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March 18, 2015, 09:53:04 AM
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A non-government institution are trying to do what NASA or China can't do, the results can only be failed.

I don't believe for a second they can't do it...

They just don't want to budget for it.

Yes, it's costly, even a government can't afford it, Apollo Project took 25.5 billions(not adjusted for inflation) in total, this could be even more.

And the theories and technologies of Mars landing and living need to be verified first before sending people to space.
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March 18, 2015, 11:05:03 AM
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“When you join the ‘Mars One Community,’ which happens automatically if you applied as a candidate, they start giving you points,” Roche explained to me in an email. “You get points for getting through each round of the selection process (but just an arbitrary number of points, not anything to do with ranking), and then the only way to get more points is to buy merchandise from Mars One or to donate money to them.”

Yeah, sure sounds like a scam  Grin

I've said it was a scam from the start. No idea how he even thought he could get away with this but I'm guessing he's got the free publicity and a little in donations and crowd funding but the question is has he done anything ilegal? Looks like it to me. Hope he gets investigated and taken down. The people who applied to this probably have some sort of mental issues as well... or are probably just really dumb or fame hungry.
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March 18, 2015, 04:16:56 PM
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Shit. I mean lol but there're real candidates who bet their lives on that project  Sad
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March 18, 2015, 10:37:16 PM
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Shit. I mean lol but there're real candidates who bet their lives on that project  Sad
Does not really matter.  There are a lot of questions about whether man can live on mars.  For example, the dirt is similar to bleach, it is an oxidizer.  So what happens if you get it on you?  You get rashes.  What happens if it gets in your lungs?  So forth and so on.

I think some animal tests would be in order, plunk them down on the Red Planet with some months of supplies and a test program.  At the end of the test period, they would be killed - if they lived that long.   Anyone who says that's not practical because of the long trip to get there better back off and think about how that applies even more strongly to humans.
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March 18, 2015, 10:56:30 PM
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Shit. I mean lol but there're real candidates who bet their lives on that project  Sad
Does not really matter.  There are a lot of questions about whether man can live on mars.  For example, the dirt is similar to bleach, it is an oxidizer.  So what happens if you get it on you?  You get rashes.  What happens if it gets in your lungs?  So forth and so on.

I think some animal tests would be in order, plunk them down on the Red Planet with some months of supplies and a test program.  At the end of the test period, they would be killed - if they lived that long.   Anyone who says that's not practical because of the long trip to get there better back off and think about how that applies even more strongly to humans.
No, testing Mars with animals is not good. If we could afford to transport animals to Mars we can do it with humans at the same price probably.
And while this mission may be suicidal - but truth to be told everyone signing for this kind of adventure know they may not live long.
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March 18, 2015, 11:50:30 PM
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I don't think the technology is there yet to fully sustain life on mars but hey maybe we can in a few hundred years.

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March 19, 2015, 12:24:27 AM
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Well, I seriously doubt that technology and money will be available any time soon to get men safely to the planet Mars  Grin

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March 19, 2015, 07:33:42 PM
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I saw somewhere that they believe the rating for the "Mars One" reality show is supposed to have more viewers than 10 olympics combined.

It is a money grab and nothing else.

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March 19, 2015, 08:07:19 PM
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Shit. I mean lol but there're real candidates who bet their lives on that project  Sad

Well at least they're not going to die in alone in space now, but I don't have any sympathy for them on any time or money they may have wasted on this project. I've said it was a scam since day dot.
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March 20, 2015, 07:27:58 AM
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https://medium.com/matter/mars-one-insider-quits-dangerously-flawed-project-2dfef95217d3

No money, no process, no explanation: An insider speaks out on the hopelessly flawed scheme.

Dr Joseph Roche is one of the finalists to go on Mars One's much-hyped mission to the Red Planet. And yet he says he's never had an in-person interview, had to organize his own physical exam, was only tested on prepared questions, and is being encouraged to give more and more money to the group. That's why he's decided to quit.

