pawel7777
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November 04, 2015, 09:15:32 AM |
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Something wrong with your math mate, 0.0014*31 should be 0.0434 Corrected. Thanks. Wanxinxi must made a decision to adjust his expense for increased bitcoin. Since I'm just manage the campaign , I'm just able to calculate campaign's rate based on his decision. May I offer a solution that I see from magicaldice at the moment?
They halted any new posts and are counting right now. They pay those posts with the old rate and once that has been handled, the new period starts with the new rate.
I understand funds are scarce, but people have been posting four days with the impression of earning a specific amount, and that is now suddenly changed.
It was unavoidable to change the rates, but current way is not the way to do it.
Will pass this for my Boss No pal. You are capable of making your own decision and to take responsibility for your actions. As a manager you act as middle ground between OP and participants, and you should act fairly to both. Reducing rates for posts already made is nothing but a fraud. You're responsible for maintaining spreadsheet and it's up to you whether you put correct, agreed rates (0.0014 for Heroes) or whether you want to be a part of the fraud. Can you imagine reversed situation, when BTC price goes down and participants demand higher rates?
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xinzark
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November 04, 2015, 09:21:03 AM |
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Something wrong with your math mate, 0.0014*31 should be 0.0434 Corrected. Thanks. Wanxinxi must made a decision to adjust his expense for increased bitcoin. Since I'm just manage the campaign , I'm just able to calculate campaign's rate based on his decision. May I offer a solution that I see from magicaldice at the moment?
They halted any new posts and are counting right now. They pay those posts with the old rate and once that has been handled, the new period starts with the new rate.
I understand funds are scarce, but people have been posting four days with the impression of earning a specific amount, and that is now suddenly changed.
It was unavoidable to change the rates, but current way is not the way to do it.
Will pass this for my Boss No pal. You are capable of making your own decision and to take responsibility for your actions. As a manager you act as middle ground between OP and participants, and you should act fairly to both. Reducing rates for posts already made is nothing but a fraud. You're responsible for maintaining spreadsheet and it's up to you whether you put correct, agreed rates (0.0014 for Heroes) or whether you want to be a part of the fraud. Can you imagine reversed situation, when BTC price goes down and participants demand higher rates? I agree. This is totally unimaginable situation. Op can't change the pay rates in the middle of the campaign And we are also relying on izanagi because we trusted you and we still trust you Hope the problem gets solved
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nydiacaskey01
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November 04, 2015, 09:23:00 AM |
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Something wrong with your math mate, 0.0014*31 should be 0.0434 Corrected. Thanks. Wanxinxi must made a decision to adjust his expense for increased bitcoin. Since I'm just manage the campaign , I'm just able to calculate campaign's rate based on his decision. May I offer a solution that I see from magicaldice at the moment?
They halted any new posts and are counting right now. They pay those posts with the old rate and once that has been handled, the new period starts with the new rate.
I understand funds are scarce, but people have been posting four days with the impression of earning a specific amount, and that is now suddenly changed.
It was unavoidable to change the rates, but current way is not the way to do it.
Will pass this for my Boss No pal. You are capable of making your own decision and to take responsibility for your actions. As a manager you act as middle ground between OP and participants, and you should act fairly to both. Reducing rates for posts already made is nothing but a fraud. You're responsible for maintaining spreadsheet and it's up to you whether you put correct, agreed rates (0.0014 for Heroes) or whether you want to be a part of the fraud. Can you imagine reversed situation, when BTC price goes down and participants demand higher rates? I agree. This is totally unimaginable situation. Op can't change the pay rates in the middle of the campaign And we are also relying on izanagi because we trusted you and we still trust you Hope the problem gets solved They do what Magical Dice just did today. Paused the Signature campaign and start counting the posts so they can still pay same rate. After that they will post the new rates.
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pawel7777
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November 04, 2015, 09:35:46 AM |
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They do what Magical Dice just did today. Paused the Signature campaign and start counting the posts so they can still pay same rate. After that they will post the new rates.
