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March 17, 2015, 11:56:33 PM
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I don't see anything strange in the games,with  2.5x is not so difficult to have that situation
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March 18, 2015, 12:07:46 AM
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losing 16 in a row is normal even if you are betting on x2
thats why martinagle sucks

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March 18, 2015, 12:20:56 AM
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Hey Stunna,

I'm doing my best to stay professional here. We know the facts: there's a house edge, you get alot of volume, but also all players hit weird streaks much more and weirdly often than other websites. That's a fact. As Ryan said, the provably fair system doesn't "100%" prove it to be fair.

Another weird suspicion is how Primedice 3 took almost half year to come out with. I remember PD3 being talked about in early January 2014 actually. Nothing changed except tips and the layout. The rolls also got slower. I think that's it. So, what took you guys so long? Just making the new layout? I don't think so, I think you kept delaying and delaying because of my accusation. Something's changed and I know it.

I told you, I lose on Primedice almost everyday. I'll keep uploading screenshots day after day to prove something. I'm still waiting for someone to prove this right, but you're smart enough to hide it well.

Don't get me wrong, I've seen tons of threads like the "lost 1 btc, PD is rigged". This is something I'm seeing overtime.

If I could prove that PD is a scam the same way that DiceBit got caught, then PD would be shutdown already. But you made it sneakier so there's no valid way to prove me right besides the crazy amount of loss streaks.
Now I'm really convinced you are butthurt after you lost. DiceBit skipped nonce which was obviously a scam. Primedice didnt skip nonce and everything checks out there are people who checks everything to make sure its fair. There are people who verify every single bet and no problems were found. If you have no evidence, please don't accuse Primedice of doing such things. You ain't gonna see happy faces on everyone when they come out of a real life casino.

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March 18, 2015, 02:58:20 AM
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I'm doing my best to stay professional here. We know the facts: there's a house edge, you get alot of volume, but also all players hit weird streaks much more and weirdly often than other websites. That's a fact. As Ryan said, the provably fair system doesn't "100%" prove it to be fair.

I believe you misunderstood my point. PD has done its part by making the site provably fair, now the onus is on you to catch them cheating.


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Another weird suspicion is how Primedice 3 took almost half year to come out with. I remember PD3 being talked about in early January 2014 actually. Nothing changed except tips and the layout. The rolls also got slower. I think that's it. So, what took you guys so long? Just making the new layout?

This is a weird line of reasoning.

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I don't think so, I think you kept delaying and delaying because of my accusation. Something's changed and I know it.
I'm sure you mean well, but you can't trust yourself. The brain is deceiving and notoriously bad at this sort of stuff. It sees patterns were there are none, and misses the statistically blindingly obvious things. You need to do some real statistical analysis before you can rule either way.

Do yourself (and PD) a favor, and dig into the technical details of the provably fair scheme and try prove they are cheating. If you can't prove they're cheating, they're probably honest.
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March 18, 2015, 03:06:26 AM
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You really could as well close this thread, OP. You won't get anywhere without proof and the longer you continue this discussion the more PD supporters will leave their positive opinions, so you'll be indirectly promoting them. I for instance had a bigger losing streak than you, but you can also find people with 10 or more wins in a row.

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March 18, 2015, 03:10:14 AM
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Haha you know what's funny. Added a dude on Skype and was also complaining about it being rigged. Keep in mind he is positive alot and recently won 2 BTC from 0.05. Never experienced losses but still says:

"cuz we all know its rigged af"

Isn't that funny?
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March 18, 2015, 03:12:49 AM
Last edit: March 18, 2015, 03:32:20 AM by dude_threat
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you have to be kidding right? an 11 lose streak at %40.....
http://prntscr.com/6i64nn
sorry i dont ever count reds but 11 is nothing
that was from faucet btw
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March 18, 2015, 03:15:30 AM
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Primedice is very legit.
I have had winning streaks on PD that lasted over 7 days.  (~1.25 hours average playing per day)
You need to know how to start slow and control the risk.

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March 18, 2015, 03:17:29 AM
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Primedice is very legit.
I have had winning streaks on PD that lasted over 7 days.  (~1.25 hours average playing per day)
You need to know how to start slow and control the risk.