Mars One is a scam. LOL, it was obvious from the very beginning.
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March 22, 2015, 03:02:30 AM
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lol

They have delayed their timetable by two years, stating "insufficient investors".   Roll Eyes

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March 22, 2015, 04:00:46 AM
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Shit. I mean lol but there're real candidates who bet their lives on that project  Sad
Does not really matter.  There are a lot of questions about whether man can live on mars.  For example, the dirt is similar to bleach, it is an oxidizer.  So what happens if you get it on you?  You get rashes.  What happens if it gets in your lungs?  So forth and so on.

I think some animal tests would be in order, plunk them down on the Red Planet with some months of supplies and a test program.  At the end of the test period, they would be killed - if they lived that long.   Anyone who says that's not practical because of the long trip to get there better back off and think about how that applies even more strongly to humans.
No, testing Mars with animals is not good. If we could afford to transport animals to Mars we can do it with humans at the same price probably.
And while this mission may be suicidal - but truth to be told everyone signing for this kind of adventure know they may not live long.
Testing Mars with animals certainly is good.  Number of reasons for this.

First of all, understand that these animals will die.  Just like the early space tests with dogs and monkeys.  The animals will not be brought back to Earth.  This is no big deal in the grand scheme of things.

The big advantage is that one of the hibernating animal species could be used, such as marmots, ground squirrels, praire dogs.  This means they would be asleep during the transit to Mars.   We know from LEO operations with humans how humans do for six or eight months in weightlessness, that is not an issue.  The questions have to do with sustaining life on the surface of Mars.

After their arrival a number of useful tests could be ran on the animals.  Possibly food, water and breathing air could be provided for a year or so.  They'd be split into a number of test cells.  Some might have the local surface dirt injected into their environment, others might be exposed to the direct sun rays.
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March 24, 2015, 05:39:20 PM
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Something tells me this is going to take a lot longer than two years to materialize. I'd really love to know what their true intentions were behind this. Was it just to scam some money out of people or does he actually believe this could have been possible had it got the funding? One thing I do believe is that he's done it for the publicity whether to scam or just feed his ego or fantasy.
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March 24, 2015, 06:07:35 PM
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Well, I seriously doubt that technology and money will be available any time soon to get men safely to the planet Mars  Grin

Money comes from the printer. We would have the technology already but space programs being cut
and all money spent on weapons and surveillance.
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March 24, 2015, 06:51:31 PM
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Well, I seriously doubt that technology and money will be available any time soon to get men safely to the planet Mars  Grin

Money comes from the printer.

But that causes inflation. I don't think it would be wise to affect the world economy so that a reality show can happen in other planet.

If there will be any actual research, then it should be done properly.

An economy based on endless growth is unsustainable.
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March 24, 2015, 07:07:24 PM
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Well, I seriously doubt that technology and money will be available any time soon to get men safely to the planet Mars  Grin

Money comes from the printer.

But that causes inflation. I don't think it would be wise to affect the world economy so that a reality show can happen in other planet.

Doesn't seem to stop them... just look at quantitative easing, though there's not much money to be made from space exploration and it's very costly with little financial reward and america would just like to pump up their defense budget every year where they can make money for corporations on costly wars.
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March 24, 2015, 07:49:51 PM
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As soon as I seen the application fees of 40 dollars I knew, you weren't picking astronauts, you were sucking people out of their money.
About 8-10 million worth, not even enough to build 1% of a rocket, let alone launch one into orbit.
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March 24, 2015, 08:12:08 PM
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OMG they were able to raised $1m+, such a terrible way to scam people.
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March 25, 2015, 10:45:20 AM
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It would be the greatest achievement in the history of man kind if it does but i doubt it will happen. I'd have more respect if they where using proper astronauts and scientist instead of making it a competition.
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March 25, 2015, 11:02:03 AM
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Well, I seriously doubt that technology and money will be available any time soon to get men safely to the planet Mars  Grin

Money comes from the printer. We would have the technology already but space programs being cut
and all money spent on weapons and surveillance.

Yes, I believe world military expenditure amounts to something like 1.5 Trillion dollars per year.And the death and suffering and destruction that this causes is incalculable. What a tragic waste.

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