And that's somewhat acceptable way. Still not OK to change the rules during the on-going period, but at least they pay correctly for the post already made. But is the campaign organisers' responsibility to make sure they have sufficient funds before each period starts. Otherwise they could just pay you whatever they feel like each week. ps. Are there any funds in escrow (devthedev)?
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xinzark
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November 04, 2015, 09:40:28 AM |
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They do what Magical Dice just did today. Paused the Signature campaign and start counting the posts so they can still pay same rate. After that they will post the new rates.
And that's somewhat acceptable way. Still not OK to change the rules during the on-going period, but at least they pay correctly for the post already made. But is the campaign organisers' responsibility to make sure they have sufficient funds before each period starts. Otherwise they could just pay you whatever they feel like each week. ps. Are there any funds in escrow (devthedev)? No they haven't any funds in escrow. Everyone joined because of trust which is now a Garbage
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shorena
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No I dont escrow anymore.
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November 04, 2015, 09:50:53 AM |
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Hi guys, yeah, I understand that it's my fault that I did not inform you earlier. But our budget is very limited, we cannot afford such high payment. Please understand.
Will you be paying us the old rate or the new rate for this week? I am afraid that we can only pay you the new rate for this week. If I leave now, will I receive my pay for the 4 days I posted with this campaign or will I be forfeiting all of it? Please inform the campaign manager to count the posts before you leave. Otherwise, we cannot track the posts that you made. I hereby do this Post count: 6001 (exluding this) proof: https://archive.is/OhiIP (time and date, top right)
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Alvin Fahriza
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November 04, 2015, 09:57:22 AM Last edit: November 09, 2015, 06:56:38 AM by Alvin Fahriza |
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Hi guys, yeah, I understand that it's my fault that I did not inform you earlier. But our budget is very limited, we cannot afford such high payment. Please understand.
Will you be paying us the old rate or the new rate for this week? I am afraid that we can only pay you the new rate for this week. If I leave now, will I receive my pay for the 4 days I posted with this campaign or will I be forfeiting all of it? Please inform the campaign manager to count the posts before you leave. Otherwise, we cannot track the posts that you made. I hereby do this Post count: 6001 (exluding this) proof: https://archive.is/OhiIP (time and date, top right) I want to leave from this campaign also Total Post : 1744 - 1774(without this one) Proof: https://i.imgur.com/IW0xsDD.jpg
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minifrij
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In Memory of Zepher
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November 04, 2015, 09:58:16 AM |
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I would also like to leave this campaign, I apologize. Final Posts: 1376 Proof: https://archive.is/zc4d2
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favdesu
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November 04, 2015, 09:58:43 AM |
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there should be a hero spot free now for me? (changed my sig accordingly)
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wangxinxi (OP)
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November 04, 2015, 10:14:54 AM Last edit: November 04, 2015, 10:25:36 AM by wangxinxi |
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OK, you guys will still be paid with the old rate for the posts done in the past before I announced the new rate.
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pawel7777
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November 04, 2015, 10:19:49 AM |
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OK, you guys will still paid with the old rate for the posts done in the past before I announce the new rate.
Fine. Glad you made a good decision. Any estimated time you'll be making the payments? Within a week from today or sooner?
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teddy5145
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November 04, 2015, 11:00:31 AM |
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Hi guys, yeah, I understand that it's my fault that I did not inform you earlier. But our budget is very limited, we cannot afford such high payment. Please understand.
Will you be paying us the old rate or the new rate for this week? I am afraid that we can only pay you the new rate for this week. If I leave now, will I receive my pay for the 4 days I posted with this campaign or will I be forfeiting all of it? Please inform the campaign manager to count the posts before you leave. Otherwise, we cannot track the posts that you made. It's been great but i need to leave I can't stand the new payment, no offense I have 648 post up to this point (Including this one) Once again i wanted to say thank you for wanxixi and Coinut for giving me a chance in this high paying campaign Wish you all luck in the future
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RichBC
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November 04, 2015, 11:14:53 AM |
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OK, you guys will still be paid with the old rate for the posts done in the past before I announced the new rate.
