These type of things should probably be discussed prior to any deals being done. Good luck.

If the account is sold then ill keep the deposit.
About scamming or taking loans u are right!
So the person who Rent the account should have a messege in the pm signature that says Account Rented

I believe this is the correct thing to do as well. If I were you, I would have the bio put as "Account Under Rent". If the renter changes this text at any period during the rent time, the security deposited should be voided.

I don't think many people would agree to this because many signature campaigns would potentially not accept someone if they are not the original owner. Also you do not have the ability to give default trust negative feedback meaning that if someone were to change the signature then by default others will not see it.

Plus having the signature saying the account is rented means that they would not be able to devote the account to a signature campaign as most campaigns require that only their signature be displayed

The post above me made a great point. If you put account under rent, campaigns will not accept you because you are not the original owner of the account. The highest payout campaign right now is BitX and they are charing 0.0014 for senior members. If you post 3 posts a day for 1 week. It should be 0.0014 times 3 times 7 which is 0.0294 which is not 0.04. Which campaign are you talking about?

[Nerazzura]

I Rent a Sr Member Account enrroled in a signature campaign.

Daily payment: 0.0065BTC  (3 posts)
Or
Weekly payment: 0.04BTC

Deposit: 0.3BTC

Deposit will be back when the Rent ends.

Regards!
 

you should rethink your intentions were. after that you can write down some of the terms or agreements. because this is the first time like this. advice above all a friend can be considered to you

[BitcoinFr34k]

Who is responsible if the person were to scam a user out of an amount greater than .3 BTC? Or take a loan out? Or even sell the account? These type of things should probably be discussed prior to any deals being done. Good luck.

If the account is sold then ill keep the deposit.
About scamming or taking loans u are right!
So the person who Rent the account should have a messege in the pm signature that says Account Rented

I believe this is the correct thing to do as well. If I were you, I would have the bio put as "Account Under Rent". If the renter changes this text at any period during the rent time, the security deposited should be voided.

I don't think many people would agree to this because many signature campaigns would potentially not accept someone if they are not the original owner. Also you do not have the ability to give default trust negative feedback meaning that if someone were to change the signature then by default others will not see it.

Plus having the signature saying the account is rented means that they would not be able to devote the account to a signature campaign as most campaigns require that only their signature be displayed

The post above me made a great point. If you put account under rent, campaigns will not accept you because you are not the original owner of the account. The highest payout campaign right now is BitX and they are charing 0.0014 for senior members. If you post 3 posts a day for 1 week. It should be 0.0014 times 3 times 7 which is 0.0294 which is not 0.04. Which campaign are you talking about?

I have seen marcotheminer reject people from his campaign because they were obviously using a purchased account, this may change somewhat with the autoenrollment. However most signature campaigns do not allow for any of their participants to have anything in their signature field other then the exact signature they are advertising.

[Lorenzo]

The post above me made a great point. If you put account under rent, campaigns will not accept you because you are not the original owner of the account. The highest payout campaign right now is BitX and they are charing 0.0014 for senior members. If you post 3 posts a day for 1 week. It should be 0.0014 times 3 times 7 which is 0.0294 which is not 0.04. Which campaign are you talking about?

BIT-X is the highest paying campaign that pays per post but there are higher paying ones that are smaller, more selective, and have stricter rules. For example, CoinRoyale pays senior members and higher 0.04 BTC for a minimum of 20 posts per week so 3 posts a day for 1 week should be enough. There are others that pay slightly lower than this too including FortuneJack which pays 0.03 BTC for 25 posts a week and OcupyCoin which pays 0.1 BTC for 50 posts a month.

A list of all current signature campaigns can be found here.

[desertfox470]

I don't think that I have ever seen anyone rent a account it is a neat idea, but I can see the account being found pretty easy or someone just jacking the account in general.

[TriggerX]

The post above me made a great point. If you put account under rent, campaigns will not accept you because you are not the original owner of the account. The highest payout campaign right now is BitX and they are charing 0.0014 for senior members. If you post 3 posts a day for 1 week. It should be 0.0014 times 3 times 7 which is 0.0294 which is not 0.04. Which campaign are you talking about?

BIT-X is the highest paying campaign that pays per post but there are higher paying ones that are smaller, more selective, and have stricter rules. For example, CoinRoyale pays senior members and higher 0.04 BTC for a minimum of 20 posts per week so 3 posts a day for 1 week should be enough. There are others that pay slightly lower than this too including FortuneJack which pays 0.03 BTC for 25 posts a week and OcupyCoin which pays 0.1 BTC for 50 posts a month.

A list of all current signature campaigns can be found here.

Based on your above posts CoinRoyale is the only campaign that allows you to earn 0.04 posting three times per day. If this was it, there are many bugs to it.

1. You would have to keep reapplying everytime it gets rented because you have to change the bitcoin address everytime.
2. Since you have to change your address, the signature campaign manager may get suspicious and disqualify you to the campaign
3. If you are caught you could possibly get negative trust on the account and it will be worth less than 0.3 and the OP could default on the loan


Also if OP doesn't sell his account, He may  kicked from the campaign due to inactivity
ALSO, if you earn 0.04 a week and you are getting 0.04 a week you are making no profit. I suggest you just sell the account instead.

