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March 18, 2015, 04:57:25 AM
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I had made a tx with blockchain.info wallet and it don't confirm in 10 days (it is not double spend, paying 1 satoshi fee) and I can't use the coins now. What can I do?
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March 18, 2015, 05:13:05 AM
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First, post the txid (transaction id).

1 satoshi is not an appropriate fee. Either go without any fee if your transaction qualifies for exemption, or pay the appropriate fee of 0.0001 per 1KB of tx size (see here for details). In blockchain.info and any decent Bitcoin client, it is done automatically. In your case, it seems that you played with fire by manually editing and lowering the fee in 'Advanced' settings.

What you can do now about the unconfirmed tx is either:

  • Wait for it to expire (don't know about BC.info policy on unconfirmed tx expiry, you should contact them for details), or
  • Have one of the outputs spend the unconfirmed coins with an appropriate fee, i.e. a fee covering at least both transactions according to the rule described above, and then some pools implementing this "cascading" feature like Eligius should confirm it (however, it may be difficult to spend coins from unconfirmed transactions, you will probably need help).

I have no idea about the amount in your unconfirmed transaction, but if it's less than, say, 0.05BTC, it might not even be worth the effort, depending on your own standards (i.e. how you value the time that you will spend resolving it)
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March 18, 2015, 05:27:45 AM
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If possible, try to resend the input that you use in your current unconfirmed transaction / make a double spend of it and don't forget to add the appropriate fee.
It should process your second transaction and ignoring the unconfirmed tx one.
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March 18, 2015, 05:28:14 AM
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Sorry for hearing that... Next time set your fees at higher levels...
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March 18, 2015, 06:34:48 AM
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I had made a tx with blockchain.info wallet and it don't confirm in 10 days (it is not double spend, paying 1 satoshi fee) and I can't use the coins now. What can I do?
1 satoshi fee?
As far as I know, the mini fee is 1000 satoshi.
1 satoshi fee?=no fee at current.
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March 18, 2015, 10:43:21 AM
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I had made a tx with blockchain.info wallet and it don't confirm in 10 days (it is not double spend, paying 1 satoshi fee) and I can't use the coins now. What can I do?
1 satoshi fee?
As far as I know, the mini fee is 1000 satoshi.
1 satoshi fee?=no fee at current.

There isn't actually a thing called "minimum fee" but there are "recommended fee". The least amount you could ever use is 0BTC. FYI:  546 satoshis is dust limit and a transaction shouldn't include less that that and using a fee less than 546 satoshi isn't a good idea than using 0 satoshis. I maybe wrong though.

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March 18, 2015, 10:46:13 AM
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lol 1 satoshi fee. Post the transaction ID here but all you can do is wait and it will either confirm or get sent back to you. It might be worth noting to check the transaction on an alternative block explorer as well because sometimes bc.info can be unreliable or out of synch. You might find it has actually confirmed if you look elsewhere.
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March 18, 2015, 11:49:02 AM
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Are you too greedy with you fee? Tadam...that's what got you stuck. This transaction will probably never get confirmed but should get back to your wallet in couple days.

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March 18, 2015, 12:35:27 PM
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I had made a tx with blockchain.info wallet and it don't confirm in 10 days (it is not double spend, paying 1 satoshi fee) and I can't use the coins now. What can I do?

If there is no confirmation FOR 10 DAYS they should've already cancelled it.. one with  0 trans feee, they cancelled the transsaction after 5 days Cheesy


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March 18, 2015, 02:16:10 PM
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I had made a tx with blockchain.info wallet and it don't confirm in 10 days (it is not double spend, paying 1 satoshi fee) and I can't use the coins now. What can I do?

If there is no confirmation FOR 10 DAYS they should've already cancelled it.. one with  0 trans feee, they cancelled the transsaction after 5 days Cheesy

Its not possible to "cancel" a transaction. Bc.i could stop broadcasting it, but maybe the recipient has an interest in the transaction verifying. The recipient or anyone else could rebroadcast the transaction constantly in order to ensure that the network does not forget about it. This does not ensure that miners put it in a block to confirm it though.

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March 18, 2015, 03:09:01 PM
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10 days and still unconfirmed? Since the transaction is irreversible and your transaction might be dropped if it can't be confirmed after a long period.Now you'd better write down the raw transaction of that transaction and re-broadcast it after it have been dropped on blockchain.info.

Re-broadcast: https://blockchain.info/pushtx

Anyway, provide your txid here, it helps a lot.

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March 18, 2015, 03:17:56 PM
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10 days and still unconfirmed? Since the transaction is irreversible and your transaction might be dropped if it can't be confirmed after a long period.Now you'd better write down the raw transaction of that transaction and re-broadcast it after it have been dropped on blockchain.info.

Re-broadcast: https://blockchain.info/pushtx

Anyway, provide your txid here, it helps a lot.

If you are doing this, use http://www.bitundo.com/. It will give you a GUI which will help you doing the process easily and after signing, you can push it within your wallet because most services reject double spend transaction or post here, someone will help you.

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March 18, 2015, 03:59:25 PM
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I had made a tx with blockchain.info wallet and it don't confirm in 10 days (it is not double spend, paying 1 satoshi fee) and I can't use the coins now. What can I do?
1 satoshi fee?
As far as I know, the mini fee is 1000 satoshi.
1 satoshi fee?=no fee at current.