Good decision. I look forward to receiving the payment for posts made up until removing myself from the Campaign, as covered in my earlier post. As others have said it is completely unacceptable to change the rate for the current Campaign period. Also do not understand why you cannot afford to Pay? Surely you have bought BTC ahead to cover costs and the Coinuit Exchange that is paying for this Campaign is denominated in BTC, so the Dollar exchange rate is irrelevant.
This will also be my last post carrying the Coinuit Signature.
Post Count at the beginning of this period 559 Post Count Now 579
I think you would be wise to make payments at the Rates in Play at the start of this period, otherwise I can see you picking up a lot of Negative Trust and people will be calling in the Escrow for the balance of payment.
Please let us know when payment is made? Many Thanks Rich
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siameze
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November 04, 2015, 11:31:16 AM |
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Hi guys, due to the recent price changes, we just changed our rate. Last weeks' payment will be done soon.
While I understand some adjustment may be required with current price change, it is very strange to adjust the rates in the middle of a running campaign week. I fully expect the rates to change only after this weeks end and start from next week on. Exactly. You can't change it in the middle of the week, that would be breach of agreement. P's. You can count me out from next week with those rates. I'll carry on for this week and expect to be paid at agreed rate. Exactly. You must have to provide notice before the Start of the week or so. You can't change rates in the middle of the week. 4 days already gone in this week excluding today So just think about it change rates if you wanted to after the end of this week Or not then pay my previous week and this week 4 day payment and I will leave because payout rates dropped by a big 40% That will certainly make a lot of people unhappy. I am waiting to speak with someone but may have to change my feedback from positive to neutral, it isn't good business to make up rules on the fly. If you do this in your signature campaign, can people trust that you won't "adjust" their BTC withdrawls from the exchange one day at your leisure ?
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pawel7777
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November 04, 2015, 11:40:17 AM |
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That will certainly make a lot of people unhappy. I am waiting to speak with someone but may have to change my feedback from positive to neutral, it isn't good business to make up rules on the fly. If you do this in your signature campaign, can people trust that you won't "adjust" their BTC withdrawls from the exchange one day at your leisure ?
They already agreed to pay at the old rate for the posts already made. OK, you guys will still be paid with the old rate for the posts done in the past before I announced the new rate.
But yes, this whole situation leaves a bad taste.
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NorrisK
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November 04, 2015, 12:28:15 PM |
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I'm glad this was resolved in a fair and fast manner!
Everybody should understand that the rates will be lower on all campaigns next week, as price has almost doubled.
By using the new rate for posts after the announcement, it is handled fairly.
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siameze
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November 04, 2015, 12:36:46 PM |
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That will certainly make a lot of people unhappy. I am waiting to speak with someone but may have to change my feedback from positive to neutral, it isn't good business to make up rules on the fly. If you do this in your signature campaign, can people trust that you won't "adjust" their BTC withdrawls from the exchange one day at your leisure ?
They already agreed to pay at the old rate for the posts already made. OK, you guys will still be paid with the old rate for the posts done in the past before I announced the new rate.
But yes, this whole situation leaves a bad taste. Yes good to see this resolved, I just received email in my coinut account. Thank you all for your continued good management.
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November 04, 2015, 03:52:22 PM Last edit: November 04, 2015, 04:05:46 PM by neurotypical |
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Hi, it is great that it got resolved in a good way.
I don't understand what will happen with current term tho. Is the current term going to be paid in the old rate? On what day does the new rate begin?
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NorrisK
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November 04, 2015, 04:14:57 PM |
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Hi, it is great that it got resolved in a good way.
I don't understand what will happen with current term tho. Is the current term going to be paid in the old rate? On what day does the new rate begin?
The new rate starts from the moment he posted the rate change. When posts are counted, a part gets paid old rate and a part gets paid the new rate.
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