[kusumadewi]

I Rent a Sr Member Account enrroled in a signature campaign.

Daily payment: 0.0065BTC  (3 posts)
Or
Weekly payment: 0.04BTC

Deposit: 0.3BTC

Deposit will be back when the Rent ends.

Regards!
 

i'm interested to do this but for now i dont have btc with that amount

[jorjito25]

Well... I just tried!
Looks that its not a good idea.
Then ill keep trying to sell the account.

[Ajatmoralez]

Why anyone will rent an account if he can buy with the 4 weeks of rent amount ??
What if the person posts spams and got banned or got banned because of spams posted in the past ??

[TriggerX]

Why anyone will rent an account if he can buy with the 4 weeks of rent amount ??
What if the person posts spams and got banned or got banned because of spams posted in the past ??

To answer your second question if a person spams, op can just default on the loan and get the 0.3. He'll probably make a rule about it.
For your first reason, I agree with it but sometimes I guess people want to sign up for signature campaign and maybe do some trades at a sr.member so people will take them more seriously.

But OP yeah I suggest you sell the account. How much are you thinking it will cost? I am curious.

[jorjito25]

Why anyone will rent an account if he can buy with the 4 weeks of rent amount ??
What if the person posts spams and got banned or got banned because of spams posted in the past ??

To answer your second question if a person spams, op can just default on the loan and get the 0.3. He'll probably make a rule about it.
For your first reason, I agree with it but sometimes I guess people want to sign up for signature campaign and maybe do some trades at a sr.member so people will take them more seriously.

But OP yeah I suggest you sell the account. How much are you thinking it will cost? I am curious.

Well.. Im trying to sell it. I think that 0.3 will be ok too.
But market is a bit slow right now. That is why I though about renting.

[ianbelada]

hey op if if is enrolled ib a sig campaign and i think it is bitx, why dont you use that sr as your main in posting so you can earn more

[jorjito25]

hey op if if is enrolled ib a sig campaign and i think it is bitx, why dont you use that sr as your main in posting so you can earn more

Becouse I have my own account,  thisone.
And I cannot post with two accounts at the same time.
Thats why...

Edit: Not bitx, u are wrong

[98problems]

hey op if if is enrolled ib a sig campaign and i think it is bitx, why dont you use that sr as your main in posting so you can earn more

maybe he has a lot of accounts and he cant post from all of it so he wants to rent it

[jorjito25]

hey op if if is enrolled ib a sig campaign and i think it is bitx, why dont you use that sr as your main in posting so you can earn more

maybe he has a lot of accounts and he cant post from all of it so he wants to rent it

Yeah! Thats why. Since bit-x its counting unlimited posts. .. Why to post with another account?
Im willing to sell it, to rent it... Whatever.

[98problems]

hey op if if is enrolled ib a sig campaign and i think it is bitx, why dont you use that sr as your main in posting so you can earn more

maybe he has a lot of accounts and he cant post from all of it so he wants to rent it

Yeah! Thats why. Since bit-x its counting unlimited posts. .. Why to post with another account?
Im willing to sell it, to rent it... Whatever.

wouldnt it be better to just sell the accounts from which you dont post? you would get profit

[jorjito25]

hey op if if is enrolled ib a sig campaign and i think it is bitx, why dont you use that sr as your main in posting so you can earn more

maybe he has a lot of accounts and he cant post from all of it so he wants to rent it

Yeah! Thats why. Since bit-x its counting unlimited posts. .. Why to post with another account?
Im willing to sell it, to rent it... Whatever.

wouldnt it be better to just sell the accounts from which you dont post? you would get profit

That is what im trying to do...
Did u read the full thread?  Im not selling this account ( jorjito25)
Im selling or renting another one.
Regards

[Ajatmoralez]

Why anyone will rent an account if he can buy with the 4 weeks of rent amount ??
What if the person posts spams and got banned or got banned because of spams posted in the past ??

To answer your second question if a person spams, op can just default on the loan and get the 0.3. He'll probably make a rule about it.
For your first reason, I agree with it but sometimes I guess people want to sign up for signature campaign and maybe do some trades at a sr.member so people will take them more seriously.

But OP yeah I suggest you sell the account. How much are you thinking it will cost? I am curious.

Well.. Im trying to sell it. I think that 0.3 will be ok too.
But market is a bit slow right now. That is why I though about renting.

But 0.3 Is just too high for a senior member account.
There was a user selling me sr. Member account for 0.15 But i refused to buy it because i have not much time to handle multiple accounts

[jorjito25]

Why anyone will rent an account if he can buy with the 4 weeks of rent amount ??
What if the person posts spams and got banned or got banned because of spams posted in the past ??

To answer your second question if a person spams, op can just default on the loan and get the 0.3. He'll probably make a rule about it.
For your first reason, I agree with it but sometimes I guess people want to sign up for signature campaign and maybe do some trades at a sr.member so people will take them more seriously.