There isn't actually a thing called "minimum fee" but there are "recommended fee". The least amount you could ever use is 0BTC. FYI:  546 satoshis is dust limit and a transaction shouldn't include less that that and using a fee less than 546 satoshi isn't a good idea than using 0 satoshis. I maybe wrong though.
AFAIK, a transaction must have all outputs above 5460 Satoshi to be considered as a non dust and have nodes relay it. If it's below that, nodes would simply not relay it. There are nodes which relays it but for nodes using Bitcoin Core, they don't. It is generally a bad idea to use 0 fees for anything below 0.1BTC since the priority would be so low that it would take a long time to confirm.
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March 18, 2015, 04:34:46 PM
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You should proably provide the tx id, so we can see how much you sent?

There are times bitcoins can be found for 3hrs at most, but thats the longest I seen. I never seen 10 days though, so not sure unless its a super micro amount?

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March 18, 2015, 04:47:09 PM
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I had made a tx with blockchain.info wallet and it don't confirm in 10 days (it is not double spend, paying 1 satoshi fee) and I can't use the coins now. What can I do?

A some have said a TX id will help us really see whats going on.  I'm guessing fee was too low for transaction to take so long.

If it get's stuck in limbo with this you might need to learn how to double spend with it not moving in 10 days.
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March 18, 2015, 04:58:34 PM
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AFAIK, a transaction must have all outputs above 5460 Satoshi to be considered as a non dust and have nodes relay it.

Wasn't it changed to 546 satoshis after the commit? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/6a4c196dd64da2fd33dc7ae77a8cdd3e4cf0eff1

If it's below that, nodes would simply not relay it. There are nodes which relays it but for nodes using Bitcoin Core, they don't.

"for nodes using Bitcoin Core, they don't" except ones which uses custom script, right?

It is generally a bad idea to use 0 fees for anything below 0.1BTC since the priority would be so low that it would take a long time to confirm.

AFAIK isn't it 0.01BTC which is considered higher priority with zero fee?

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March 18, 2015, 06:27:50 PM
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AFAIK, a transaction must have all outputs above 5460 Satoshi to be considered as a non dust and have nodes relay it.

Wasn't it changed to 546 satoshis after the commit? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/6a4c196dd64da2fd33dc7ae77a8cdd3e4cf0eff1

Yes, dust is currently 546 satoshi[1].


It is generally a bad idea to use 0 fees for anything below 0.1BTC since the priority would be so low that it would take a long time to confirm.

AFAIK isn't it 0.01BTC which is considered higher priority with zero fee?

The amount alone is not the point. The rule of thumb (aka bitcoin day) is one bitcoin confirmed for 1 day (144 confirmations), thus 0.1 bitcoin would need 10 days and 0.01 100 days or ~ 14400 confirmations to have a high enough priority to be send without fees. Another thing to keep in mind is that no matter how high your priority is, there is only 50KByte in each block reserved for transactions without fee. So there is no 100% safe way to send a transaction without fee. Currently however most transactions pay a fee. I suspect this is due to the changes in bitcoin core (0.10.0) that allow a better estimation of the fee.




[1] https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/df5c246ba38c5b5bdd6192b0201d2fe8245451ca/src/primitives/transaction.h#L140

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March 18, 2015, 06:41:10 PM
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I had made a tx with blockchain.info wallet and it don't confirm in 10 days (it is not double spend, paying 1 satoshi fee) and I can't use the coins now. What can I do?
blockchain.info will broadcast your transaction as long as it is not confirmed. if you want to change the fee the easiest way is to wait for about 48 hours till the funds are returned to your wallet, then before bc.i sends it again you can double spend it with fee.

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March 18, 2015, 07:21:13 PM
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I had made a tx with blockchain.info wallet and it don't confirm in 10 days (it is not double spend, paying 1 satoshi fee) and I can't use the coins now. What can I do?
1 satoshi fee?
As far as I know, the mini fee is 1000 satoshi.
1 satoshi fee?=no fee at current.

There isn't actually a thing called "minimum fee" but there are "recommended fee". The least amount you could ever use is 0BTC. FYI:  546 satoshis is dust limit and a transaction shouldn't include less that that and using a fee less than 546 satoshi isn't a good idea than using 0 satoshis. I maybe wrong though.
AFAIK, a transaction must have all outputs above 5460 Satoshi to be considered as a non dust and have nodes relay it. If it's below that, nodes would simply not relay it. There are nodes which relays it but for nodes using Bitcoin Core, they don't. It is generally a bad idea to use 0 fees for anything below 0.1BTC since the priority would be so low that it would take a long time to confirm.
What I don't get is: Why do wallets give you the ability to spend 1 satoshi as a fee or even 0 as a fee? If the transaction is going to get stuck, why not stablish a minimum fee that guarantes this not to happen? coz noobs will always tend to look for free shit, and will always pay no fees and think everything is fine, then shit like OP happens...



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What I don't get is: Why do wallets give you the ability to spend 1 satoshi as a fee or even 0 as a fee? If the transaction is going to get stuck, why not stablish a minimum fee that guarantes this not to happen? coz noobs will always tend to look for free shit, and will always pay no fees and think everything is fine, then shit like OP happens...

Most wallets actually do this. Just dont enable the "advanced" settings unless you know what you are doing.

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