No, you have nothing to prove it's legit. Maybe if Primedice was open source or something we could prove it right/wrong but we all know that's not happening.
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March 18, 2015, 03:26:10 AM
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I told you, I lose on Primedice almost everyday. I'll keep uploading screenshots day after day to prove something. I'm still waiting for someone to prove this right, but you're smart enough to hide it well.

Don't get me wrong, I've seen tons of threads like the "lost 1 btc, PD is rigged". This is something I'm seeing overtime.

If I could prove that PD is a scam the same way that DiceBit got caught, then PD would be shutdown already. But you made it sneakier so there's no valid way to prove me right besides the crazy amount of loss streaks.

The rolls are verifiable, so unless you can prove otherwise, there is no point in saying a site is rigged just because you were unlucky and you got huge loss streaks.

Also, if a site is unlucky for you, it's best to not visit it everyday and try something else. I feel lucky when I play at some sites, at others I don't feel too lucky and I lose but that doesn't mean that those sites are rigged.

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March 18, 2015, 03:36:33 AM
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I am going to keep playing on Primedice to prove my point.
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March 18, 2015, 03:41:01 AM
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Actually you should use "switch strategy", why did you always bet one side? You should change your luck actually. I used it and made a 40X profits about 6000 USD from that strategy.

Switch strategy: if you win, bet the same side next time, if you lose, bet the other side next time.

BTW, if you think PD is rigged, I have a good site for you, dadice. Just click my signature to play, no registration needed. Wish you have good luck. Wink
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March 18, 2015, 03:46:03 AM
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I am going to keep playing on Primedice to prove my point.

You're free to do as you wish. But Gamblers lose money in casinos around the world everyday, the only point it proves is that gambling is risky and should be done with only the money you can afford to lose.

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March 18, 2015, 05:55:00 AM
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I am going to keep playing on Primedice to prove my point.

You're free to do as you wish. But Gamblers lose money in casinos around the world everyday, the only point it proves is that gambling is risky and should be done with only the money you can afford to lose.
I am afraid that this is the case here. If he would provide proof better than just screen with ten bets lose streak it would be huge. But for now lets settle with 'bad luck' fucked him over.

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March 18, 2015, 07:33:15 AM
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Primedice is very legit.
I have had winning streaks on PD that lasted over 7 days.  (~1.25 hours average playing per day)
You need to know how to start slow and control the risk.

No, you have nothing to prove it's legit. Maybe if Primedice was open source or something we could prove it right/wrong but we all know that's not happening.
So you are saying Stunna should make it opensourced so many sites can copy their design and scam people? Primedice is already pretty transparent enough for people to believe that they aren't cheating. What's the use of opensourcing it since people can still be scammed selectively.
I am going to keep playing on Primedice to prove my point.
You have already proven that you are an ignorant person who don't listen to other explanations.

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March 18, 2015, 01:05:10 PM
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Provably fair can't be 100% evidence because nobody knows source code.

it is the only evidence if the sites is rigged or not, copy the server seed and yours before the start of the game and roll, after that you can verify it if the roll is actually match with he seed hash , if it doesnt match, the site is rigged, but if it match, the site is not rigged
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March 18, 2015, 01:13:39 PM
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Primedice is very legit.
I have had winning streaks on PD that lasted over 7 days.  (~1.25 hours average playing per day)
You need to know how to start slow and control the risk.

No, you have nothing to prove it's legit. Maybe if Primedice was open source or something we could prove it right/wrong but we all know that's not happening.

The way he can't prove it is legit is the same way you can't prove it is rigged, just ask yourself if it was truly rigged would it have been going for all this time?

Would there not be multiple warning threads about it telling people to stay away giving proof how they have lost so much and it has to be rigged?

No there has been little to none of that so you need to chill out and take losses as they come as you would sure take the wins when they come, i see this all the time in poker as well, my advice to them is the same as i will give to you!

Don't gamble more than you can afford to lose and have fun Smiley

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March 18, 2015, 01:27:07 PM
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Read up on cryptography.

Read up on probability.

Then come back. This thread is a mess and I feel sorry for some of the degenerative gamblers that don't quite understand.
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March 18, 2015, 01:53:51 PM
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I dont think its "rigged"
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March 18, 2015, 05:06:39 PM
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I am going to keep playing on Primedice to prove my point.

If you continue to play, you will just see more and more unlucky events to happen.
It is not because Primedice is rigged, but it is how probability works. The more bets you play, the more occurrence you should see.

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