But OP yeah I suggest you sell the account. How much are you thinking it will cost? I am curious.

Well.. Im trying to sell it. I think that 0.3 will be ok too.
But market is a bit slow right now. That is why I though about renting.

But 0.3 Is just too high for a senior member account.
There was a user selling me sr. Member account for 0.15 But i refused to buy it because i have not much time to handle multiple accounts

What about 0.22? Once the rent ends ill give the deposit back.
This is just an idea that I think is good for both...
Regards

[arallmuus]

Before you make this rent thing
Perhaps you should consider open up a discussion about this

I currently found flaw in your system

1. There is slight chance that your account can be sell to another user
2. There is a chance that account will be use to scam, as newbie tend to trust higher rank user
3. Even if you put up a notice that the account is under rent to "X" user, this will disclose the info of the user, thus the chance to be accepted in a sig campaign will be reduce since a sig campaign usually take up only 1 bitcointalk account, ( most of them )

[jorjito25]

Before you make this rent thing
Perhaps you should consider open up a discussion about this

I currently found flaw in your system

1. There is slight chance that your account can be sell to another user
2. There is a chance that account will be use to scam, as newbie tend to trust higher rank user
3. Even if you put up a notice that the account is under rent to "X" user, this will disclose the info of the user, thus the chance to be accepted in a sig campaign will be reduce since a sig campaign usually take up only 1 bitcointalk account, ( most of them )

Thank you.
If the person who Rent it sell the account ill keep the deposit.
If he scams ill keep the deposit ( same thing when someone sell an account to somebody and then he scams ) Nothing u can do...
And for signature campaign u are right,  might dont need to write that the account is under rent.
Regards.

[arallmuus]

Before you make this rent thing
Perhaps you should consider open up a discussion about this

I currently found flaw in your system

1. There is slight chance that your account can be sell to another user
2. There is a chance that account will be use to scam, as newbie tend to trust higher rank user
3. Even if you put up a notice that the account is under rent to "X" user, this will disclose the info of the user, thus the chance to be accepted in a sig campaign will be reduce since a sig campaign usually take up only 1 bitcointalk account, ( most of them )

Thank you.
If the person who Rent it sell the account ill keep the deposit.
If he scams ill keep the deposit ( same thing when someone sell an account to somebody and then he scams ) Nothing u can do...
And for signature campaign u are right,  might dont need to write that the account is under rent.
Regards.

Clearly you are right, infact after understanding it clearly, your method is actually like selling account but you still keep on the account with you, which you can be held responsible if any scam occurs with the account, the #3 can actually be improved by not changing the password, if a user change the password, you keep the deposit
But still i dont think this idea could be implemented for now

[Ajatmoralez]

Before you make this rent thing
Perhaps you should consider open up a discussion about this

I currently found flaw in your system

1. There is slight chance that your account can be sell to another user
2. There is a chance that account will be use to scam, as newbie tend to trust higher rank user
3. Even if you put up a notice that the account is under rent to "X" user, this will disclose the info of the user, thus the chance to be accepted in a sig campaign will be reduce since a sig campaign usually take up only 1 bitcointalk account, ( most of them )

Thank you.
If the person who Rent it sell the account ill keep the deposit.
If he scams ill keep the deposit ( same thing when someone sell an account to somebody and then he scams ) Nothing u can do...
And for signature campaign u are right,  might dont need to write that the account is under rent.
Regards.

Clearly you are right, infact after understanding it clearly, your method is actually like selling account but you still keep on the account with you, which you can be held responsible if any scam occurs with the account, the #3 can actually be improved by not changing the password, if a user change the password, you keep the deposit
But still i dont think this idea could be implemented for now

But still that is a risk for the user who rent that account. What if the account gets blocked because of the spam posts made in the past before make it available for rent ??
So thats again a risk. You should better sell it instead

[jorjito25]

Yes I prefer to sell it I hope to find a buyer. But seems that its not easy...
Im really want to get rid of it.
Regards

[Quickseller]

If you are requiring such a large deposit then why would someone not just but the accoubt outright from you? Anyone considering doing this would need to rent it for at least a week in order to potebtially get payment from a signature campaign and they could buy it for not very much more then .34 btc. (The deposit plus one weeks rent)

[Nerazzura]

Why anyone will rent an account if he can buy with the 4 weeks of rent amount ??
What if the person posts spams and got banned or got banned because of spams posted in the past ??

To answer your second question if a person spams, op can just default on the loan and get the 0.3. He'll probably make a rule about it.
For your first reason, I agree with it but sometimes I guess people want to sign up for signature campaign and maybe do some trades at a sr.member so people will take them more seriously.

But OP yeah I suggest you sell the account. How much are you thinking it will cost? I am curious.

Well.. Im trying to sell it. I think that 0.3 will be ok too.
But market is a bit slow right now. That is why I though about renting.

But 0.3 Is just too high for a senior member account.
There was a user selling me sr. Member account for 0.15 But i refused to buy it because i have not much time to handle multiple accounts

0.3 I think it's a pretty decent price. Because you can get that amount or more in 1 month or more quickly with the signature campaign. 0.15 it is not feasible